Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

Unbelievable

No matter how tragic things are for one male, it doesn't mean women and girls should have to give up their rights, spaces, or identity.

(Or lie about reality - which is where things have gone wrong for this little boy.)

So many seem to think a male trumps all female needs.

<hands op even bigger rage baiting spoon to stir with>

If this did actually happen, it’s interesting that the parents sound like the sort that would happily endorse cross-sex hormones and surgery for their child but won’t risk him using metal scissors.

This.
They should never have told him he could be a girl in the first place. If he liked dresses then fine, buy him dresses. If he liked going on camps and doing outdoor stuff, then join Beavers. But there was no need to tell him he could be a girl and joins a club for girls. This is 100% on the parents. Hopefully they’ll get some parenting support and do a better job of the next stage of his life.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

No six year old girl has a penis.

Girl Guiding was for girls. Making it mixed sex wouldn’t make it better for girls.

Making anything generally worse for girls in order not to upset disturbed males is the problem. Sort out the disturbed males another way and leave girls alone.

What girl?

OK, well submit your complaint to IPSO and see what they say 🤷‍♀️

I totally can see this and I do think it's hard to parents to navigate. But in this instance there was no reason for the parents to tell the child they were removed from a group due to being trans. That was unnecessarily cruel on the parents part and they really should have foreseen the impact on the child of giving too much upsetting information too early.

That poor wee boy.

Why can't Emily just join Beavers? They take boys and girls from the age of 6.

Yeah Ricky Gervais came to my mind too

One of his punchlines was literally “HER penis!”

says a lot when I joke punchline becomes reality

No, the boycott has been decided by those girls' parents.

Erm no, I think they just enjoyed the activities and got on with the other kids 🙄

This. The child is 6. Why not just send them to badgers/cubs which is mixed in the first place.

I agree a child of this age shouldn't know about trams issues, but I think you're stretching a point to say they shouldn't know the difference between boys and girls at an age-appropriate level.

I’m not implying anything. I’m flat out calling them god damn liars.

The answer to this is to educate boys and men to be inclusive, not to insist that society gives up every single sex space that it has up (for good reason) and deny women the ability to have safety, dignity and privacy in sport, health care and vulnerable situations.

Wow -
this child’s life is a safeguarding issue
and should be addressed within that context

guiding is a single sex space
if a child wishes to be in a mixed sex space there is scouting, sea cadets etc etc

placing a young boy in a female sex space is clearly going to lead to a disturbed sense of self -

appalling situation
I point the finger at the parents, social media, stonewall and the trans ideology that has hijacked childhood and all the complexities of self discovery - complexities that don’t include being born into the wrong body, but include dysphoria, self esteem, neurodivergence’s etc etc

this case is a safeguarding issue

What the hell have the parents indoctrinated him with
he needs removing from their ‘care’

I'm inclined to agree with you, but if we can suspend our disbelief for a moment and pretend it might have happened, it's entirely the fault of his parents and every adult who went along with the ridiculous fantasy that he can be a girl.

They should have made it clear to him that a girl is not just a boy without a penis. Even without it he would still be a boy and therefore ineligible to join the Rainbows.

If they're honest with him that absolutely no surgery, medication or magic wand will turn him into a girl, he might, with the love and kindness of decent parents, accept himself as the little boy he really is.

Are you implying that the Observer is lying, or deliberately disseminating false information?

I guess you could make a complaint to IPSO in that case, although it's worth noting that as far as I know the Guardian/ Observer has never had a complaint upheld against it unlike the Mail for example

I honestly believe there will (and should!) be a huge scandal and Inquiry in years to come about the complete disregard of safeguarding and the blatant state/NHS/organisation-sanctioned physical, mental and emotional abuse of children society has stood by and allowed in their ideological trance.

A very young child wants to cut off his penis because he had been wrongly told by the grown ups he is a girl. I mean…for fuck sake, wake up people!

I hope Zoe Williams is about to write useless, poorly researched articles about this when the shit hits the fan. 🔥

To those questioning how a 6 year old is aware of such stuff - it does happen. My nephew in law knew he was trans without knowing what it was, had no name for it and it was before smartphones, tablets and social media - he told his mum aged 3 he was a boy, wanted to wear boys clothes, hated dresses and female school uniform and most of all his name, very feminine name. This is 10+ years before any of the current trend started. He went by a different name by early teens and wore boys school uniform, camhs counselling from 16 then properly transitioned at 18. Happily through all surgeries and in long term relationship. I think being truly trans at a young age is rare but having seen it with my own eyes I know it was not encouraged at all yet still…