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To not want to take ‘constructive criticism’ from clinically clean DH

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Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 08:13

Myself and partner share 2 children (8 and 9). We live in a lovely house and share cleaning responsibilities pretty evenly. He works 40+ hours and I work 32. I will do childcare, cooking and on my days off laundry etc. he will help clean up from dinner when home and likes a spotless house which he will do the tweaks to. For example, hoovering, wiping cupboards etc when I’m home.

i would say I’m not unclean but I’m not clinical. The problem is that I suspect that he is on the spectrum and likes things in very particular ways. I do not mind this but recently he has been strongly suggesting that I change my ways of doing things to his preferred method, stating that it is more effective and I am not being as efficient as I could be.

for example in the mornings it’s a bit of a rush. I tend to get up, do breakfasts, hair, feed pet and get out of house. DH will get up, feed himself and leave. I will leave cups etc out on side and when I get back before him, load into dishwasher. He gets frustrated that everything is not completely clean before we leave in the morning because he would do it much more efficient. It’s like this with most things, loading dishwasher, putting items in cupboard etc. to the point that I feel worried doing these things wrong when they’re happening.

i have tried navigating these conversations where I have explained that I am not him so will not do everything the exact same, but he cannot fathom it and is very frustrated that I will not take ‘constructive critism’ as he is trying to better my life. How on earth do I navigate these things?

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sittingonabeach · 27/03/2026 12:34

Looks like OP does all the cooking so surely it’s only her who should be bothered how the pots, spoons etc are stored

StationJack · 27/03/2026 12:30

@FiatLuxAdAstra , she doesn't. She tidies up but it's not as tidy as he'd like. She's doing most of the work.

usedtobeaylis · 27/03/2026 12:28

FiatLuxAdAstra · 27/03/2026 12:24

Stacking big pots on little pots is stupid. You end up with pots falling out of cupboards, or if a drawer getting the drawer stuck.

Who gives a fuck though? The OP is the one that uses the pots and does the cooking so who cares how they're stacked? You might as well be talking about how my underwear drawer is arranged for all the actual relevance of it.

sittingonabeach · 27/03/2026 12:28

@FiatLuxAdAstra shock, horror he has to do the washing up after OP has cooked the dinner for him, poor little man

usedtobeaylis · 27/03/2026 12:27

FiatLuxAdAstra · 27/03/2026 12:22

Quite. He cleans the house every night-washing up from second dinner, hoovering, wiping down and so on and every morning after breakfast OP leaves it in a state with dirty dishes sitting on the counter right by the dishwasher.

She puts clean spoons and pots in the wrong cupboards.

I can well imagine how frustrating it is to clean a house every evening after work and then come home to a bombsite and your partner who works part time mind you doesn’t want to hear can you please put the spoons away with the other spoons?

Edited

He cleans up after the second dinner the OP has made and everything else is tweaks. She has already spent the evening making two dinners and doing ALL the childcare. She does all the cooking. She cleans and does laundry on her 'days off' despite them already being 'even' before she does that. There's no indication that they split anything equally at all.

PuppyMonkey · 27/03/2026 12:27

I tend to get up, do breakfasts, hair, feed pet and get out of house. DH will get up, feed himself and leave.

I’d be constructively suggesting he needs to contribute more to the morning routine. Leave him a spreadsheet. Sounds like he’d love that bit of inspiration to improve his ways. Wink Hmm

Skippinglightly · 27/03/2026 12:27

nietzscheanvibe · 27/03/2026 08:23

This.

(and I'm the ND spouse in this scenario).

Agree. It won’t necessarily work though, things have got worse as my husband has got older, particularly since he retired. We are now at a point where we are talking about buying two semis next door to each other as I can no longer stand being constantly managed ie nitpicked, in the kitchen.

FiatLuxAdAstra · 27/03/2026 12:25

looselegs · 27/03/2026 12:23

My husband is the same..
I say to him " It's my house too and I'm a grown up. If I want to leave a cup on the side, I will. If you have an issue with it then that's your problem "
Most of the time, he'll put the cup in the dishwasher, then tell me he's done it. I don't thank him- I just remind him that I didn't ask him to do that, he took it upon himself to do it and I would have done it later....

You sound just like the husband in this marriage.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/she-divorced-me-i-left-dishes-by-the-sink_b_9055288

She Divorced Me Because I Left Dishes By The Sink

It wasn’t a big deal to me when I was married. But it was a big deal to her.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/she-divorced-me-i-left-dishes-by-the-sink_b_9055288

ERthree · 27/03/2026 12:24

Write a list of absolutely everything you do in the morning, then write a list of exactly what he does and present him with it. Sometimes when things are in black and white they hit home.

FiatLuxAdAstra · 27/03/2026 12:24

usedtobeaylis · 27/03/2026 12:18

Not to mention the fact that the OP is the one actually using the pots from the cupboard and doesn't give a shit how they're arranged.

Stacking big pots on little pots is stupid. You end up with pots falling out of cupboards, or if a drawer getting the drawer stuck.

looselegs · 27/03/2026 12:23

AggroPotato · 27/03/2026 08:17

You need to be very blunt and clear, no ambiguity.

"I am not interested in your feedback. I am not your employee. This is my home too and I will do things in my own way."

I have a ND spouse who can be a bit self absorbed so I do get it. Clarity and consistency, broken record technique. Don't expect him to understand your point of view, just tell him straight and repeat until he gets it.

My husband is the same..
I say to him " It's my house too and I'm a grown up. If I want to leave a cup on the side, I will. If you have an issue with it then that's your problem "
Most of the time, he'll put the cup in the dishwasher, then tell me he's done it. I don't thank him- I just remind him that I didn't ask him to do that, he took it upon himself to do it and I would have done it later....

Laura95167 · 27/03/2026 12:22

He can ask you to do it your way or he can do it his.

Neither approach is terrible, but expecting you to do a task his way id unreasonable

FiatLuxAdAstra · 27/03/2026 12:22

usedtobeaylis · 27/03/2026 12:17

Weaponised incompetence clearly doesn't apply to the person who is doing all the actual cleaning and tidying 👏

Quite. He cleans the house every night-washing up from second dinner, hoovering, wiping down and so on and every morning after breakfast OP leaves it in a state with dirty dishes sitting on the counter right by the dishwasher.

She puts clean spoons and pots in the wrong cupboards.

I can well imagine how frustrating it is to clean a house every evening after work and then come home to a bombsite and your partner who works part time mind you doesn’t want to hear can you please put the spoons away with the other spoons?

MrsLizzieDarcy · 27/03/2026 12:20

Don't engage with it. DH is getting worse with age, and he's "allowed" to have things arranged how he likes it in his bedroom/shed/garage but he's not allowed to re-arrange the kitchen (he won't cook) or other rooms that are shared spaces. He was making my life a misery - and stepping back from his rules/routines/rituals was the best course of action. He was so bad at one stage that he was throwing unopened mail (mine!), throwing away shampoo if I had more than one bottle in the bathroom... it was horrible to live with, and I had to hide my belongings so he couldn't dispose of them. What irritates me the most though is that he can completely ignore a pile of laundry that needs sorting/putting away....

usedtobeaylis · 27/03/2026 12:18

Not to mention the fact that the OP is the one actually using the pots from the cupboard and doesn't give a shit how they're arranged.

usedtobeaylis · 27/03/2026 12:17

FiatLuxAdAstra · 27/03/2026 12:15

Agreed. And putting things away in the wrong cupboards, stacking big pots on top of small pots for years would all be decried as weaponised incompetence.

I don’t think it is ND or OCD unreasonable or “clinical” to expect dirty dishes put in the dishwasher and not left lying directly above said dishwasher or that the spoons would be put away with the other spoons.

Edited

Weaponised incompetence clearly doesn't apply to the person who is doing all the actual cleaning and tidying 👏

FiatLuxAdAstra · 27/03/2026 12:15

BIossomtoes · 27/03/2026 11:20

This thread is an absolute joke. If it had been a woman complaining about her husband not loading the dishwasher and leaving dirty pots all over the kitchen the response would be the complete opposite.

Agreed. And putting things away in the wrong cupboards, stacking big pots on top of small pots for years would all be decried as weaponised incompetence.

I don’t think it is ND or OCD unreasonable or “clinical” to expect dirty dishes put in the dishwasher and not left lying directly above said dishwasher or that the spoons would be put away with the other spoons.

Elanol · 27/03/2026 12:14

AggroPotato · 27/03/2026 08:17

You need to be very blunt and clear, no ambiguity.

"I am not interested in your feedback. I am not your employee. This is my home too and I will do things in my own way."

I have a ND spouse who can be a bit self absorbed so I do get it. Clarity and consistency, broken record technique. Don't expect him to understand your point of view, just tell him straight and repeat until he gets it.

OP doesn't have an ND spouse.

She told us she 'suspects' he is on the spectrum. This is to help strengthen her argument that his higher standards are unreasonable and that hers are fine. Her standards are fine. She didn't need to boost it with made up shit about her DH.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 27/03/2026 12:09

I tend to let him get on with it, and tell him to do it his way instead of mine if it's not good enough.

He then wonders why he feels so burnt out and he is getting high blood pressure..! 😒

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 27/03/2026 12:08

Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 08:13

Myself and partner share 2 children (8 and 9). We live in a lovely house and share cleaning responsibilities pretty evenly. He works 40+ hours and I work 32. I will do childcare, cooking and on my days off laundry etc. he will help clean up from dinner when home and likes a spotless house which he will do the tweaks to. For example, hoovering, wiping cupboards etc when I’m home.

i would say I’m not unclean but I’m not clinical. The problem is that I suspect that he is on the spectrum and likes things in very particular ways. I do not mind this but recently he has been strongly suggesting that I change my ways of doing things to his preferred method, stating that it is more effective and I am not being as efficient as I could be.

for example in the mornings it’s a bit of a rush. I tend to get up, do breakfasts, hair, feed pet and get out of house. DH will get up, feed himself and leave. I will leave cups etc out on side and when I get back before him, load into dishwasher. He gets frustrated that everything is not completely clean before we leave in the morning because he would do it much more efficient. It’s like this with most things, loading dishwasher, putting items in cupboard etc. to the point that I feel worried doing these things wrong when they’re happening.

i have tried navigating these conversations where I have explained that I am not him so will not do everything the exact same, but he cannot fathom it and is very frustrated that I will not take ‘constructive critism’ as he is trying to better my life. How on earth do I navigate these things?

My DH is probaby on the spectrum too, and has very OCD type ways of doing things, telling me that he's had "years of doing it those ways," so it's probably better than mine. 😳😒 He is quite fussy with how he hangs up clothes, or stacks the washing up, for example, and my ADHD type methods are too chaotic for him, so he just likes to comment (and makes me feel incompetent).

No advice on any of this I'm afraid, just solidarity. 😳😢

Rubbleonthedouble2 · 27/03/2026 12:07

He is welcome to take a couple of weeks off work and be the primary parent and cleaner and see how he fares. It's easy being a backseat driver when you're not the one doing the heavy lifting!

SanctusInDistress · 27/03/2026 11:56

How about he does it himself then?!

PinkArt · 27/03/2026 11:51

FiatLuxAdAstra · 27/03/2026 10:08

Are we reading the same posts?
OP works 32 hours to his 40 so of course she has 8hrs per week of household chores to do before they are even. Why should he do half when she only works part time? Plus OP has said he does all the actual cleaning while she does kids, laundry and cooking,

Secondly, leaving dirty cups all day on the countertop when it takes two minutes tops to rinse and put in the dishwasher is indefensible. It’s disgusting. It attracts pests into the house.

Thirdly, putting clean spoons away in the wrong cupboards after living together for at least 9 yrs (you have a 6 and 8 yo together) sounds like weaponised incompetence to me. You know where they go, it takes just as much time and energy to put things away where they are not supposed to go as it does to put them in the usual agreed on place in the kitchen.

If you’re running around like a headless chicken, then it sounds like you’re procrastinating until the last minute and you are not being efficient.

Why cook TWO dinners? That’s the epitome of inefficient. Cook one dinner and save back yours and his to warm up for later.

If you can’t trust that your husband’s advice on how to be a bit more organised and efficient is well intentioned, then what is the point of being in a relationship? Otherwise, you are simply being contrary for the sake of it.

'I get home from work with children at 6.30pm and get dinner ready and do bedtimes and showers for 7.45. I tidy up for when DH comes home at 8pm.'
1.5 hours x 5 days = 7.5 hours. That's how her 'part time' hours equal his - in parenting their children between getting home and their bedtimes. Beyond the additional parenting she is doing, they should therefore have equal time for house shit.
You've just done exactly what the OP's husband has been doing here in criticising her 'work' in the household. And everyone's pretty much agreed that the husband sounds like a bit of a dick.

ConstanzeMozart · 27/03/2026 11:51

Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 08:13

Myself and partner share 2 children (8 and 9). We live in a lovely house and share cleaning responsibilities pretty evenly. He works 40+ hours and I work 32. I will do childcare, cooking and on my days off laundry etc. he will help clean up from dinner when home and likes a spotless house which he will do the tweaks to. For example, hoovering, wiping cupboards etc when I’m home.

i would say I’m not unclean but I’m not clinical. The problem is that I suspect that he is on the spectrum and likes things in very particular ways. I do not mind this but recently he has been strongly suggesting that I change my ways of doing things to his preferred method, stating that it is more effective and I am not being as efficient as I could be.

for example in the mornings it’s a bit of a rush. I tend to get up, do breakfasts, hair, feed pet and get out of house. DH will get up, feed himself and leave. I will leave cups etc out on side and when I get back before him, load into dishwasher. He gets frustrated that everything is not completely clean before we leave in the morning because he would do it much more efficient. It’s like this with most things, loading dishwasher, putting items in cupboard etc. to the point that I feel worried doing these things wrong when they’re happening.

i have tried navigating these conversations where I have explained that I am not him so will not do everything the exact same, but he cannot fathom it and is very frustrated that I will not take ‘constructive critism’ as he is trying to better my life. How on earth do I navigate these things?

He gets frustrated that everything is not completely clean before we leave in the morning because he would do it much more efficient.
Well he is welcome to do it then. Why does he not?

RandomMess · 27/03/2026 11:48

Tell him he needs to get up earlier to feed the pet and prepare breakfast for everyone, he can get the kids up and down for breakfast and clear up before he leaves at 7.40 then you will get the DC dressed and out the door with you for 8.10am.