Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

"Hard cases make bad law."

Maybe worth reintroducing that phrase into the public consciousness ?

One is in their early teens and, having already been bullied out of school ("Urgh! You're trans!"), is now having to leave Guides, which had become a bit of a haven for them
is it a ‘haven’ for him because of the #nodebate and total capitulation that’s demanded of the females that attend to his delusion?

This is on the parents. A six year old should have no idea what trans even is. He shouldn't be aware of the difference between boys, girls or a fucking alien. This is a classic case of parents pushing their fucked up agendas onto children. Child should be taken into care and raised by someone with a modicum of common sense.

I read that article too. I was a bit surprised that Zoe Williams didn’t point out that Scouts has been mixed for some years. It seemed rather perverse that Girl Guides should change their entire ethos and name to benefit a limited number of trans children when well established mixed sex group already existed.

Following on from the audacity to blame anyone else. I was shocked at the audacity of an article written entirely about a boy using the words "daughter" instead of "son" and "she" instead of "he" saying the parents were honest with their child about the reason he couldn't attend a girls' club. Honesty didn't get within a mile of the parents or the article.

Regarding the ZW article, it is sheer idiocy to suggest that whatever deep-seated psychological issues (including brainwashing) may have led a six-year-old boy to consider cutting off his penis (let's just assume for the moment that this is true) could be resolved simply by allowing him to attend a girls' youth group. Or indeed by allowing him to wear a skirt to school, or use the girls' toilets, or change his name, etc., etc.

Even if the entire world bends around a trans person's need for affirmation and "inclusion", and they go through the full medical and surgical process including bottom surgery, they are still not the opposite sex to the one they started as.

There have been many similar reported stories, for years. All of them end with the parent discovering child+scissors at just the crucial moment that enables them to discern imminent intentional castration and swiftly thwart it. Nobody actually gets injured and it is a one off event requiring no intervention other than everyone in the world affirming trans ideology.

Possibly an approximation of this scenario did play out with one child, once upon a time. But all the other accounts since? No. It's a powerful narrative and that's why it keeps being reused.

An excellent post.

For too long we've collectively failed to safeguard children from all this. IF this is true (a big IF) then those parents and the other trusted adults involved, need to be held accountable for failing to protect this little boy.

Yes, I know a couple of children like this, and I wouldn't want to be in their parents' shoes given the hostile attitudes expressed upthread.

One is in their early teens and, having already been bullied out of school ("Urgh! You're trans!"), is now having to leave Guides, which had become a bit of a haven for them. They are very scared that they might get bullied again if they went to Scouts (they used to go to Cubs but found it a bit rough), although I have tried to reassure their mum that it's a very inclusive troop.

No, it wouldn't. Zoe Williams is a dimwit numpty who can't think why some girls may benefit from activities away from boys.
Guiding was founded for girls alone. It's one of few social groups that are single sex.

As for the "scissors", on the extraordinarily unlikely chance this is actually true, that's a parenting fail. Those parents deliberately presented the information in a way to distress their 6 year old. Anyone with half a brain would present it sensitively in a way their child could understand.

This reeks of Munchausen by Proxy. No 6 year old identifies as the opposite sex. It's dressing up and make believe playing.

6 year olds don't stage boycotts either. The whole thing is hysterical baloney.

I don’t believe this story for a second.

It’s all very convenient timing for Zoe’s article.
Hmm…some might say it’s complete bullshit.

@JonesTownYour post makes no sense, a 6 year old girl cannot physically cut off their penis because a girl doesn’t have a penis. We are talking about a 6 year old boy here who has shitty parents.

This has nothing to do with Rainbows or being trans. This 6 year old child has severe mental health problems and should be given treatment accordingly.

Because as the saying goes, it's like a vegan cat...

6 year old girls don't have penises

This is child abuse. Why on earth are his parents telling a six year old boy he is a girl?!
My middle child is 5 and going through the phase of wanting to know why he has a penis and his sister doesn't. "Because boys have a penis and girls don't". It's as easy as that!
DS5 also happens to love unicorns and will occasionally join in with his sister to dress up as fairies, that doesn't suddenly change his biology.

It's absolute unhinged insanity!!

6 year old GIRLS do not have a Penis to cut off. Grow up, you are part of the problem not the solution.

Six year olds girls don’t have penises.

Why are the parents even trying to send their son to Rainbows? He should be at Beavers or Cubs (not sure of the ages).

No six year old boy is a girl. And actually girls deserve spaces free from boys.

His parents have created this situation.

Perhaps this kind of tale is meant to make us think ‘Oh no! We are being really unfair and cruel to ‘trans children’ and should reverse this awful discrimination against them forthwith’ ???

It doesn’t.

It makes me ask what kind of fucked up society do we live in where a SIX YEAR OLD is made to feel they are ‘born in the wrong body’, the adults around them actively reinforce this gender dysphoria and indulge the idea that their little boy is a girl …and then have the actual fucking audacity to act as if their child wanting to cut off his penis is somehow anyone’s fault but their own?!

Poor, poor child. He should never have been put in this position by the adults around him.

I am aware of a child threatening to do this at a similar age but quite some years ago. This was reported by an affirming parent whom I've known for some time
I think it is very possible that a gender distressed child might threaten this, but of course, that's when parents should be seeking mental health support and helpjng the child accept their body, instead of loudly telling everyone, including the media. All that this does is affirm to a very young child that threatening to mutilating their genitals is a reasonable reaction to being told no.

What would have been "more sensible" is if the parents hadn't forced their deluded nonsense onto their son. No 6 year old ever would have declared themselves to be trans if the idiot parents hadn't have put the thought into the child's head.

I think the adults concerned have a lot to answer for here. Why are 6 year olds being made aware of transgender issues? How at 6 can you make decisions about your life that will affect you forever? This child should not have been allowed to join Rainbows in the first place and again I blame the adults for that. Parents should always be clear from the start their children can talk to them about ANYTHING, but in my opinion adults should not be facilitating transition in children so young.

I havn't read the article either but it does not sound like the child really tried to do anything, they were holding a plastic pair of scissors so I am guessing (hoping) the child was not injured