Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

I do agree that it’s abusive parenting. There are plenty of times things happen where the parents have to present it in an age appropriate way to protect their children. From death of loved ones to current events as well as issues with friendship groups. If a group changed the rules which meant my child could no longer attend, the last thing I would do is make it feel like it’s the child’s fault!

He would know nothing about this if he hadn't been indoctrinated by adults. They're abusing him to the extent he wants to cut off his own penis

As for respecting his wishes, he's 6. Six year olds think they're puppies, or princesses, or SpongeBob. They would eat ice cream all day, live in a den under their bed, bring worms in from the garden and cross roads without looking. I suspect you've never been a parent.

Aye right. I give this as much credence as the rest of the article. And, if by some stretch, its true, they wont have left because they understand the import of gender politics or biology, it will be because the child, who they have been told is a girl and at their age have no reason to doubt, isn't allowed to come back. And at that age they should not be put in that position.
But its still bollocks.

Yep - two threads by OP both rage bait

Someone bored on a Sunday

Are you for real? Guides and Brownies are for girls, not for confused sons of mentally-abusive parents.

You are blaming "anti-trans activists", (aka sex realists) when you should be looking at the parents for brainwashing their child, and Girl Guiding for enabling this.

No. Girls need space to just be girls. Plenty of studies have shown this is beneficial in many ways. If you want a mixed space for your child, you can choose the Scouts.

I’m meh about trans girls in Guides. From what I’ve read the tiny number of troops that actually have trans girls have full support from the other girls in the group. This does seem like culture wars pressure has been put on the organisation rather than any actual threat to girls that has come about. There have been no studies that show the girl only spaces are negatively impacted by trans girls. That said, I can understand with the ongoing narrative about how “dangerous” trans girls are, I can understand why parents who have no first hand experience are concerned about it.

This story is probably untrue, or massively exaggerated. Having never had a trans child, I have no idea whether a six year old would understand their trans feelings without parental input, or how I would deal with it. I suspect counselling would be my first port of call, but has anyone ever tried accessing mental health services for children? Even privately it can be difficult to come by.

My problem with this is having a blanket policy for every situation ends up impacting some kids. I much prefer local troops being able to make their own decisions. My friend had two severely disabled children, a boy and a girl, very close in age. They live quite rurally and there was no option for scouts in their area so they approached the local brownie pack to see if both of them could join. They allowed it and the young lad was able to meet other kids and join in with his sister, he absolutely devoured the badges. It gave him a focus and some socialisation that is really difficult to find for disabled kids. When he sadly died, the brownies all came to his funeral and sang taps at the end. It was so moving. If, individually a local pack is happy to welcome a trans girl, and nobody has an issue with it, why should they be forced to refuse?

I'm sorry but what you have written is ridiculous, what 6 year old girl has one to cut-off in the first place?

Well it's bullshit. Six year old children are not politically aware and do not organise boycotts. Do you usually swallow and regurgitate everything you read in the papers?

Girls don't have penises. Boys do.

Well from the ages for 4-16 I wished to identify as the owner of a pony.

I thought it was only right that my parents respected my wishes and bought me a pony.

Am glad you agree the fact I never got a pony was a serious breach of my human rights, and not sensible parenting from people who knew we couldn't keep a pony in a small back garden.

No. It’s people like you lying to children that how they identify is more important than their sex that are being cruel. Please stop.

100% this. ^

Again with the adultification of children.

If this happened at all, it is the result of parents validating an untruth and their poor DC being led to believe that he can change sex. Allowing children to believe that they were born in the wrong body is unspeakably cruel.

And I suspect the parents claimed he tried to cut those off too...

The child is 6. He should have absolutely no concept of gender identity ideology.

My DS has a female friend who when they were little wanted all her hair cut off as it got in her way when playing. All her good friends were boys and she was one of the few little girls in primary school who chose to wear trousers and shorts as opposed to school skirts and summer dresses. She joined scouts with all her male friends. She has a name that could be for either gender, think Sam (not real name) and to a passerby could probably have been mistaken for a boy when she was 6.

But she was a girl, her friends knew she was a girl, she knew she was a girl, her parents never pretended she wasn’t a girl.

She is now a teenager with beautiful long blonde hair, shopping in Sephora most weekends, and wearing miniskirts when she goes to parties.

Just let children be children for fucks sake.

I think feeding time has gone on long enough.

Let me correct you there. 6 year old GIRLS dont have a penis to cut off.
If parents didnt keep deluding the 6 year old boy that he was a girl, he wouldnt be in this position.
HTH.

I guess I do. I have told them a complete strange man breaks into their house and leaves presents at Christmas.

Everyone lies to children. We don’t always tell them the truth. We will tell them a version of the truth. Every parent varies on how much they lie to their kids. Some parents refuse to do Santa. Some won’t talk about how babies are made and make up something else.

I don’t think this argue stands

Crikey. How on earth does a 6 year old get to be so mentally unwell? There is no way he understands the whole gender woo thing, so this is a parental failure.

Why on EARTH should The Brownies become mixed sex when the Scouts is mixed sex? Why can this child not just go the The Scouts? Are you going to answer this question? And can you also answer the question 'how can a girl cut off her penis? When a girl doesn't have a penis..!'

I'm not sure I'd like to be writing the scout risk assessment for a night where they use whittling knives, craft with scissors or use an axe for a child with a history of trying to hack of their penis TBF...

They can all go off to the Woodcraft Folk, who I gather are full on gender ideologists.

Let's consider what happens to a child who is born as one sex but who is led to believe that they can magically be accepted as the other sex just by saying they are. If their parents and school facilitate it, the child adopts the stereotypical clothing and hairstyles of the opposite sex and changes name. The child may pass as the opposite sex at this point, if the family are able to prevent any other child seeing the child in a state of undress, but what happens when puberty hits? The child's body doesn't know the child is now identifying as the other sex. Puberty will change the body to the characteristic adult form for the child's biological sex. If female, menstruation will start, breasts will develop,hips will widen. If male, the voice will break and facial hair will appear. And so on. No hiding the natal sex at that point.

Far, far better to get the help the child and the whole family needs at the first sign of gender distress. Get them all to realise that a fondness for pink and sparkly clothing is just a fondness for pink and sparkly clothing, not a sign that a child has somehow been born with a girl brain but a boy's body. What would that even mean? The brain is a key part of the body. We can have all sorts of personalities but there are only two sexes, fixed at conception, and they can't change.

I think its absolutely wrong to encourage delusional beliefs in children and lie to them.
You cant hide from reality forever and male children need to learn to respect female people's boundaries and need for spaces away from males.

People must stop lying to young children that they can be the opposite sex. It’s child cruelty.