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Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

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JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:14

Quite a disturbing article in this morning’s Observer regarding the impact of the Guides’ ban on trans girls following the Supreme Court ruling.

It reports on the experience of one six year old trans girl named Emily after hearing she could no longer attend Rainbows:

Emily’s parents decided to be honest with their daughter about the situation, and explained that she was no longer able to take part in Rainbows because she was trans. A few hours later Curt said they found her “sobbing in her room” and were “shocked” to find her holding a pair of plastic scissors to her penis.

AIBU to find this a distressing consequence of campaign by anti-trans activists or is it a natural result of allowing such young children to change their gender identity?

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

The organisation is battling a backlash over new rules that will exclude trans girls from the organisation

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/girlguiding-facing-mass-exodus-after-setting-deadline-for-trans-girls-to-quit

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DramaAndBullshit · 29/03/2026 12:07

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Girls don’t have a penis. You seem confused about basic biology. No human can change sex, you are born male or female (aside from those with some rare intersex conditions) and no surgery, meds or pronoun gymnastics can change that.

A boy who grows his hair and wears pink dresses is still a boy.

Imbusytodaysorry · 29/03/2026 12:07

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 29/03/2026 11:18

Why is a 6 year old even aware of these things?

Maybe he would decide to transition as an adult.
Maybe he's gay.
Maybe he's just a strange child.

But he shouldn't be aware of this stuff at age 6.

My thoughts exactly . Why are they aware ?
6 is a baby . Yes allow them to wear what they like and be a child .
This has gone too far . This isn’t the supreme courts “fault “ this is whoever allowed this child into be a girl when only 6 small years earlier they were / are a he.
Parents ate not protecting their kids. Simple

TheKhakiQuail · 29/03/2026 12:06

AnnaMagnani · 29/03/2026 11:34

This is just unbelievably bad parenting.

The parents apparently felt they 'had to be honest' and instead of saying 'let's try Badgers next time!' told a confused 6 yr old he couldn't go to Rainbows as he was trans.

I'm probably too honest with my kids, but if there was a topic that was likely to cause this level of distress, and the child is so very young, I would also just steer them to a different group or hobby. Lots of kids can't afford the hobbies they'd like to do, or they're not available or on at an inconvenient time, or they don't get selected on skill-level so they miss out.

Clefable · 29/03/2026 12:06

As to why GG aren’t mixed sex, the organisation’s members have been against changing this every time they have been polled. Many leaders would leave if this was changed, myself included, because I don’t want volunteer with boys and young men; I want to volunteer with girls and young women as that’s where my passion lies.

There was quite a vocal (and what I expect is a significant) minority of leaders claiming they would leave in the wake of the trans ban, but already many of them are dialling that back on the various GG social media groups, saying they don’t want to let current members down, etc., so even those principals haven’t really held up to scrutiny! I suspect on the other side of the coin, many leaders would definitely quit if the organisation became mixed, as we all chose GG for a reason. Most of us just stay quiet as it’s not a safe space to enter into debate on, but I know through some reading between the lines of conversations that the other leaders in my district are of a similar frame of mind as me.

Scouts faced falling membership and a lack of volunteers (surprise surprise, women tend to take up a huge amount of the volunteering slack in our communities). Girlguiding has maintained a strong membership, my own units have waiting lists I can’t even get through. I could open two new units in our very small town and still not be able to accommodate the girls who want to join. That shows to me there is a very strong appetite and desire from girls and parents for a single-sex organisation.

Ved · 29/03/2026 12:06

KillTheTurkey · 29/03/2026 11:48

Poor child has parents with Munchausen’s by-proxy. Unfortunately, this is becoming more common; batshit people have kids and they become an extension of their batshit views and solipsistic approach to life.

Utterly sick of this shit.

I agree with this. Also, it's very interesting that when a child wants to change gender, it's almost always a boy wanting to become a girl... I do wonder why.............. ??? I have only known one occasion (in real life) where a girl wanted to become a boy, and that is a friend of my DD who started living as a boy at around 15-16.

15 years later, now living as a man. Would never know they were ever a girl. They are so quiet and shy and never cause a fuss.

I do know more Male to Female transfolk. In general there does seem to be a LOT more of them.

This case though... it's utterly horrific that a child so young is doing this. I feel for the child, and as many people have said, I think he needs taking into care.

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GenieGenealogy · 29/03/2026 12:06

Aye right.

The "disturbing" part of this is that this six year old boy has been gaslit by his parents into thinking he can be a girl. That is all shades of irresponsible parenting right there, before you even get to the parents going to the press about this "girl" and "her penis".

Using your child as a prop for your own political beliefs and agenda is just so wrong. As others have clearly said there are a million ways they could have handled this better so as not to unnecessarily distress their son, and chose not to.

Urgh.

Limpet1 · 29/03/2026 12:06

Shitstix · 29/03/2026 12:03

"Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?"

This is like Ricky Gervais's comedy routine.

Little girls dont have a penis. How has society got so fucking crazy.

If that’s the OP’s own personal quote she is very simply part of the problem.

Girls don’t have penises and aren’t thems.

chattyness · 29/03/2026 12:06

This caused by the parents not being honest with the boy from the very start . At that age you think you can be anything you dream of, but affirming that as actual fact is stupid & dangerous. Children should always be told that it is only pretending and that they can't actually change sex or be a cat or a superhero etc
If they want to be trans when they reach 18 they are free to go ahead but for crying out loud let them be little & keep creepy perverts from putting ideas into their heads!

TwistedWonder · 29/03/2026 12:05

Marieb19 · 29/03/2026 12:01

This sounds like a hundred other fictional "Trans" stories. I do not beleive it. If this story was true, I'd have huge sympathy for this child, for having such dysfunctional, self absorbed parents, who would inflict such misery their 6 year old son.

i agree. It’s another made up story of an imaginary child whose first word was ‘girl’ designed to pull on the heartstrings and guilt trip women and girls to #bekind and pander to the patriarchy

SnowflakeSmasher86 · 29/03/2026 12:05

MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/03/2026 11:56

Great thread. Showcasing how hyperbolic transactivism comes up against the reality of responsible, child centred parenting from Mumsnetters, so many of who are actual parents.

For anyone interested in what these dangerous parents are doing to their 6 year old, this is written by a clinical psychologist who details the harms adults do by lying to young children about what sex they really are:

https://www.transgendertrend.com/childhood-social-transition/

This is exactly how things were heading for most sensible parents of young kids up until about 10 years ago! Let toys be toys etc

it’s so depressing that we’ve gone backwards so far.

WappityWabbit · 29/03/2026 12:05

There’s no such thing as a 6yr old Trans child.

It’s another form of sexual abuse and those parents need prosecuting and the child needs to be taken into care and hopefully adopted by decent parents who will love and nurture him.

Spidey66 · 29/03/2026 12:05

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 29/03/2026 11:18

Why is a 6 year old even aware of these things?

Maybe he would decide to transition as an adult.
Maybe he's gay.
Maybe he's just a strange child.

But he shouldn't be aware of this stuff at age 6.

My opinion exactly on why children should not be labelled as 'trans'.

DarmokAndJaladAtTenagra · 29/03/2026 12:04

ainsleysanob · 29/03/2026 12:01

I think we should move towards a situation where people like you are made to resit Biology at school. Be made to spend a year working in rape crisis centres, another year coaching a girls gymnastics team and then a boys one to see the difference, and just generally not be allowed to be near children until you can see the damage people like you cause.

Oh now this is a brilliant idea.

Sgreenpy · 29/03/2026 12:04

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

A six year old girl doesnt have a penis to cut off. A six year old child with a penis is a boy.

sharkstale · 29/03/2026 12:04

6 years old? Maybe the parents should have "been honest" a lot sooner and stamped out any delusions that supported him thinking he's a girl in the first place.

Shitstix · 29/03/2026 12:03

"Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?"

This is like Ricky Gervais's comedy routine.

Little girls dont have a penis. How has society got so fucking crazy.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 29/03/2026 12:02

ainsleysanob · 29/03/2026 12:01

I think we should move towards a situation where people like you are made to resit Biology at school. Be made to spend a year working in rape crisis centres, another year coaching a girls gymnastics team and then a boys one to see the difference, and just generally not be allowed to be near children until you can see the damage people like you cause.

Well said!

TeflonBoot · 29/03/2026 12:02

This story is absolute bullshit.

Lavender14 · 29/03/2026 12:02

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:51

Should we move towards a situation like the Greens and Zack Polanski are advocating where trans women are legally recognised as women, and have access to all ‘female’ spaces?

Alternatively, all spaces could simply be made mixed gender.

This would blunt the impact of transphobia.

But we need truly female only spaces to protect vulnerable women and girls op.

I think the difficulty here is that you've two essentially minority groups both of which have their own distinct vulnerabilities and both of whom need safe spaces and protection. But those needs are in contradiction because of the nature of those vulnerabilities. Its not an easy solution by any means but the solution cannot be removing women and girls access to female only safe spaces.

lcakethereforeIam · 29/03/2026 12:02

Nrtft but he's being totally unreasonable. He should wait until the Doctors say he's old enough to have his penis cut off.

Although, why get upset about him trying to do it himself at six though? It's what lies in the future for this child if his trans allies have their way. It's pointless being squeamish about it. Blockers, wrong sex hormones then surgery. Obviously the blockers will have left him with a micro-penis. There might not be enough... material to skin and invert to make a deep enough hole. This will entail using part of his intestine to make up the lack. If he's lucky he'll only require one or two revisions and won't mind being rendered sterile, anorgasmic or incontinent. Having to dilate every day to keep the hole open is only painful, I believe, for a little while. I hope his friends from Rainbows are still around. They may have got on with the business of growing up in healthy bodies, having relationships, families, the normal stuff.

Limpet1 · 29/03/2026 12:02

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

have you heard the level of brainwashing.

a 6 year old GIRL cutting off their penis!! Madness

MacchiatoMavis · 29/03/2026 12:02

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Can anybody make sense of this for me please? Never read such absolute garbage in all my years.

Squirrelsnut · 29/03/2026 12:01

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Six year old boys, surely? Girls don't have penises.

Foreverautumnagain · 29/03/2026 12:01

Having seen a very young child being adamant they are the opposite sex I sympathise fully with this family. They have a terrible situation to deal with every single day and it doesn't help at all having judgemental ignoramuses suggesting they are bad parents. The majority of the world is already against them, why make it harder by levelling uneducated criticism at them when they are trying to do their best for their child?

The child I knew was stating they were the opposite sex from as soon as they were able to speak. They are now late teens and it's quite clear it wasn't a fad or a protest of some sort. They have had a terrible time through no fault of their own. Their parents and wider family have been extremely strong and faced the opposition, the backlash and immense pressure from every quarter with dignity and love for their child.

Traxanos · 29/03/2026 12:01

It’s a parenting issue. When you have a boy aged 6 why would you encourage them to believe they’re a girl?

Surely this is emotional and psychological abuse on a huge scale ?

The mind boggles !

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