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Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

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JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:14

Quite a disturbing article in this morning’s Observer regarding the impact of the Guides’ ban on trans girls following the Supreme Court ruling.

It reports on the experience of one six year old trans girl named Emily after hearing she could no longer attend Rainbows:

Emily’s parents decided to be honest with their daughter about the situation, and explained that she was no longer able to take part in Rainbows because she was trans. A few hours later Curt said they found her “sobbing in her room” and were “shocked” to find her holding a pair of plastic scissors to her penis.

AIBU to find this a distressing consequence of campaign by anti-trans activists or is it a natural result of allowing such young children to change their gender identity?

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

The organisation is battling a backlash over new rules that will exclude trans girls from the organisation

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/girlguiding-facing-mass-exodus-after-setting-deadline-for-trans-girls-to-quit

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5MinuteArgument · 29/03/2026 12:52

DrBlackbird · 29/03/2026 12:40

I’m interested to hear your thoughts on if you really mean all spaces being made mixed gender. Are you including prisons? Domestic refuges? Rape relief counselling sessions? Rape testing? Hospital wards?

Are there really no female spaces that you could think are and ought to remain single sex for good reason?

And if someone like the trans woman convicted double rapist Isla Bryson is legally accepted as a woman, he ought to then get access to all female spaces?

Yes, this is the end game. TRAs would ideally like the option where we keep single sex spaces but trans women are legally defined as women so they have full access to them. That's what they would find the most 'validating'.

And does that include refuges, hospital wards and a double rapist in a women's prison? Absolutely!

ThatCyanCat · 29/03/2026 12:51

Sladuf1 · 29/03/2026 12:49

I get the feeling some people have been watching too many episodes of Rugrats! It was amazing just how many escapades and problems those babies solved and the thought- provoking, full blown conversations they had every episode despite their age.

They're all vegan cats...

Waitwhat23 · 29/03/2026 12:50

It's just the usual misogyny of seeing women and girls as resources/support humans/human shields/validation background players for men and boys.

Sladuf1 · 29/03/2026 12:49

HelenaWaiting · 29/03/2026 11:45

Well it's bullshit. Six year old children are not politically aware and do not organise boycotts. Do you usually swallow and regurgitate everything you read in the papers?

I get the feeling some people have been watching too many episodes of Rugrats! It was amazing just how many escapades and problems those babies solved and the thought- provoking, full blown conversations they had every episode despite their age.

beadystar · 29/03/2026 12:46

If this is real (the poor child if so), it kind of serves to exemplify that the safety and rights of little girls should not be the collateral damage of mentally unwell little boys and the entitlement of their parents.

WhereYouLeftIt · 29/03/2026 12:45

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

  1. Zoe Williams is an idiot
  2. Since the mixed-SEX Scouts is available, there is no need for the Brownies to cease being single-sex (unless the aim is to ensure girls can't have anything for themselves without boys' presence)
  3. He's a boy
  4. With mentally ill and abusive parents
HTH
Scout2016 · 29/03/2026 12:43

Come on OP, switch your critical thinking skills on. He's not entitled to attend, he was never entitled to attend. He has been failed and lied to by multiple adults and he needs help.

My daughter doesn't want boys in her Brownies however they think of themselves, and you don't get to give away her single sex activity. Would you like me to tell her that she is being mean and some boys might threaten to hurt themselves so she should just give in and put up with having her rights preferences and boundaries trampled? Shut up and play along with peretuating lies to other children. No thanks.

dapsnotplimsolls · 29/03/2026 12:42

I blame the parents.

Jaxhog · 29/03/2026 12:41

So, so sad. This little boy must be very, very distressed. What on earth were his parents thinking to encourage him to think he was a girl? He's just a child.

DrBlackbird · 29/03/2026 12:40

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:51

Should we move towards a situation like the Greens and Zack Polanski are advocating where trans women are legally recognised as women, and have access to all ‘female’ spaces?

Alternatively, all spaces could simply be made mixed gender.

This would blunt the impact of transphobia.

I’m interested to hear your thoughts on if you really mean all spaces being made mixed gender. Are you including prisons? Domestic refuges? Rape relief counselling sessions? Rape testing? Hospital wards?

Are there really no female spaces that you could think are and ought to remain single sex for good reason?

And if someone like the trans woman convicted double rapist Isla Bryson is legally accepted as a woman, he ought to then get access to all female spaces?

Sirzy · 29/03/2026 12:40

MrsMurphyIWish · 29/03/2026 12:37

And likewise girls who don’t play with dolls are still girls. We seem to have gone back in time with “gendered” clothing and toys.

Exactly. Let children be children and play with what they want but we don’t need to try to make it into something it isn’t.

DS went through a phase of pretending to be a seagull. It didn’t mean he was actually a seagull!

REDB99 · 29/03/2026 12:40

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

So the total erosion of female only spaces? I don’t think so.

Surely you can see how seriously disturbed this child’s upbringing has been? But, yes, let’s blame the women who are protecting the need for female only spaces for the actions of a very unwell child and abusive patenting.

Lougle · 29/03/2026 12:40

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

No, because there are two sexes, and the Girlguiding charitable aim is:

"TO PROMOTE THE EDUCATION OF GIRLS AND YOUNG WOMEN TO HELP THEM DEVELOP EMOTIONALLY, MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO THEIR COMMUNITY AND THE WIDER WORLD"

https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/en/about-the-register-of-charities/-/charity-details/306016/full-print

About the register of charities - prd-ds-register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk

Charity details for THE GUIDE ASSOCIATION - Charity 306016

https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/en/about-the-register-of-charities/-/charity-details/306016/full-print

myglowupera · 29/03/2026 12:39

This poor boy is a victim of his parents and whoever else has got in to his head and brainwashed him. He’s 6 years old and I make no apologies for being angry and sickened at the people who indulge this crap because THIS is what it causes!

lcakethereforeIam · 29/03/2026 12:39

TMFF · 29/03/2026 12:38

(actually her, I've had him neutered)

Should've saved your money and handed him a pair of plastic scissors.

ETA: Sorry - him/her/they/them etc.

Edited

Bastard wouldn't evolve a thumb!

NotSmallButFunSize · 29/03/2026 12:39

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

What would be sensible is parents being the fucking grown up and not filling small children's heads with such shite.

It's been said already but a 6 year old should not have his stuff in their mind - my sister thought she was a bloody horse at 6, why is any of this being pandered to?

"I'm a girl mummy"
"Oh are you, ok!"

Nothing more needed at 6 years old.

JeepersItsTheKraken · 29/03/2026 12:39

I wouldn't tell my child the real reason. I'd say it happens on a different night and we can't do it anymore, just as I would with a club I couldn't afford anymore rather than cause a child anxiety around money. There's no reason for this child, regardless of gender, to have to bear the burden of grown up politics.

TMFF · 29/03/2026 12:38

lcakethereforeIam · 29/03/2026 12:37

I've just given my completely not fictitious cat his dinner (actually her, I've had him neutered). He was already pissed off because I'm an hour late (BST damn you! Shakes fist). He turned his nose up at the flaked salmon, walked over to the fridge and demanded broccoli! Then tried to hang himself on the cat tree. True story.

(actually her, I've had him neutered)

Should've saved your money and handed him a pair of plastic scissors.

ETA: Sorry - him/her/they/them etc.

Starbright102 · 29/03/2026 12:38

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 12:18

The article is simply using the pronouns and identity that the girl and her parents wish to identify with.

The boy is 6 years old! My daughter tells me she is a horse and runs around the garden shouting 'neigh'- iv not moved to a farm to accommodate and started feeding her hay.

Thehop · 29/03/2026 12:38

The problems started when they let their little boy think he could be a girl just because he wanted to.

why not explain that he's a boy, but if he wants to dress feminine he can? That he can wear girls clothes if he wants but he's still a boy?

he's clearly in need of some psychological support poor child.

Sladuf1 · 29/03/2026 12:37

Twitchie · 29/03/2026 11:23

I wonder how the child’s parents broke the news to them about Rainbows. Was it:

’We’re not going to be coming back in September, how about Scouts?’

or was it

‘Evil society hates trans girls like you and you’re not allowed to come back because you have a penis’

Because if this is genuine, a 6yo (in year 1/2) trying to mutilate your own genitalia off is not a normal response to not going back to a club and something is seriously wrong here. How would a child even make that connection (that their penis is the problem)?

How can anyone try and blame the ‘anti-trans’ (feminists) for this? I don’t feel particularly strongly about transgender children in Rainbows/Brownies either way, but seriously, no.

Edited

Twitchie, you’re spot on. How exactly have these parents broken the news to the child for a 6 year old to be making the connection that his penis was the “problem?” @strangerthings2475 you’re right too. I am getting a vibe from this story that there could well be more serious issues at play in that child’s life.

I’ve seen others post vegan cat and I have to say I think this case would be a prime example to suspect that is exactly what is happening here.

MrsMurphyIWish · 29/03/2026 12:37

Sirzy · 29/03/2026 12:34

We had a family friend growing up who at the age of 5 (until about 10) was adamant he was a girl. He only played with “girly” toys and loved playing dress up and with his mums make up.

His parents allowed him to play with what he wanted of course but the didn’t let him believe he was a girl. He was a boy. By the age of 15 he was a happy young man.

parents are the issue in cases like the boy in the article. They need to realise that a boy wanting to play with a doll doesn’t mean they are a girl!

And likewise girls who don’t play with dolls are still girls. We seem to have gone back in time with “gendered” clothing and toys.

SP2024 · 29/03/2026 12:37

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

But then it would just be the same. You might as well merge them if they are both mixed sex as they are so similar (as a Guide Leader myself I think a space for single sex is really important regardless of your views about whether a trans girl is a girl or a boy)

lcakethereforeIam · 29/03/2026 12:37

I've just given my completely not fictitious cat his dinner (actually her, I've had him neutered). He was already pissed off because I'm an hour late (BST damn you! Shakes fist). He turned his nose up at the flaked salmon, walked over to the fridge and demanded broccoli! Then tried to hang himself on the cat tree. True story.

hcee19 · 29/03/2026 12:36

Oh yeah, really. This is a fabricated story. A child of six years old who was trying to cut his penis off has serious mental health issues. A six year old cannot reason with, complex logic, long term consequences, abstract concepts, or high emotion scenarios. Their brains are still developing, and are unable to manage frustration.
Absolutely ridiculous, and l fear for that poor boy...

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