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Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

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JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:14

Quite a disturbing article in this morning’s Observer regarding the impact of the Guides’ ban on trans girls following the Supreme Court ruling.

It reports on the experience of one six year old trans girl named Emily after hearing she could no longer attend Rainbows:

Emily’s parents decided to be honest with their daughter about the situation, and explained that she was no longer able to take part in Rainbows because she was trans. A few hours later Curt said they found her “sobbing in her room” and were “shocked” to find her holding a pair of plastic scissors to her penis.

AIBU to find this a distressing consequence of campaign by anti-trans activists or is it a natural result of allowing such young children to change their gender identity?

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

The organisation is battling a backlash over new rules that will exclude trans girls from the organisation

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/girlguiding-facing-mass-exodus-after-setting-deadline-for-trans-girls-to-quit

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nighteynightey · 29/03/2026 14:36

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

The most sensible solution to all this would be for parents to stop allowing their children to believe that they can change sex. Yes you can wear pink, yes you can play with dolls, no you cannot become a girl.

Manxexile · 29/03/2026 14:35

MrsMurphyIWish · 29/03/2026 14:34

@Sirzy Wow! Good luck! (Off topic)

Edited

Yeah. Good luck @Sirzy

murasaki · 29/03/2026 14:35

Sirzy · 29/03/2026 14:33

I am doing a strongwoman competition in a few weeks. The beginners female category the max deadlift is 120kg, the male beginners it’s 200kg. The same applies to every category.

Because like it or not those born male have strength advantages. It would be very unfair for a trans woman to compete against me because they have a natural advantage that no amount of training can overcome!

Best of luck!!

murasaki · 29/03/2026 14:34

@JonesTown , having fun running off to reddit about what big green meanies we are?

MrsMurphyIWish · 29/03/2026 14:34

@Sirzy Wow! Good luck! (Off topic)

Sirzy · 29/03/2026 14:33

I am doing a strongwoman competition in a few weeks. The beginners female category the max deadlift is 120kg, the male beginners it’s 200kg. The same applies to every category.

Because like it or not those born male have strength advantages. It would be very unfair for a trans woman to compete against me because they have a natural advantage that no amount of training can overcome!

ainsleysanob · 29/03/2026 14:31

Make Women Women Again.

nighteynightey · 29/03/2026 14:30

Any child that wants to cut part of their body off because they can't go to Rainbows has some very serious mental health issues and really needs serious help. That is not a normal response to 'you can't go to Rainbows anymore'.

I mean children are told things that are a million billion times worse than this, their grandparent has died, their dad is moving out, their dog that they've grown up with is going to have to be put down. Extremely difficult things happen to children - not being able to go to an hour long after school group any more is not one of them and should not mean you consider cutting off part of your body.

Franpie · 29/03/2026 14:28

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:48

They identify as women though, and should be treated as such from the perspective of sport categorisation.

Trans women happen to have been assigned male at birth. That should not prevent them participating in the sport grouping that feels most appropriate to them.

You’re just being goady now and you know it.

My DD16 and DS14 go to the gym together serval times a week. They are both athletes and work out and train as hard as each other.

My 14yo son can lift significantly heavier weights than my 16yo daughter. He is stronger, faster, and developing a lot quicker.

That’s just biology. Which is why all sports segregate biological sex.

GCAcademic · 29/03/2026 14:27

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 14:07

The Green Party position is that trans women are women, and should have access to female spaces alongside non-binary people.

Until we reach a position where all facilities are multi-gender, the Greens’ position would avoid trans people being so distressed that a six year old girl tries to cut her penis off.

Why are we only required to spare the distress of one group of people? Why not give everyone who is distressed everything that they are demanding?

Could it be because the specific group of people iin question is male?

ThatCyanCat · 29/03/2026 14:27

TwistedWonder · 29/03/2026 14:23

Oh we’re still plying TRA bullshit bingo then?

Eyes down for a full house

Hitler
Far Right
Born in wrong body
Her penis
Trump
Assigned male at birth
Bigot
TERF
#bekind
Intersex
people with a cervix
Cis

Have I missed anything?

Edited

Policing women's bodies (for penises)

Your husband will run off with a sexy TW he met in the gents

You're all ugly

TheKeatingFive · 29/03/2026 14:26

TheKhakiQuail · 29/03/2026 14:25

I know! Strange bedfellows and all that. So under the 'if you agree on a single point you "share the views of" rule, does that make Trump a commie, or the Communist Party MAGA?

Brain breaking, right? 🤪

TheKhakiQuail · 29/03/2026 14:25

TheKeatingFive · 29/03/2026 14:22

On this issue, Trump IS on the same side as the communist party

I know! Strange bedfellows and all that. So under the 'if you agree on a single point you "share the views of" rule, does that make Trump a commie, or the Communist Party MAGA?

BiologicalRobot · 29/03/2026 14:25

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 14:07

The Green Party position is that trans women are women, and should have access to female spaces alongside non-binary people.

Until we reach a position where all facilities are multi-gender, the Greens’ position would avoid trans people being so distressed that a six year old girl tries to cut her penis off.

Is this the same Green Party who thinks its leader can hypnotise a woman into having physically bigger boobs? You really think that party is credible? 😂

NO. Real men stay out of women's single sex spaces voluntarily. The men who don't should be prosecuted.

Parents who think their son can be a girl should have their mental health checked first, then the possibility of them being abusive checked second. And prosecuted for that abuse.

GivesYourHosieryaFright · 29/03/2026 14:25

TwistedWonder · 29/03/2026 14:23

Oh we’re still plying TRA bullshit bingo then?

Eyes down for a full house

Hitler
Far Right
Born in wrong body
Her penis
Trump
Assigned male at birth
Bigot
TERF
#bekind
Intersex
people with a cervix
Cis

Have I missed anything?

Edited

Have I missed anything?

Yes. Clown fish

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 29/03/2026 14:24

@JonesTown- please please please - can you stop saying mixed gender when you mean mixed sex?!

Girl guiding is mixed gender. Olympic sports are mixed gender, because you can be any gender as long as you are female. What they are doing is moving back to being single sex.

You would be better at making your arguments if you were clear about what exactly you are arguing for.

Mixed sex and mixed gender means different things and confusing what you are arguing for won’t help this.

TwistedWonder · 29/03/2026 14:23

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:55

The IOC have caved into pressure from Trump and the far-right gender critical activists.

Those who are campaigning against dignity for trans women should be asking themselves if they’re really happy to be on the same side as Trump 🙄

Oh we’re still plying TRA bullshit bingo then?

Eyes down for a full house

Hitler
Far Right
Born in wrong body
Her penis
Trump
Assigned male at birth
Bigot
TERF
#bekind
Intersex
people with a cervix
Cis

Have I missed anything?

TheKeatingFive · 29/03/2026 14:22

TheKhakiQuail · 29/03/2026 14:20

So if Trump is on the same side as the Communist Party...😂

On this issue, Trump IS on the same side as the communist party

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 29/03/2026 14:22

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 14:07

The Green Party position is that trans women are women, and should have access to female spaces alongside non-binary people.

Until we reach a position where all facilities are multi-gender, the Greens’ position would avoid trans people being so distressed that a six year old girl tries to cut her penis off.

Almost all facilities ARE ‘multi gender’. (Except for the ones appropriated by trans activists).

No one cares what an individual’s self perception is. These facilities are (or should be) all single sex though as SEX is the determinant that matters for privacy and safety of women.

The Green Party are currently very confused about a lot of issues. Writing cheques that society isn’t prepared to cash by telling young boys they can be girls if they want is part of their problem.

TheKhakiQuail · 29/03/2026 14:20

5128gap · 29/03/2026 14:18

Categorically not. Couldn't be further from. I'm on the same side as The Communist Party.

So if Trump is on the same side as the Communist Party...😂

5128gap · 29/03/2026 14:18

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 13:55

The IOC have caved into pressure from Trump and the far-right gender critical activists.

Those who are campaigning against dignity for trans women should be asking themselves if they’re really happy to be on the same side as Trump 🙄

Categorically not. Couldn't be further from. I'm on the same side as The Communist Party.

SixtySomething · 29/03/2026 14:18

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:36

The girl clearly wants to identify as female, and I think it’s only right that we respect her wishes in how we refer to her.

I don’t think a six year old is capable of ‘wanting’
a change like this! It’s the parents FGS! 😖

I wanted to be a boy when I was 6 and that was down to the better life I saw boys having in reality and books. A couple of my friends also wanted to be boys and that was down to eg being treated as the son their father wanted.

Now we’re in our 60s, I shudder to think of us changing gender.
I certainly don’t feel like a man and don’t want to change gender, since I’ve discovered the power of giving birth, breast feeding and motherhood.

it all seems totally twisted to me and frightening,

Misogyny at its worst!

Boiledbeetle · 29/03/2026 14:17

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/03/2026 14:10

Is this a reverse? Surely nobody could genuinely be this stupid. You are making a spectacle of yourself. Best to stop now and go and have a walk in the fresh air.

There's a similar one on the Caster thread. I think there must be something in the water!

TheKhakiQuail · 29/03/2026 14:17

HRTQueen · 29/03/2026 13:52

This is really sad to read

just how do we move forward supporting children who are feeling confused who do believe they are born in the wrong body

I feel both sides have become so entrenched in their views that we have lost the ability to have sensible conversations

It is really sad to read. However, this child has a group of friends who are loyal and want to do out-of-school activities together. It should not be had to find one or more activities they enjoy and are eligible for. Encouraging a child to join a single sex group that they are likely to be ineligible for is really not fair on that child. How the parents and therapists address the gender issue is one thing, but far more simple is to ensure the child's social and recreational needs are met. This can clearly be achieved without girl guides.

Ved · 29/03/2026 14:16

Boiledbeetle · 29/03/2026 14:15

The Green Party lost their grip on reality a long time ago.

The only people responsible for the distressed 6 year old BOY wanting to cut his penis off is his parents.

Why should every member of the female half of humanity suffer so that some boys and men don't get told no?

Exactly!