To not understand why people recommend Pregnant Then Screwed?

Well they can give an indication in the round as many do often.

I was told I was a silly moo for getting pregnant and they’d get rid of me for it v I am returning from maternity and want to reduce my hours to two 6 hour shifts a week in a place that only does 12 hour shifts for X reason.

Someone can easily give a steer. Much more useful that should have joined a Union…..

@SexRealisticno wise lawyer is going to advise another poster on the applicability of employment law to their specific circumstances on an anonymous forum.

It’s not transphobic to object to teenage girls having to get changed with teenage boys and be exposed to their penis frequently. That’s safeguarding 101.

If Unions don’t support basic safeguarding then they won’t protect other rights of women. They have de-valued women to such an extent it then permeates other areas.

No one is phobic of trans people if they support biological sexed rights. It’s like saying I’m Christian-phobic if I think atheists have rights. Supporting the rights of one group doesn’t make you phobic of the other.

All misogynistic, prioritise males over women’s rights bar FiLiA and WTUF.

Lots of women are now suing their Unions because they failed to support them over basics like privacy & dignity.

PTS are a good initial sense check. If ACAS and PTS don’t know your situation isn’t clear cut.

If you set it out lawyers on here can give advice. Sorry for what you’re going through. It must be stressful.

You get the advice you pay for. Join a union.

Never underestimate the value of joining the union!

I pay i think something like £1.50 a week. But I see it like insurance, hope I never have to use it but will be glad I have it if needed (and actually they have already helped with non pregnancy related employment issues!)

I often being up this exact point when people inevitably say "HR will always side with the company". It's insulting, I've put my neck on the line to challenge some very senior people, and exit them, because of how they've treated employees.

Quite often the best thing for the employer, is to do the best thing by the employee. But as others rightly mention, and as with all professions (but always said about HR without fail) not everyone is that great. Just a shame we're all tarnished by one person's bad experience

So addressing the gender pay gap, maternity rights, equal pensions, flexible working, a paid full year maternity leave, challenging misogyny in the workplace, equality for women with caring responsibilities aren’t important and bear no relation to women’s rights? How very odd. I suspect they mean considerably more to most women than the trans issue

The only 2 of those Unions who truly support women are FiLiA and WTUF. Worth considering joining one of these.

The rest all go along with the mantra ‘trans women are women’ and do not support biological women who believe in biological sex as opposed to gender ideology.

Here you go:

• UNISON: As a large public sector union with three-quarters female members, they focus on fighting the gender pay gap, supporting pregnant women, and implementing menopause policies.
• Unite the Union: Campaigns on "equal pay and pensions justice," ending violence against women (including promoting 'Safe Leave'), and securing strong flexible working rights.
• GMB Union: Actively campaigns for 52 weeks of fully paid maternity leave and fights against discrimination faced by women with caring responsibilities.
• PCS (Public and Commercial Services Union): Focuses on equality of opportunity, with a strong women's forum and policies addressing menopause at work.
• FiLiA Trade Union Women’s Network: A network for women to connect, share resources, and challenge sexist workplace culture.
• Women’s Trade Union Federation (WTUF):Focuses on defending women's sex-based rights, tackling misogyny, and protecting female-only spaces.

Would be useful if you could name the Unions that are ‘women’ friendly. Everyone would benefit from that on MN. All we do hear is the horror stories about the Unions who throw women under the bus and won’t support them, so let share the good Unions please.

Go on. Spit it out. Tell me exactly what I am. Are you too scared? Don't beat around the bush, it's not your usual style.

I don't give a fuck what you think of me, but don't be shy in spelling it out for all to see.

I thought you didn’t give a flying fuck. 🤷‍♀️

Would you like to explain that further? What exactly am I? With your reasons.

ETA: don't flatter yourself that I'm upset. I'm trying to explain something to you which you don't seem able to understand! It's rather frustrating, but I'm not upset!

And you don't try to tell me that protecting women's rights to single sex spaces is transphobic

I didn’t. Extraordinary how upset you’re getting at being described as exactly what you are, incidentally.

Someone who claimed to be the founder of pregnant then screwed was recently on mumsnet touting for business for her new service

And you don't try to tell me that protecting women's rights to single sex spaces is transphobic (a pejorative term however you allege that you intended to use it). Because it isn't, and also isn't discriminatory. If you think that transwomen should be allowed in women's single sex spaces, sports, refuges etc you aren't a feminist, regardless of your protestations.

Maybe you'd like to clarify how refusing men entry to women's spaces is transphobic and discriminatory. Because it's not.

Sandie Peggie and the Darlington nurses, for instance, wanted to be supported in their lawful rights not to be forced to undress in front of a man.

The whole point of rights is that you have them even if you are not ideologically pure enough to meet the gentry left's standards. Not wanting to undress in front of a man isn't 'transphobic' but even if it were, those women should have been able to rely on the support of their union to regain their lawful rights. Unions shouldn't be deciding who to support based on the union's luxury ideology idea of The Right Side Of History, but based on the law. Catch me paying an organisation to protect my rights and then finding out when I need then that they can decide I've not been a nice enough little girl and refuse to help me.

Andrea Dworkin said in Right Wing Women something like: if you believe in women's rights that means rights for all women. Including women you don't like, including women you don't agree with. The unions don't live up to that at all.

I didn’t say it did. I said it doesn’t discriminate against other groups of people. I’ve been a feminist for over 50 years, don’t try and tell me what it is.

Yeah - I mean, I could have done that.

If your version of feminism includes men, then it's not feminism. The clue is in the name!

It’s not your interpretation of feminism @NoWordForFluffy. I don’t subscribe to your version.

'If an organisation is run by a woman, how can it be sexist?'

Oh maaaate.....

I'd say you're failing at that if you think men can be women and should share women's single sex spaces. That's not feminism.

Men are men. Telling them that isn't discriminatory. You can be perfectly non-discriminatory against transpeople, and also believe that they don't change sex.

Discriminatory is denying them the rights that everybody else has. Nobody has the right to access the single sex spaces of the opposite sex and it's disingenuous to suggest they do.

It wasn’t intended as an insult. It’s a descriptor. I’ve been standing up for women’s rights all my adult life without discriminating against other groups of people. And I’m not about to start now.