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Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

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JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:14

Quite a disturbing article in this morning’s Observer regarding the impact of the Guides’ ban on trans girls following the Supreme Court ruling.

It reports on the experience of one six year old trans girl named Emily after hearing she could no longer attend Rainbows:

Emily’s parents decided to be honest with their daughter about the situation, and explained that she was no longer able to take part in Rainbows because she was trans. A few hours later Curt said they found her “sobbing in her room” and were “shocked” to find her holding a pair of plastic scissors to her penis.

AIBU to find this a distressing consequence of campaign by anti-trans activists or is it a natural result of allowing such young children to change their gender identity?

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

The organisation is battling a backlash over new rules that will exclude trans girls from the organisation

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/girlguiding-facing-mass-exodus-after-setting-deadline-for-trans-girls-to-quit

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KillTheTurkey · 29/03/2026 13:52

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:48

They identify as women though, and should be treated as such from the perspective of sport categorisation.

Trans women happen to have been assigned male at birth. That should not prevent them participating in the sport grouping that feels most appropriate to them.

OP, what is the difference between men and women?

If - and only if - the answer is ‘nothing’, then your point stands.

If, on the other hand, you refer to any/all of the biological advantages production of male levels of testosterone confers on a post-pubescent man, then single sex sports are the ONLY fair way to approach this issue.

JLou08 · 29/03/2026 13:52

TheKhakiQuail · 29/03/2026 13:44

They certainly do need female only spaces when they are getting changed.

A lot a primary school teachers would say otherwise, they change together for PE at that age.

TheKeatingFive · 29/03/2026 13:51

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:48

They identify as women though, and should be treated as such from the perspective of sport categorisation.

Trans women happen to have been assigned male at birth. That should not prevent them participating in the sport grouping that feels most appropriate to them.

Absolute nonsense.

You don't play sport with your 'gender identity' you play sport with your sexed body.

Is your next move to suggest that people who 'identify' as disabled get to compete against actual paralympians?

Boiledbeetle · 29/03/2026 13:50

loislovesstewie · 29/03/2026 13:46

Apart from the obvious, the safety of the woman, there are other reasons not to walk into the men's loos. Men too, believe it or not, are entitled to privacy when urinating. There are some men who would not want a lone woman wandering in, can you not think of any reason why? Some find urinating in public difficult for example. My adult son with ASD is one.
And men's loos often absolutely reek! I had to check the loos when I worked in a bar, and at the end of the night they were grim. Pity the poor cleaner!
And if women want privacy then that should be extended to men too.

I used to clean at a pub when I was a teenager.

I dreaded Saturday and Sunday mornings as the men's loos would be so absolutely disgusting.

I cannot even begin to describe the sights and smells I encountered regularly!

BlueSkiesAndSunshiiine · 29/03/2026 13:49

Are you a bot? You really sound like a bot.

Taztoy · 29/03/2026 13:49

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:48

They identify as women though, and should be treated as such from the perspective of sport categorisation.

Trans women happen to have been assigned male at birth. That should not prevent them participating in the sport grouping that feels most appropriate to them.

Thankfully for the safety of women and girls, sports governing bodies disagree.

ChequerToRed · 29/03/2026 13:49

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:21

There was an interesting letter to The Guardian a few months ago where a women described how she regularly uses male toilets as the queues are shorter. She has done this for decades without issue.

I think we all need to be more understanding and see each other as individuals rather than simply members of a specific identity group.

What a cowardly non-answer.
You won’t give any more detail than ‘some woman in the Guardian who uses the men’s loos’ because you know full well that anything else exposes your position as being not ridiculous, but actively cruel and deeply misogynistic.
If you have any courage of your convictions, tell us why you think prisons, hospital wards, rape counselling sessions and domestic abuse shelters should be mixed securely. Tell us why female people don’t deserve any single sex spaces under any circumstances.
Go on, we’re all waiting with bated breath.

VickyEadieofThigh · 29/03/2026 13:49

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:43

There are all sorts of physical advantages that different people have in sport. Are we saying that tall girls should be banned from female teams because they are better than others.

I don’t see why a girl should be banned from playing a sport they love simply because they happen to have been assigned male at birth.

You'd best have a word with the IOC, then, as they seem to think that the differences between males and females necessitate single sex events.

The trans-identifying males can still play or compete in their sex category, by the way.

MrsMurphyIWish · 29/03/2026 13:49

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:43

There are all sorts of physical advantages that different people have in sport. Are we saying that tall girls should be banned from female teams because they are better than others.

I don’t see why a girl should be banned from playing a sport they love simply because they happen to have been assigned male at birth.

You play in the correct category for your chromosomes.

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:48

TheKeatingFive · 29/03/2026 13:46

No one's being banned from anything, they just need to play in the right category,

In the interests of fair sport, we don't just let people 'identify' into categories they don't belong to.

We don't let senior athletes compete in junior leagues. We don't let able bodied people compete in the Paralympic's.

We don't let males compete as females. This is not difficult to understand.

They identify as women though, and should be treated as such from the perspective of sport categorisation.

Trans women happen to have been assigned male at birth. That should not prevent them participating in the sport grouping that feels most appropriate to them.

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loislovesstewie · 29/03/2026 13:48

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:43

There are all sorts of physical advantages that different people have in sport. Are we saying that tall girls should be banned from female teams because they are better than others.

I don’t see why a girl should be banned from playing a sport they love simply because they happen to have been assigned male at birth.

No one is assigned at birth. It's observed and noted.

KillTheTurkey · 29/03/2026 13:48

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:43

There are all sorts of physical advantages that different people have in sport. Are we saying that tall girls should be banned from female teams because they are better than others.

I don’t see why a girl should be banned from playing a sport they love simply because they happen to have been assigned male at birth.

OP, please please please I beg you, read the ‘break it down for me’ thread I linked to below. You will start to consider perspectives you had never before realised existed.

Triskellion75 · 29/03/2026 13:47

HermioneWeasley · 29/03/2026 13:46

I can’t decide if OP is a true believer or just trolling us now, but it’s heartening to see that nobody agrees with them.

women have said no, get over it. Fuck off with your “be kind” nonsense - women and girls are not support humans or validation tools or props for delusional males, and we’re taking our stuff back. And I don’t care if that makes some of the males that stole it from us sad. Fuck off.

Sorry, I think we're being trolled too.

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 29/03/2026 13:47

Then the boy supposedly trying to castrate himself aged six needs mental health treatment. I think boys of all ages and men need to be told two clear things: you cannot change your sex; wanting to change your sex does not grant you access to all spaces and opportunities for girls and women. However hard you scream, cry or threaten.

loislovesstewie · 29/03/2026 13:46

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:21

There was an interesting letter to The Guardian a few months ago where a women described how she regularly uses male toilets as the queues are shorter. She has done this for decades without issue.

I think we all need to be more understanding and see each other as individuals rather than simply members of a specific identity group.

Apart from the obvious, the safety of the woman, there are other reasons not to walk into the men's loos. Men too, believe it or not, are entitled to privacy when urinating. There are some men who would not want a lone woman wandering in, can you not think of any reason why? Some find urinating in public difficult for example. My adult son with ASD is one.
And men's loos often absolutely reek! I had to check the loos when I worked in a bar, and at the end of the night they were grim. Pity the poor cleaner!
And if women want privacy then that should be extended to men too.

HermioneWeasley · 29/03/2026 13:46

I can’t decide if OP is a true believer or just trolling us now, but it’s heartening to see that nobody agrees with them.

women have said no, get over it. Fuck off with your “be kind” nonsense - women and girls are not support humans or validation tools or props for delusional males, and we’re taking our stuff back. And I don’t care if that makes some of the males that stole it from us sad. Fuck off.

TheKeatingFive · 29/03/2026 13:46

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:43

There are all sorts of physical advantages that different people have in sport. Are we saying that tall girls should be banned from female teams because they are better than others.

I don’t see why a girl should be banned from playing a sport they love simply because they happen to have been assigned male at birth.

No one's being banned from anything, they just need to play in the right category,

In the interests of fair sport, we don't just let people 'identify' into categories they don't belong to.

We don't let senior athletes compete in junior leagues. We don't let able bodied people compete in the Paralympic's.

We don't let males compete as females. This is not difficult to understand.

Taztoy · 29/03/2026 13:45

dapsnotplimsolls · 29/03/2026 13:36

Because you're a woman.

Exactly.

Taztoy · 29/03/2026 13:45

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:43

There are all sorts of physical advantages that different people have in sport. Are we saying that tall girls should be banned from female teams because they are better than others.

I don’t see why a girl should be banned from playing a sport they love simply because they happen to have been assigned male at birth.

They’re not female though. They’re male. That’s why they should compete in the team that matches their sex.

Triskellion75 · 29/03/2026 13:44

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:43

There are all sorts of physical advantages that different people have in sport. Are we saying that tall girls should be banned from female teams because they are better than others.

I don’t see why a girl should be banned from playing a sport they love simply because they happen to have been assigned male at birth.

You think it's all about size? Males have bigger hearts, lungs, muscle mass. Males competing against females is not a fair competition, ever.

TheKhakiQuail · 29/03/2026 13:44

JLou08 · 29/03/2026 13:20

6 year olds don't need female only spaces. Absolutely appalling and unnecessary that this young child was excluded. It is going too far. Maybe if we got rid of these rigid gender boxes children wouldn't feel they need to be another gender to fit in the box.

They certainly do need female only spaces when they are getting changed.

Swiftie1878 · 29/03/2026 13:44

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:43

There are all sorts of physical advantages that different people have in sport. Are we saying that tall girls should be banned from female teams because they are better than others.

I don’t see why a girl should be banned from playing a sport they love simply because they happen to have been assigned male at birth.

He isn’t banned. He can play with the other boys.

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:43

BoredZelda · 29/03/2026 12:54

In my daughter’s school’s basketball team there was one girl who was bigger and faster than all the others in the mixed team. She basically ran up and down the court scoring and no-one got a look in. I have no idea how the rest of the team felt but it looked bad to me. I took that as an error in coaching rather than the fault of the girl who was just playing a game to the best of her ability.

There are all sorts of physical advantages that different people have in sport. Are we saying that tall girls should be banned from female teams because they are better than others.

I don’t see why a girl should be banned from playing a sport they love simply because they happen to have been assigned male at birth.

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TheKeatingFive · 29/03/2026 13:41

JLou08 · 29/03/2026 13:20

6 year olds don't need female only spaces. Absolutely appalling and unnecessary that this young child was excluded. It is going too far. Maybe if we got rid of these rigid gender boxes children wouldn't feel they need to be another gender to fit in the box.

The Girl Guides can change to become unisex any time they like.

What they can't do is advertise themselves as single sex, yet allow boys through the back door on the grounds of their 'gender'.

Swiftie1878 · 29/03/2026 13:41

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:21

There was an interesting letter to The Guardian a few months ago where a women described how she regularly uses male toilets as the queues are shorter. She has done this for decades without issue.

I think we all need to be more understanding and see each other as individuals rather than simply members of a specific identity group.

Please God, tell me you are joking and that you do understand why this is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!

Don’t make people explain something so basic.