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To not want to take ‘constructive criticism’ from clinically clean DH

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Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 08:13

Myself and partner share 2 children (8 and 9). We live in a lovely house and share cleaning responsibilities pretty evenly. He works 40+ hours and I work 32. I will do childcare, cooking and on my days off laundry etc. he will help clean up from dinner when home and likes a spotless house which he will do the tweaks to. For example, hoovering, wiping cupboards etc when I’m home.

i would say I’m not unclean but I’m not clinical. The problem is that I suspect that he is on the spectrum and likes things in very particular ways. I do not mind this but recently he has been strongly suggesting that I change my ways of doing things to his preferred method, stating that it is more effective and I am not being as efficient as I could be.

for example in the mornings it’s a bit of a rush. I tend to get up, do breakfasts, hair, feed pet and get out of house. DH will get up, feed himself and leave. I will leave cups etc out on side and when I get back before him, load into dishwasher. He gets frustrated that everything is not completely clean before we leave in the morning because he would do it much more efficient. It’s like this with most things, loading dishwasher, putting items in cupboard etc. to the point that I feel worried doing these things wrong when they’re happening.

i have tried navigating these conversations where I have explained that I am not him so will not do everything the exact same, but he cannot fathom it and is very frustrated that I will not take ‘constructive critism’ as he is trying to better my life. How on earth do I navigate these things?

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Nogimachi · 28/03/2026 18:02

In a marriage, neither party gets to critique the other’s way of doing chores - that’s a recipe for disharmony. Each party gets to do an equal amount of the chores, unless there’s a big discrepancy in the time spent out of the house doing paid work that prevents this.
So here, if he wants it done a certain way, he does it. Your morning routine can certainly be split more evenly between the two of you. Either he does another task that needs doing to free you up the time or the answer is that you don’t have time to load the dishwasher so can he do it when he gets in.

It may be he needs to properly u derstand just how much you are doing each morning - perhaps suggest you swap roles for 5 days as you are ill and need to rest longer/need to work away etc..

StationJack · 27/03/2026 21:11

Give him some constructive criticism.

Dearg · 27/03/2026 21:08

Girrafffees87832 · 27/03/2026 21:02

He's an arsehole. I don't know how you've lasted this long.

Absolutely.

Honestly , why on earth do you put up with this shit?

Even if he is neurodiverse, that’s not an excuse to behave like this. why does his pseudo-anxiety, which is really control, dictate what happens in your home?

You are not a slob. You are a hard working, busy mum, who prioritises. Honestly, get him telt as my granny would have said.

Girrafffees87832 · 27/03/2026 21:02

He's an arsehole. I don't know how you've lasted this long.

Plumblossomsbloom · 27/03/2026 20:48

i have tried navigating these conversations where I have explained that I am not him so will not do everything the exact same, but he cannot fathom it and is very frustrated that I will not take ‘constructive critism’ as he is trying to better my life. How on earth do I navigate these things?

I'd be telling him that I'm not his employee. Stating I didn't ask for, don't want and won't be taking constructive criticism from him. So to STFU and if he thinks my response is rude, he needs to take a look at his sense of entitlement. I'd be pointing out that it's not ok to treat me, his wife, as if I'm a project for him to work on. That this is itself rude and I don't owe rude people politeness. If he ever mentioned it again it would lead to a row because there's no way I'd tolerate this behaviour from him. If it didn't stop I'd have to divorce him.

The fact you're worried about his reactions to you doing ordinary things shows this situation is already veering into coercive control territory. It's not wrong to nip it in the bud or if that isn't possible, to leave him due to it. It would be wrong to gaslight yourself that things "aren't that bad" and to remain with him, being made to feel anxious in your own home even when he isn't there.

The cause of his behaviour is irrelevant. It's a him problem so he needs to fix it (and not to attempt to do that by expecting you to pander to his expectations). His worries are his and he needs to find a solution that comes from him and doesn't involve you changing yourself. If he doesn't like you as you are, then he doesn't like you.

If you were slovenly or a gambler or a cheat, then asking for and expecting you to change isn't unreasonable. But you're not acting in any kind of unreasonable manner within this marriage, so he has no business expecting you to change. He is the unreasonable one, he is the one who needs to change, by ceasing trying to control you. If he can't see that then you don't have a cleaning problem, you have a husband problem.

Woodfiresareamazing · 27/03/2026 20:02

Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 17:40

He will occasionally come home for lunch when he has a site visit locally. Otherwise, he is none the wiser but knows that I do it

Oh my god, OP, that's insane! He's moaning at you about a few things left on the side after breakfast EVEN THOUGH HE DOESN'T SEE THEM MOST OF THE TIME!! HE JUST 'KNOWS' THEY'RE THERE!.

You must realise that this is totally unreasonable?

Honestly, this is no way for you to live. Or your DC.

You have a choice.

Your DC won't.

They are going to have his micromanaging obsessive 'do it my way' tidying inflicted on them as they get older. They will be around him more, they'll leave things out, they'll maybe be a bit arsey with him - imagine how horrendous life in your house is going to be?

OP, you need to really get in touch with your anger over this, and start expressing it.

Personally, I would tell him to fuck right off. And when he got there, he could fuck off some more.

Woodfiresareamazing · 27/03/2026 19:49

Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 17:42

I think I’d get a sharp scoff if I tried to insinuate that I did more. I’m not very confrontational, not from my own choice but I kind of freeze in conflict

Why would you get a sharp scoff OP?

He works 40+ hours outside the home + clears up after adults dinner .5x5 = 2.5.
Total = 42.5.

You work 32 hours outside the home.
Plus you do probably 3.5 hrs x 5 inside the home, which is another 17.5. Total = 49.5

Then whatever happens at weekends (childcare/chores/cooking).

He's really not doing more than you.

Scoff back.

PinkArt · 27/03/2026 19:45

Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 17:39

He wants the wooden spoons in the cutlery drawer as we use them every day, we also have a utensil drawer for things like spatulas, tongs, scales etc. sometimes when I’ve got a handful of other things I tend to just put them all in the utensil draw if I’m not paying attention 😅

Do 'we' use them every day, or as the only one cooking do you 'you' use them every day? If he's not cooking it's fuck all to do with him where you put the spoons that you use.
Honestly he can just fuck right off. Fuck off, fuck off, FUCK OFF! He isn't your boss and even if he was this miserable, nitpicking, demoralising, micromanaging, pointless shit would make him a terrible boss.
Gather your strength, start telling him no and really think about if this is how you want to live because it sounds horrific.

StationJack · 27/03/2026 19:35

@wracky , the wooden spoons have a place. OP's DH wants to change where they are.

XP decided to rearrange the cutlery drawer in my house. I unarranged it immediately. I no longer live with the cocklodging shit.

wracky · 27/03/2026 19:30

StationJack · 27/03/2026 17:55

Wooden spoons are utensils not cutlery.

You're not wrong but ultimately wooden spoons go in the wooden spoon place.

Apologies if I have skipped an update on this but surely DH could completely avoid this being an issue if he just emptied the DW every morning rather than leaving it to you OP. Then it would be trivial for you to put the breakfast plates straight into the empty DW. Two birds killed with one stone, job's a good'un. If it's such a tiny trivial job to empty the DW (while also juggling kids, hair, breakfast, uniforms, teeth etc) why isn't he JFDI?

sittingonabeach · 27/03/2026 19:12

Does he genuinely think he does more @Pigsinbl4nkets12345

You’ve listed what you do for the household, what does he do? Does he need to get home so late if there are times he can come home at lunchtime?

sittingonabeach · 27/03/2026 19:10

I knew he would be wanting the spoons in the wrong place! Wooden spoons are utensils not cutlery

How often does he use utensils @Pigsinbl4nkets12345

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 27/03/2026 18:50

Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 17:42

I think I’d get a sharp scoff if I tried to insinuate that I did more. I’m not very confrontational, not from my own choice but I kind of freeze in conflict

But that "sharp scoff" is so unfair.

All it means is that you are not allowed to defend yourself against these stupid allegations. Because he dismisses what you say before you even start really.
God. How very dare you put him right and say that you do more.

You do, do more!!!

And by god that "scoff" is working. Because it makes you freeze up. That says to me that he employs that technique every time.
And it means that you cannot discuss anything with him because it will be dismissed

What a damn bully.

I suppose you could try couples counselling so that this could be show to him by a third party. But he'd probably scoff at that too.

StationJack · 27/03/2026 17:55

Wooden spoons are utensils not cutlery.

Chilly80 · 27/03/2026 17:53

Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 17:42

I think I’d get a sharp scoff if I tried to insinuate that I did more. I’m not very confrontational, not from my own choice but I kind of freeze in conflict

But you do do more in the morning. Suggest you swap morning routines one day.

BudgetBuster · 27/03/2026 17:51

Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 17:40

He will occasionally come home for lunch when he has a site visit locally. Otherwise, he is none the wiser but knows that I do it

So he comes home from work for lunch... and doesn't sort it himself?

Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 17:42

ishouldbeoverit · 27/03/2026 16:19

Yes! Please write it all down for him ... your very long list of morning 'musts' versus his. Then tell him to pull his weight or fuck off.

I think I’d get a sharp scoff if I tried to insinuate that I did more. I’m not very confrontational, not from my own choice but I kind of freeze in conflict

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Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 17:40

BudgetBuster · 27/03/2026 16:39

This is the bit I'm struggling to understand too.
If it's tidied up before he gets back, he can't possibly know about it? Unless of course... teh OP is lying and it isn't tided away.

I always don't see how the kids can't be responsible for popping a bowl or plate into the dishwasher themselves.

He will occasionally come home for lunch when he has a site visit locally. Otherwise, he is none the wiser but knows that I do it

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Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 17:39

blackpooolrock · 27/03/2026 17:29

pots and pans can only go one way when put away? surely everyone stacks pots in order of size?

And how can you put spoons in the wrong cupboard after having a kitchen set out as you want it for 9 years? surely everyone has a cutlery drawer they keep cutlery in or if they don't things like wooden spoons all go together? I don't understand how someone could forget where things go after 9 years.

He wants the wooden spoons in the cutlery drawer as we use them every day, we also have a utensil drawer for things like spatulas, tongs, scales etc. sometimes when I’ve got a handful of other things I tend to just put them all in the utensil draw if I’m not paying attention 😅

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sittingonabeach · 27/03/2026 17:36

@blackpooolrock maybe DH thinks they should go in a different cupboard to what OP does, even though he doesn't seem to do any cooking. Same with pans. Maybe they aren't stacked and sometimes OP just puts a pan away without rearranging the other pans, and so when she comes to take a different pan out she may have to move another pan, so not as efficient. But again she is the one cooking, so if it doesn't bother her, not a problem.

DH moved into my home when we first got together. He had to accept the kitchen layout even though might not be how he would have had it. When we moved in to a new house, he arranged the kitchen cupboards more to his liking, but he then took on most of the cooking duties so that was fine in my eyes.

blackpooolrock · 27/03/2026 17:29

Pigsinbl4nkets12345 · 27/03/2026 08:48

We have discussed the fact that I don’t think his approach is necessarily helpful a number of times in detail and he is convinced that he is looking out for my best interests and to make my life run smoother. The general consensus is that I’m a bit uptight and very defensive but honestly the constant running commentary is quite grating. He has stopped mentioning so much because he see’s that some things such as not putting the pans from largest to smallest occasionally or putting the wooden spoons in the wrong cupboard, is him being particular but the rest he is convinced he needs to say for the betterment of myself.

pots and pans can only go one way when put away? surely everyone stacks pots in order of size?

And how can you put spoons in the wrong cupboard after having a kitchen set out as you want it for 9 years? surely everyone has a cutlery drawer they keep cutlery in or if they don't things like wooden spoons all go together? I don't understand how someone could forget where things go after 9 years.

OhGraciousMe · 27/03/2026 16:39

Life is too short to put up with this.

BudgetBuster · 27/03/2026 16:39

likelysuspect · 27/03/2026 16:26

I thought she said he leaves before her

But given he gets back home after her Im not sure how he knows or sees the stuff left out

This is the bit I'm struggling to understand too.
If it's tidied up before he gets back, he can't possibly know about it? Unless of course... teh OP is lying and it isn't tided away.

I always don't see how the kids can't be responsible for popping a bowl or plate into the dishwasher themselves.

Besidemyselfwithworry · 27/03/2026 16:31

hearts1989g · 27/03/2026 08:17

if he thinks he can do it better or his way is better or preferred then let him do it. Simple as. Then see where you land.

This
he sounds controlling never mind on the spectrum

Emmz1510 · 27/03/2026 16:27

Tell him that he doesn’t get to criticise and impose his standards on you if he doesn’t fully pitch in.
‘I don’t have time to load the dishwasher before we leave in the morning. If you want it done that way then feel free to do it. Otherwise it will wait till I get home’.