Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

The child is male. I object to using terms that don't agree with their sex. For lots of reasons.

The child is male.

Would it be asking too much for you to say “her”?

I absolutely agree that children can feel pigeonholed by societal gender expectations (feels like a very wordy way to say that!). However, hand on heart I do not know where these crept into my child’s orbit.

I never expected to find myself parenting a trans child, it was not in any way on my radar. My firstborn really wasn’t pushed into playing with gender typical toys, but this was because I was more interested in STEM / musical toys and I loathe plastic tat. Initially they would always choose gender typical clothing.
They have told me that they were trying on a pair of glasses in boots, looked around them and just “felt” as though they were meant to be the opposite gender. Nothing more significant than that..

I read posts on threads like these and it seems as though people imagine the parents of trans children to either be plotting some nefarious world dominating ideology based around public bathrooms, or hearing their child express a gender questioning opinion and immediately throwing a trans flag around them and changing their pronouns. The reality is very different, much more nuanced. I would really like to know how many of the “I’d just tell them that’s not real” brigade have ever met a trans person / child?

However, I have to vehemently disagree with the idea that a 6 yo needs to receive immediate psychiatric care because she has her own opinion about how she feels about her own gender identity,

This 6 year old child was apparently trying to cut off his penis with a pair of scissors. If that is true them he does need immediate psychiatric care

In order for a child to think that they are 'not' their biological gender, they will have absorbed (on some level) that certain behaviours and preferences are associated with each gender.

As a parent, I believe it is our job to challenge this thinking whenever it raises its head. There is no 'right' way to be a boy or a girl, therefore there is no way they can be getting it wrong or are somehow misaligned.

A boy can love wearing sparkly dresses and nail varnish. A girl can live in shorts and love rough play. So that's the attitude I think should be taught and modelled.

Actual, genuine gender dysphoria is a real thing, but in its classic format it has much more to do with distress at one's sex organs than anything to do with societal stereotypes. It is thankfully very rare, but children who suffer from this should be having extensive counselling and psychological care.

Oh well then I want to identify as black. I want access to black spaces, I want to speak publicly on black issues and in fact not only be respected but I want to be considered very special and an improved version of blackness. I want to change my appearance to match those that some in Society consider markers of blackness.

Oh wait no I don't, im not a heinous monster who thinks appropriating the cultures of those with less privilege is fine and dandy or in your words, only right.

Womanhood is not something you can simply decide to copy. If you think it is little more that long hair and genital removal then it shows how deeply embedded your misogyny is. Do you think blackness is simply defined by afro hair, big lips and ability to run fast because most would consider that stereotyping to be hideous racism. Surface appearance does not a woman make.

Yet you are more that happy to give away womens identities, your sheer hatred of women, our identies, our safety and our rights is on display for all to see. You are absolutely no better than a rascist peddling stereotypes and appropriation.

I, like other posters am concerned that this little boy gets the mental health support he needs and that he is protected from his parents who frankly are very obviously emotionally abusing this child to suit their political agenda.

He can no more be a woman than he can be a dolphin.

I don’t disagree with having safe spaces for women. I don’t disagree with the idea that you cannot change your biological sex. I don’t disagree with the idea that this girl’s parents did her a disservice by not steering her towards scouts, etc rather than rainbows.

However, I have to vehemently disagree with the idea that a 6 yo needs to receive immediate psychiatric care because she has her own opinion about how she feels about her own gender identity, or that these opinions must have been forced upon her by her hemp chewing parents.

I know that my opinions are based on actual experience. I am very curious to hear how many of the highly opinionated posters on this thread have actually lived through having their child explain to them that they felt as though they “are” their non biological gender?

I don’t believe there are many parents out there who want anything other than the best, happiest and easiest life for their child. No parent thinks that their child being trans is an easy ride in life.

My 6 yo could not be repackaged into a non gender questioning box by being told “your biology can’t change” - so having tried a few variations of that line, what would you actually do next?

To be clear, I’m very happy with how my kid & I have navigated this, thus far. I am just really keen to find out how all the posters who seem to think it’s so simple to set these “unwell” or even “abused” children straight with a bit of decent parenting would go about it..?

It’s Zoe Williams so what do you expect?

yup

Even if they had the right hat! 😂

The dad is delutional. Whe the heck didn't he explain biology to his son. Stating she is a girl when he isn't us very cruel and will kead to a life of confusion. Why would he do this to.hus child?

"I am a father. My daughter is six years old. She is transgender, happy, bright and full of life. She didn’t learn to be a girl — she simply is one, in the same natural way another child might know they love drawing or dancing."

So this child age 6 has decided their future before reaching the age of reason (which is age 7).

The problem here is not rainbows it's the parents.

Sure, in much the same way as sensible solution to prison overcrowding would be to decriminalise everything.

The word "truscum" has come from trans rights circles as a slur against people who believe you have to have real gender dysphoria to be transgender.

It's by no means empirical, but from what I've seen, the kinds of people described as "truscum" very often do realise and accept that they are not the sex they want to be and they recognise it's a dysphoria.

Just because you knew them and were friends with them doesn't mean they weren't still the problem...

And I think cases like this take away from the very real struggles those people have. It has now become some sort of “fad” with the focus being on these daft things rather than how those who geneuinely struggle can be supported.

The boy is still only 6. God knows what age he was when they first started lying to him. This isn't a teenager searching the internet and stumbling on 'trans' and deciding that is the answer to his feelings of disconnect with his body. He's 6. The idea he can change sex and be a girl can only have come from his parents.

It is the parents responsibility to ensure their child understands he can NEVER change sex and that's he is and always will be a boy.

It is his parents responsibility to ensure they help him understand that he will always be male and get him access to mental health provision if he is so distressed about his penis.

It is his parents responsibility to help him understand that some things are just for girls and some things just for boys.

It is his parents responsibility to help him understand that outside of his house and his little friends everyone else sees him as the little boy he is.

It is his parents responsibility to help him understand that the world does not revolve around their son.

Instead they lied and lied and lied to their little boy.

You are right gender dysphoria is a real thing, but instead of helping him work through his distress and feelings so that he could come to terms with reality they decided to make their little boy into a little girl.

Then they act all surprised and blame everyone but themselves when their carefully constructed bubble of nonsense they've surrounded him in pops and reality comes flooding in.

Looks like abusive parenting to me. So yes I'm going to blame his parents.

This. They put ideology above the welfare of their child.

Most people accept that overwhelming gender dysphoria exists. The problem is that a couple of decades ago, the rate in the population was around 0.01%. But now, in some schools among the children, the rate is 1000 times higher. Or even more, maybe 5000 times higher in some schools.

Setting aside the possibility that Zoe Williams has ever made a sensible suggestion in her life - there exist organisations for children that cater to both sexes but there are also ones that cater to only one sex. You are allowed to choose.

You cannot force the pretence that a body belonging to one sex belongs to the other.

@RedToothBrush As I said, I was very close to a family with lived experience of this, 30 years ago.
Just because you didn't hear of these cases that doesn't mean they didn't exist.

however you feel about the supreme courts decision and Girl Guiding’s approach- to have signed your trans male child up to Rainbows after the SC decision was cruel.

Parents being deliberately cruel and setting out to trigger distress in their child to make a political point should not be getting a flowery write up in a national newspaper, they should be getting social services involvement and questions being asked about their ability to parent their child.

Any child who wants to remove his penis needs psychological help, not a rush to 'gender dysphoria'. I would be asking what has happened that a child hates any part of their body and particularly if it's a sex organ.

Exactly. And if the boycott is true, the poor child is now being made to feel responsible for others leaving the group! A completely inappropriate and unnecessary amount of pressure on this kid. This will increase his risk of potential self harm and mental health issues. Its abuse.