Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

The Green Party is so incompetent it couldn't even run its spring conference on Zoom properly this weekend. Why on earth should anyone pay any attention to a supposedly environmentalist party that thinks people can change sex? Trans-identifying men aren't any kind of woman and non-binary is just narcissism on steroids. Look at meeee!

As for the poor little boy in the article, what he needs is very much better parenting.

Have you been out of the loop for a bit? We've moved on from "peak trans" and back to a point of common sense that men cannot be women. Even if they, and you, insist they can.

Exactly, it’s completely ridiculous to suggest this.

Now you're talking even more nonsense. The Supreme Court judgment confirmed that single-sex spaces, services and sports are based on biological sex at birth, not any unprovable inner gender feelings. Why on earth should unchangeably male people be allowed access to female spaces just because they want it? Zack is transparently fishing for the ultra-lefties in Labour who are dissatisfied with their party's reaction to the Supreme Court judgment. However the mess the Greens are currently making when they actually hold power - hello Bristol Council - should mean they never get a chance to form a government which could actually make this scenario happen. All the movement legally is in the other direction.

How would failure to use chosen pronouns be judged?

If someone changed their pronouns and people forget?

Or if someone invented new strange pronouns and people don't want to use them?

What about if its someone with a disability that struggles with change. Or has black and white thinking and can't understand/accept using a pronoun that doesn't match what they see?

What age would it become illegal to make mistakes?

It's just a lie, like all of it.

That's some wilful misunderstanding of what HJ actually says isn't it!

I don't know if this this Daddy dearest answering this comment but it's a bold claim, accusing Helen Joyce of seeking the literal erasure of trans men/women.

Are you going to try to prosecute the Supreme Court? Because they have stated that our biological sex is the defining factor in being male or female. How is “failure to uphold or recognise their chosen gender and pronouns” in anyway “abuse, disrespect or hatred” when it’s simply a statement of biological fact?

I’m genuinely concerned for your mental health, you are deeply delusional.

Late to the thread but I find it extremely hard to believe that a 6 year old would try to cut off body parts because they weren’t allowed to do something.

If they did then it’s a serious failing on behalf of the parents who are putting ideas into the child’s head.

Ive got two children (boys) at 6 they couldn’t have given less of a shit about their sex/gender, let alone associated their penises with their biological sex.

Both were completely free to wear and play with whatever they wanted. Eldest at nursery loved dressing up in princess dresses and later on loved dolls, ponies and Dora the explorer. I simply never batted an eyelid or made him feel that any of these things were wrong or gendered in any way.

I believe that sex is biological and that gender is a spectrum based on what society does and doesn’t accept.

I simply cannot fathom why at 6 years old a child is identifying as the opposite sex/gender unless an adult had planted the idea in their heads.

Yeah! We all know who it is in that family who is doing the transing! I have my suspicions about his motives.

And if they are just turned 6 (year 1), they would have known about the change of policy before signing up their child

The friends can chose to support however they wish. Most Rainbows units are massively oversubscribed (we could fill ours 3 times over) so those places will be filled easily if the girls chose to stop going.
Also depending when his birthday is, he would potentially have had to leave in the summer anyway - they leave when turn 7. So his parents could have easily said - you are getting too old for Rainbows, let's look at Beavers instead.

There is absolutely no obligation on anyone to refer to a male person as she/her just because he wants it, especially a six-year-old who shouldn't even be thinking in those terms. For me third-person pronouns are sex-based as they always were in the past.

I think that's going in the next Green Party manifesto.

Well if it's the father I think it might be, that would explain a lot. Red flags everywhere with that one.

Irrespective of their ages, girls don’t have penises.

Wouldn’t it be more sensible for women and girls to just shut up and let men and boys take our rights to single sex spaces? No, Jones, it wouldn’t be more sensible. What would be more sensible would be for the parents of this poor little darling to get him the care he needs to understand that he is male. And that there is absolutely nothing wrong with him or his body, and he can present himself however he likes, and play with whoever he likes, but he will always be male. And there is nothing wrong with that.

To quote Janet Murray, “Girlguiding isn’t just a brand. It’s a charity with a defined purpose: for girls. You can’t simply rename it and carry on as before. Changing that purpose would require formal processes, consultation, and potentially regulatory approval”.

Alternatively, all spaces could simply be made mixed gender Do you have no understanding of why single sex spaces were introduced in the first place? Why do you believe women shouldn’t have a right to single sex spaces anymore? Because to allow men in, removes those rights. You cannot have them. The answer is no. You might not want those rights for yourself, or for your daughters, but you’re not having my rights, or the rights of millions of other women. No.

Most Rainbows and Brownie groups have long waiting lists to join, so I'm guessing the flouncers were soon replaced.

Why should girls have to make their organisation mixed sex in order to allow confused little boys to join? Why don't the confused boys join Scouts?

The parent in question wrote about it months ago on Medium: https://medium.com/@ParentofaTransGirl/she-just-wanted-to-wear-the-uniform-how-a-six-year-old-trans-girl-was-left-behind-4d0411e9d59e

I should have read to the end of the thread and the post by @MrsOvertonsWindow.

I linked to the relevant article by the child's father upthread. See here:

https://medium.com/@ParentofaTransGirl/she-just-wanted-to-wear-the-uniform-how-a-six-year-old-trans-girl-was-left-behind-4d0411e9d59e

There was a link to this earlier (see below).
I also recall a previous thread be pulled. I hope this one remains as we're in this mess because parents have been repeatedly bullied out of safeguarding their children. Even on this thread there are accusations of transphobia and bigotry because posters are very clear that transactivism shouldn't be anywhere near vulnerable young children

This poor child has been weaponised by both their parent and transactivists. In this case in an attempt to argue that girls should have nothing for themselves without including boys.

nauticant · Today 15:22
This might well be the source of the story:
https://medium.com/@ParentofaTransGirl/she-just-wanted-to-wear-the-uniform-how-a-six-year-old-trans-girl-was-left-behind-4d0411e9d59e

I don't know if this has already been mentioned but I am certain this is the same family that was discussed on here some time ago, which was eventually pulled because (I assume) there were links to his blog featuring very identifiable photos of his son.
I am not at all surprised he is now weaponising the confusion and disappointment he has caused for his son.
I do wonder what Freud would make of all this. IIRC a big part of his theory was that little girls were terribly disappointed when they realised that little boys had penises and they didn't. And little boys feared castration by their fathers as punishment for their incestuous desires towards their mothers.

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