Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

I think we should move towards a situation where people like you are made to resit Biology at school. Be made to spend a year working in rape crisis centres, another year coaching a girls gymnastics team and then a boys one to see the difference, and just generally not be allowed to be near children until you can see the damage people like you cause.

This sounds like a hundred other fictional "Trans" stories. I do not beleive it. If this story was true, I'd have huge sympathy for this child, for having such dysfunctional, self absorbed parents, who would inflict such misery their 6 year old son.

How on earth at 6 does a child state they are born into the wrong body? I don’t know whether it is the strong gender stereotypes that have re-emerged over the last decade or a narcissistic desire to be special.

Girls don’t have penises. I can’t believe anyone could type a sentence such as yours without having to do some serious brain cartwheels to get there. Unless of course, you just fancied a bun fight on a quiet Sunday morning …

I feel for the child (if it's true). Choosing Scouts from the beginning would have helped avoid some of these issues. Also, they clearly didn't tell him in an appropriate way.

My daughter is in Rainbows specifically because it’s a girls-only space. Although she gets on well with boys at school, it’s obvious how they dominate in shared environments. I wanted her to have a space where that isn’t the case. I personally don't want them to go mixed sex like the Scouts.

I think perhaps the parents should have been very clear with their little boy that he's a boy, right from the very start.

This.

Why can’t the trans girl join scouts? Brownies has been all girls for over 110 years, why should that change?

Guiding decided to stay a single sex organisation for very good reasons. Some UK girls are only able to attend because it's just girls. Some countries only allow girlguiding to exist because it's a single sex organisation. Making it mixed sex would have a massive impact on girls across the world.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Are you nuts?

Or is this an attempt to demonstrate the ridiculous position one arrives at when one falls for this nonsense?

Ever since activists made it clear that biological reality and anything that women and society do to keep men out of spaces that are required for our safety, privacy and dignity are transphobic, I think you'll find that a lot of people have lost any appetite they once had to oppose so-called "transphobia".

If it would be acceptable to make all spaces mixed gender, then this child (and friend group) would go to a mixed-gender group. If a mixed gender group is acceptable, then why not just...go to a mixed gender group?

Why the need to make sure no girl can have a single sex group?

Nope. Believing in biological reality and refusing to pander to a misogynistic homophobic ideology isn’t transphobia

And the day we all agree with Dave the hypnotherapist is the day to give up

This is all really odd to me and seems performative on the part of all the parents fighting for their kids to join the Guide association. The Scout association is mixed sex so why wouldn't you just send them there?

The article headline states:

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for trans girls to quit

I highly fucking doubt it.

This. I think the OP and their gender word salad is part of the reason we have a six year old boy trying to cut off his penis with plastic scissors. Because adults and their weird agendas lie a lot.

No, a more sensible thing to do would be not to fuck with your little boy’s head and let him think he’s a girl.

interestingly, I’ve read this exact same story before - but about another little boy. I suggest it’s a common little story amongst disturbed parents. There’s no proof that’s what the child was doing at all.

Good morning OP, please take some time to look at this very old but extremely informative thread. It will explain these things to you so that you gain a proper understanding of why your suggestion is not okay:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

This.

Absolutely not. I’m not sharing a changing room or restroom with a biological man and nor are my girls.

You're too late, the FWS Supreme Court judgement already happened. As for making all spaces "mixed gender", i.e. allowing men absolutely everywhere, aye right.

You're just being deliberately provocative, I'm out.

This indoctrination of young children needs to stop.
No is a complete sentence. You are not a girl
You can play with dolls if you wish. Wear girls clothes at home. But you are a boy.
When you are 18 and old enough to make your own decisions. You can transition. If you havent grown out of wanting to be a girl

Such ridiculously transparent lies.

It wouldn’t fool a cat.

OK, we don't all tell the truth all the time. This is undeniable. However, telling children stories about the Tooth Fairy and Father Christmas is a very different thing from lying to them about something as fundamental as changing sex. At an age when many children still believe in magic, if you say to a young child that doctors will help you when you're older to look like how you feel in your head, they will believe you. They will have no conception of what the medical treatment will involve or what effect the very common side effects would have on their lives. How can a six-year-old make an informed decision to start on a path that may mean losing fertility and never having an orgasm? How do you even start to explain any of that? It's not age appropriate to even talk about it, and that's a mighty big clue that getting informed consent for this badly-evidenced medical intervention is impossible.

Six year old girls don’t have a penis.

Six year old boys do.

Telling 6 years old they’re trapped in the wrong body , and forcing everyone to participate in the delusion, is what causes this kind of distress when reality kicks in.

Accepting that boy of who he is and what he is , in reality and biologically , would’ve prevented this. Enrol him in Scouts. Let him explore his interests and wear what he wants and what not , because being the “wrong type “ of boy , doesn’t mean he is a girl. The parents created this absolute mindfuck.

Great thread. Showcasing how hyperbolic transactivism comes up against the reality of responsible, child centred parenting from Mumsnetters, so many of who are actual parents.

For anyone interested in what these dangerous parents are doing to their 6 year old, this is written by a clinical psychologist who details the harms adults do by lying to young children about what sex they really are:

https://www.transgendertrend.com/childhood-social-transition/