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Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

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JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:14

Quite a disturbing article in this morning’s Observer regarding the impact of the Guides’ ban on trans girls following the Supreme Court ruling.

It reports on the experience of one six year old trans girl named Emily after hearing she could no longer attend Rainbows:

Emily’s parents decided to be honest with their daughter about the situation, and explained that she was no longer able to take part in Rainbows because she was trans. A few hours later Curt said they found her “sobbing in her room” and were “shocked” to find her holding a pair of plastic scissors to her penis.

AIBU to find this a distressing consequence of campaign by anti-trans activists or is it a natural result of allowing such young children to change their gender identity?

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

The organisation is battling a backlash over new rules that will exclude trans girls from the organisation

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/girlguiding-facing-mass-exodus-after-setting-deadline-for-trans-girls-to-quit

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TwistedWonder · 29/03/2026 11:32

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 29/03/2026 11:18

Why is a 6 year old even aware of these things?

Maybe he would decide to transition as an adult.
Maybe he's gay.
Maybe he's just a strange child.

But he shouldn't be aware of this stuff at age 6.

100% this. Why are the parents of a child barely primary school age allowing this and encouraging their son to believe he’s a girl?

ScreamingInfidelities · 29/03/2026 11:32

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Six year old girls don’t have penises.

AmberSpy · 29/03/2026 11:31

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Six year old girls don't have penises to attempt to cut off. HTH.

senua · 29/03/2026 11:31

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

As you say, Scouts is mixed sex. So why doesn't the scissor-wielder go there? What's stopping that solution?

Scripturient · 29/03/2026 11:31

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Wouldn’t dealing with your young child’s obviously severe MH problems by access urgent help be a more sensible and humane solution than leaning into his delusions by taking him to a girls-only organisation?

SpaceRaccoon · 29/03/2026 11:31

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

No, spaces for girls are important.
Unfortunately child abuse is a tragic reality, and the solution to that is not to remove girls' spaces.

TigTails · 29/03/2026 11:30

This didn’t happen so much it went back in time and unhappened things that really did happen! 😂😂😂

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/03/2026 11:30

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Don't be ridiculous. There are specific reasons why girls and women need spaces apart from boys and men - safety, privacy, decency and the chance to speak and take a lead without the males muscling in and taking over. Removing all single-sex organisations would be detrimental to those who have flourished there.

strangerthings2475 · 29/03/2026 11:30

And who put it into his head that he could change his sex/gender or that he was the opposite sex?

Six-year-olds don't happen upon these notions by themselves without adults guiding them to it.

Any adult that plants these seeds should be viewed in the same lens as we view all abusers and manipulators.

Also, it's incredibly manipulative to use this example to rail against the Girl Guides ban. As if such a case should nullify or change the Girl Guides stance, because women and girls rights should be predicated on how well boys and men respond to them.

BollyMolly · 29/03/2026 11:30

Even a six year old knows they aren’t going to be able to cut off their own penis with a pair of plastic scissors. There was no risk, and reporting this childish rubbish is just sensationalist attention seeking. The parents should be ashamed of themselves.

Franpie · 29/03/2026 11:30

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

A far more sensible thing to do would be to sign your male child up to a mixed sex organisation such as scouts in the first place as opposed to a female only one.

RedToothBrush · 29/03/2026 11:29

Vegan Cat.

Either the parents have not even tried to put sharp things out of reach of a six year old with known mental health problems or we have full on Munchausens by proxy in motion

Social services as much as they may be pro trans will however not be looking into Girl Guiding over this.

BellatrixpureBlood · 29/03/2026 11:29

That’s just shitty parenting.

SameNonsenseDifferentDay · 29/03/2026 11:28

The poor boy having this all over the papers - assuming it’s not a work of fiction.

Thelnebriati · 29/03/2026 11:28

The child isn't barred from Girl Guides because he is trans, but because he is a boy. How on earth does a 6 year old end up with such a severe case of self loathing, and why isn't he getting the appropriate mental health support?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/03/2026 11:28

ProudPearl · 29/03/2026 11:19

I think perhaps the parents should have been very clear with their little boy that he's a boy, right from the very start. If my child hated a body part that much at such a young age I'd be seeking psychiatric help because there's a clear mental health issue here. Poor kid has been spectacularly failed by the adults in his life.

Scouts have, for many years now, accepted both sexes. Perhaps it would be a better fit for this child?

Spot on.

slantingsunbeams · 29/03/2026 11:27

I think the parents who try to reinforce their children's identities or somehow keep them safer by deliberately signing them up for a girls only activity are making a huge mistake. Beavers and cubs are available and would have made their child much less vulnerable to both criticism and this type of rule change, even if they had joined those while being described as a girl.

JacquesHarlow · 29/03/2026 11:27

Unreal that the Girlguiding organisation are being used as a lightening rod by some for what appears to be a very particular issue - a family who need to focus on what's going on closer to home.

Utilitarianism is a real thing when it comes to associations. The needs of 300,000 girls cannot be overlooked simply because one young person is regrettably going through such a turbulent period that they are doing what is described.

And this, even more regrettably, is how it needs to be looked at. That this is an incident of a young person with serious troubles, who needs to be helped directly as much as possible, who needs to be loved and supported away from politicised debates.

Turning this young person into some sort of story or totem to show that Girlguiding were misguided in their decision, is just so wrong.

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

senua · 29/03/2026 11:23

Quite a disturbing article in this morning’s Observer regarding the impact of the Guides’ ban on trans girls following the Supreme Court ruling.
Ah, yes. Because it's all about the transgirls, isn't it? Nobody else matters.Hmm

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

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murasaki · 29/03/2026 11:26

Of all the things that never happened, this didn't happen the most.

damelza · 29/03/2026 11:25

The child should be taken into care, and the parents arrested for child abuse.

LifeIsShambolic · 29/03/2026 11:24

ProudPearl · 29/03/2026 11:19

I think perhaps the parents should have been very clear with their little boy that he's a boy, right from the very start. If my child hated a body part that much at such a young age I'd be seeking psychiatric help because there's a clear mental health issue here. Poor kid has been spectacularly failed by the adults in his life.

Scouts have, for many years now, accepted both sexes. Perhaps it would be a better fit for this child?

Yes, but taking him to Scouts wouldn't create quite so much drama would it! Heaven forbidden they just got on with life without making a scene by going to Brownies 🙄

SpaceRaccoon · 29/03/2026 11:24

Poor little boy. He's a victim of terrible, abusive parenting.

DramaAndBullshit · 29/03/2026 11:23

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 29/03/2026 11:18

Why is a 6 year old even aware of these things?

Maybe he would decide to transition as an adult.
Maybe he's gay.
Maybe he's just a strange child.

But he shouldn't be aware of this stuff at age 6.

Exactly this. What the hell has this child be exposed to and what gender bullshit have this child’s parents brainwashed their SON with. This needs a social services and safeguarding investigation, but not for the reason the TRAs think.

Twitchie · 29/03/2026 11:23

I wonder how the child’s parents broke the news to them about Rainbows. Was it:

’We’re not going to be coming back in September, how about Scouts?’

or was it

‘Evil society hates trans girls like you and you’re not allowed to come back because you have a penis’

Because if this is genuine, a 6yo (in year 1/2) trying to mutilate your own genitalia off is not a normal response to not going back to a club and something is seriously wrong here. How would a child even make that connection (that their penis is the problem)?

How can anyone try and blame the ‘anti-trans’ (feminists) for this? I don’t feel particularly strongly about transgender children in Rainbows/Brownies either way, but seriously, no.

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