Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

Girl Guiding use an exemption for Associations with a membership over 25 members to restrict membership to a single sex, as detailed in the EQA2010. This forms the basis of their membership, Charitable aims etc. They don't have to be single sex, they could go through the process of changing the organisation to a mixed sex one but they don't want to lose their USP. And as mentioned by pp's, there's already the Scouts. Where there is already boys and girls.

The SC clarified that, despite intense lobbying by activists, single sex means single sex. And this isn't new, the EQA2010 has been in place since, well, 2010.

If a boy of 6 is so distressed by his body that he attempts to remove his punishment, then he needs intensive mental help support and therapy. Not to be lied to by his parents and other adults that he is not a boy and should be allowed to invade women and girls single sex spaces and services.

(And I wouldn't be describing any suggestion made by Zoe as 'sensible'. And it's mixed sex, not mixed gender).

This poor boy is going to grow up and realise his parents were so desperate for a girl, they tried to persuade him he is one.

And then splashed it across the media.

He wasn't removed from the group for being trans, he was removed from the group for being male - and yes his parents had every responsibility for being really clear from the get go that this was the case, because whatever his future holds, however he presents himself and his body to the world, that will never change.

Chromosomes have nothing to do with gender.
They have everything to do with sex.

The Guardian isn't a member of IPSO, and since the separated I don't think the Observer had signed up to it.

You can't report a paper to an organisation they haven't signed up to. So it's not the gotcha you think it is.

It would be like referring a teacher to the OFCOM, not OFSTED.

Yes. And Guiding continued to be viable as a single sex organisation because there was enough demand for it.

But it would reduce women's and girls' freedom and safety. Why have you decided that doesn't matter?

This.

When DD was 12 she played a football match against a team with two trans-girls. She was hurt when one tackled her (she was under 5 ft and slight and “she” nearly a foot taller). Less so, but her team were also despondent as the two trans-girls kept scoring as they were faster and stronger.

I often thought how the parents felt of the trans girls on their team. They won the league but the other girls didn’t really get a look in … also they shared changing rooms.

No because it's a boy. And why should a child that age even know being trans exists?!

If they are taught about it that young (which seems unnecessary) it should be framed as something some adults do. And that they are still the sex they were born with.

Yes, me! Quickly followed by HIS penis😂

Scouts became mixed sex because of falling numbers and would have closed.

I can]t help but remember that in the past when people said they were Napoleon, they were't made emperor of France

OP I share your apparent concern about inaccuracy in reporting of the news. I encourage you and other posters to read the following

https://www.womensrights.network/how-to-complain

If enough of us complain perhaps something will be done. If none of us complain nothing will change.

Frankly I have my doubts about the entire article, but here we are.

The story is mawkish bullshit. Suggesting Zoe Williams makes sensible suggestions about anything is also bullshit.

Emotive crap doesn't make lies true, and if this little boy exists, which I very much doubt, the fault lies with the foolish adults around him who propped up a fantasy and encouraged him to think that anyone who won't play along hates him and wants him dead. These contemptible wankers make me SO angry. Warping a child for ideological brownie points.

Jeremy Vine for me.

Some children might be very persistent in their self perception. That still doesn’t make it reality though. Or helpful for adults to affirm.

I hope the child you know has parents strong enough to resist the push to medicalise him or her and remove all possibility of resolving those feelings as he or she matures fully.

I also hope they have instigated investigations into possible autism and endured that there is no history of abuse or trauma that has triggered these feelings, as the majority of kids have one or more of these factors in play.

I really hope SS look into this little boy’s family life. So many red flags if true.

But which bears no relationship whatsoever to reality, as demonstrated by references to a ‘her penis’.

Did anyone else read 'her penis' in Ricky Gervais's voice?

I do strongly believe that this story has been fabricated as the child "started Rainbows" a week before the ruling came into place.

Agree with this!

Do you uncritically believe everything you read? Do you know any six year olds? This decision is entirely down to the parents of the children. The parents who are mostly interested in virtue signalling to their friends that they are not 'transphobic'.

It's not because the child is 'trans', it's because the child is a boy. His parents have lied to him, waved goodbye to reality.

Or it didn't happen - which gets my vote.

@JonesTown- I think you’ve made the same mistake that lead to Girl Guides initially allowing this male child into their Rainbows to start with - you describe Zoe Williams’ suggested change to girl guiding to be “mixed gender” - but it already is and will be after the change in September. You can be any gender, but you must be female (and the right age) to go to Rainbows, Brownies and Guides.

What Zoe Williams was arguing for was for Girl Guiding to be mixed sex.

This trans girl should have been always told they are male, and some things and spaces are for everyone and some things and spaces are for people who are female and some things and spaces are for people who are male.

The 6 year olds parents should have signed them up for Beavers - the youngest you can be to join Rainbows is 4, for the last 2 years it has been clear the tide had turned on the trans debate and self ID wouldn’t be allowed for much longer. These are terrible parents who set their child up to fail. That they ran to the press about their parenting failure and how they put their child in a terrible position, reinforces the fact they aren’t good parents.

I hope this whole family is getting some help.