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Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

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JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:14

Quite a disturbing article in this morning’s Observer regarding the impact of the Guides’ ban on trans girls following the Supreme Court ruling.

It reports on the experience of one six year old trans girl named Emily after hearing she could no longer attend Rainbows:

Emily’s parents decided to be honest with their daughter about the situation, and explained that she was no longer able to take part in Rainbows because she was trans. A few hours later Curt said they found her “sobbing in her room” and were “shocked” to find her holding a pair of plastic scissors to her penis.

AIBU to find this a distressing consequence of campaign by anti-trans activists or is it a natural result of allowing such young children to change their gender identity?

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

The organisation is battling a backlash over new rules that will exclude trans girls from the organisation

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/girlguiding-facing-mass-exodus-after-setting-deadline-for-trans-girls-to-quit

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Hoardasurass · 01/04/2026 18:27

TealScroller · 31/03/2026 13:16

I agree, it's utterly tragic. Trans girls ARE girls and the decision to exclude them from guides (or any other gendered institution) is plain wrong.

Trans girls are boys and there's no such thing as a gendered institution.
There are however single sex groups and institutions like girl guides.
It is both legally required and correct to exclude boys regardless of how they identify from girls single sex groups

Hoardasurass · 01/04/2026 16:57

@Ollldy78 I was what would now be referred to as a trans child way back when the only treatment thankfully, was watchful waiting. I spent years coming to terms with my abuse and trauma in therapy (which was a large part of watchful waiting) and that along with completing puberty cured me of what would now be called gender dysphoria but was correctly recognised as a type of body dismorphia.
I am still friends with the others from my group therapy and only 1 who still identifies as a transexual woman (how he refers to himself) and guess what he's as horrified as I am by the way gender identity ideology is being pushed onto children by groups like mermaids, stonewall etc and the way children from nursery upwards are being indoctrinated in it.
The belief that everyone has a gender identity is just that a belief with no grounding in fact. Even the term gender identity is an invented phrase created by a disgraced former Dr named John monay(sp) to justify his abuse of a set of twin boys. It was then expanded by a French self confessed pedophile named forcult to help explane why pedophilia should be excepted.
In the years since people like Judith butler have expanded further on the theory of gender identity and used it to create the current system of gender ideology that we now see being pushed by schools, teachers, college's, councils, activist groups and governments (looking at you Welsh and Scottish government's).
The insistence that everyone has an inate gender identity and that it should take precedent over biological reality in all circumstances, the demands of compelled speach in the form of wrong sexed pronouns and grammatically incorrect language along with the compelled acts of religious observance such as sharing your pronouns and most importantly how appostates (detransitioners) and those who refuse to comply are treated are all signs of the fact that gender identity ideology is nothing more than a quasi religious cult.
Most children suffer from body dismorphia during adolescence and will grow out of it if nobody affims their beliefs, for those children who are abuse survivors and/or are gay or autistic they will need therapy to come to terms with their asd, sexuality and/or abuse and then the body dismorphia usually resolves itself, with only a tiny minority persisting into adulthood.
It is only with affirmation therapy along with puberty blockers and parents and schools socially transitioning children do we see most going onto cross sex hormones and mutilating surgeries.
What we now have is a repeat of the explosion of anorexia we saw in the late 90s early 00s where it became a form of social contagion driven by online pro Anna groups and websites. Only this time its not only being driven by online groups but by schools and governments and as always when it comes to social contagions it's the girls and the vulnerable nd kids who are disproportionately affected.

You wondered where your dc got the idea from look to the school and what its teaching your dc.
Oh and yes its far too much to ask me to refer to a man or boy as female or to use wrong sexed pronouns for anyone as I will not lie or be a party to what I consider a dangerous and harmful belief system

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 01/04/2026 08:01

😂

RedToothBrush · 01/04/2026 08:00

sunshine244 · 31/03/2026 22:53

My dog is absolutely sure he's a human. Perhaps he should start guides (he's been neutered so....).

My guinea pig used to come and sit on the sofa and watch TV with me. He was definitely transhuman.

PoppinjayPolly · 01/04/2026 07:58

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 01/04/2026 07:47

If you like clown fish and avocados,
And getting caught in the rain!

If you’re into demanding
things that are totally insane!! 🎶

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 01/04/2026 07:47

If you like clown fish and avocados,
And getting caught in the rain!

MagpiePi · 01/04/2026 07:46

Comtesse · 31/03/2026 19:43

Nooo is that true? Good grief that is creative I must say….

I suppose it makes a change from clown fish and avocados.

Helleofabore · 01/04/2026 05:09

Maybe this video helps work out the manipulations that we see happening around this topic.

this video point out the manipulation tactics of FOG.

Fear
Obligation
Guilt

https://x.com/knownheretic/status/2038653939034566875?s=46

The attempt at manipulation via guilt that @JonesTown attempted in creating this thread is part of this. It might be something that people pass down unknowingly because so many activists do it and call it progressive, but it is part of the dynamic.

The act of coercing others to treat someone’s personal subjective reality as if it is established and proven material reality is based in part on supporting a narcissism dynamic. Ultimately that is where the accusations we have just in this thread but also in many other interactions lead back to once you start to trace it all and to strip away the emotional reasoning and manipulation.

Helleofabore · 01/04/2026 03:46

TheKhakiQuail · 01/04/2026 02:20

It annoys me how the media here always go with 'anti-trans' when it is just standard feminism as per 15 years ago. With other controversial topics, even if they pick side, they are often honest about what each group if for e.g. pro-choice vs pro-life. Or pro-Palestine & pro-Israel.

i know Quail. It is one of the many asymmetries I have noticed about this topic. Then you read things like the Dentons report, and you realise just how much strategising over 50 years this took.

Have you seen this letter and this video clip from the 70s? 50 years of DARVO build up. 50 years of building up the misogyny to the point that we now have posters abusively telling women how they are far right in any way, Trump supporters, zealots and the long list of absurdities for not believing male people’s subjective realities are materially real when they are not and never have been.

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TheKhakiQuail · 01/04/2026 02:20

Helleofabore · 31/03/2026 16:07

It is something that is hard to categorise unless you have deep knowledge and I never assume that people have that knowledge.

The background is interesting though. There really is so much media using the term and I believe that they might do it out of laziness (and they absolutely should be the people who are very careful about their language usage) or out of getting their information from biased sources rather than going to original sources and making an informed decision, or they are simply the ones who are ideologically driven.

For instance, the Australian media channels regularly use the term and it then will spread anywhere that uses an Australian article to base their own article on.

The change came about when the term 'transphobic' was debunked as a term to use to describe female people rejecting a male person's access to a single sex provision. It noticeably became 'anti-trans' very quickly after a judgement here in the UK that clarified that female people did have the right to single sex provisions and that this was not 'transphobic'.

In any case, as you can see, language accuracy is one of the core aspects of this discussion.

It annoys me how the media here always go with 'anti-trans' when it is just standard feminism as per 15 years ago. With other controversial topics, even if they pick side, they are often honest about what each group if for e.g. pro-choice vs pro-life. Or pro-Palestine & pro-Israel.

sunshine244 · 31/03/2026 22:53

My dog is absolutely sure he's a human. Perhaps he should start guides (he's been neutered so....).

MoistVonL · 31/03/2026 20:20

Well played, Rhinos

PoppinjayPolly · 31/03/2026 20:09

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 19:14

Oh hang on though, you might be on to something here...

Trans - opposite side of
Ships keep liquid outside
Gravy boats keep liquid inside
So gravy boats are the opposite of boats
Which makes them trans boats
Which by TXAX logic makes them... also boats!!!!

And that's Numberwang!!!

(Or possibly just a Dusty Bin)

Edited

Rotate the board Simon!!!!

Comtesse · 31/03/2026 19:43

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 18:35

Gravy Boats are Boats

Someone genuinely tried to use that to prove TWAW here once. No I didn't follow the thinking either. Sonething like "they are different types of Boats, but both valid Boats "

Nooo is that true? Good grief that is creative I must say….

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 19:14

PoppinjayPolly · 31/03/2026 18:55

ah… one where the purpose is to keep liquid in, one where purpose is to keep it out?
but easily interchangeable….
i know I’ve accidentally climbed into the gravy boat on the dinner table and cried “take me to Larne!!”

Oh hang on though, you might be on to something here...

Trans - opposite side of
Ships keep liquid outside
Gravy boats keep liquid inside
So gravy boats are the opposite of boats
Which makes them trans boats
Which by TXAX logic makes them... also boats!!!!

And that's Numberwang!!!

(Or possibly just a Dusty Bin)

ThatCyanCat · 31/03/2026 19:04

PoppinjayPolly · 31/03/2026 18:55

ah… one where the purpose is to keep liquid in, one where purpose is to keep it out?
but easily interchangeable….
i know I’ve accidentally climbed into the gravy boat on the dinner table and cried “take me to Larne!!”

I think that counts as misgendering the gravy boat. You bigot. Donald Trump doesn't sail in gravy boats either so that means you're aligned with him too.

PoppinjayPolly · 31/03/2026 18:55

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 18:35

Gravy Boats are Boats

Someone genuinely tried to use that to prove TWAW here once. No I didn't follow the thinking either. Sonething like "they are different types of Boats, but both valid Boats "

ah… one where the purpose is to keep liquid in, one where purpose is to keep it out?
but easily interchangeable….
i know I’ve accidentally climbed into the gravy boat on the dinner table and cried “take me to Larne!!”

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 18:54

NotAtMyAge · 31/03/2026 18:46

I'd like to see a gravy boat float in a rough sea....

I was trying to get him/her/them to see that gravy boats were named after boats, and if the real boats didn't exist then no one would have independently come up with that name for a gravy jug, and so no they weren't different types of boats, they were boats and something named in reference to boats that was certainly not a boat or interchangeable with an actual boat in any boat-requiring scenario. But it (probably deliberately) wouldn't sink in.

Unlike gravy boats, which definitely would sink in any significant body of water

5128gap · 31/03/2026 18:53

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 18:48

I have no idea what this means, but I still think it was worth saying

All rocks are equally valid and should be treated the same.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 18:48

5128gap · 31/03/2026 18:47

Gotcha. That's me off to purchase an Australian sandstone monolith that plays The ecstasy of gold from a little stall on Blackpool front then.

I have no idea what this means, but I still think it was worth saying

5128gap · 31/03/2026 18:47

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 18:35

Gravy Boats are Boats

Someone genuinely tried to use that to prove TWAW here once. No I didn't follow the thinking either. Sonething like "they are different types of Boats, but both valid Boats "

Gotcha. That's me off to purchase an Australian sandstone monolith that plays The ecstasy of gold from a little stall on Blackpool front then.

NotAtMyAge · 31/03/2026 18:46

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 18:35

Gravy Boats are Boats

Someone genuinely tried to use that to prove TWAW here once. No I didn't follow the thinking either. Sonething like "they are different types of Boats, but both valid Boats "

I'd like to see a gravy boat float in a rough sea....

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/03/2026 18:35

Gravy Boats are Boats

Someone genuinely tried to use that to prove TWAW here once. No I didn't follow the thinking either. Sonething like "they are different types of Boats, but both valid Boats "

MagpiePi · 31/03/2026 18:26

Clothes horses are horses
Sea horses are horses
Saw horses are horses
Pommel horses are horses

lcakethereforeIam · 31/03/2026 16:38

Post boxes are confused.

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