AIBU to think the Adam male contraceptive implant could be beneficial if they can develop it without bad side effects?

I think the same of men who rely on women for hormonal contraception without knowing them well. I will be the first to say that I am awful at taking tablets at regular intervals for a full course. Anyone who knows me well knows that.

It isn't about trust just in the sense of lying, it's also about knowing their adherence to things like medication.

Yes of course. There are plenty of wonderful guys out there, but its not cynical or bitter or anything else to point out that in reality, this is one area where we cannot achieve an equal standing. I agree there are some 'advantages' fkr women in that they have the bodily autonomy AFTER a pregnancy occurs and mens is capped at the point of ejaculation but that is not a secret. Both sexes should protect themselves in terms of fertility until they are as reasonably sure as they can be of their partner's integrity. That absolutely can include this, but id be surprised if any woman relied on it outwith a very serious and committed LTR.

How can men get vasectomies then?

And why would any company invest money in developing this if they didn't think it would get approved?

I would trust my dh with is same way like he trusts me with pills. 🤷
Neither of us want kids, and he is decent enough he wouldn't abscond (he wouldn't have to though as I have options "If") . Plus his family would bully the shit out of him if he did

Have you ever trusted a man?

But condoms are not 100% effective. And when they fail, the consequences of that are out of their control. That is not true for women.

Anything that allows a human being of either sex to control their fertility has to be a good thing surely?

Yes sure.. I was responding to the poster who said this somehow gave men equality or parity with women and more control. This is one area where the biological reality of pregnancy means there cannot be a level playing field. Men of course are more than welcome to double up and take whatever measures they like but Id be amazed if any woman trusted it alone.

But those options are not very palatable and reduce sexual enjoyment. Why isn't it a good thing for men to have an alternative option, just as woman have multiple options?

No one is suggesting that this should be instead of women having a range of contraceptive options available to them, its as well as.

Men can use the implant if they don't wish to father a child, just as women can continue to use one of a wide range of contraceptives it they don't want to get pregnant.

Abstinence would go down well in LTR, would it...
Condoms being introduced later in LTR would also raise eyebrows

And men get out of CMS all the time. Its pathetic.

No...men can absolutely control their own fertility..its called abstinence and condoms.

No the 1 im thinking of was released around 2020 and it was a much larger study with more men and questions it could be the expanded 1 that article talks about (that article is from 2015). I'll look for it this evening when im back home.

It’s not an either-or! And this particular method would not work well for women. Fallopian tubes are rather inaccessible compared to sperm ducts, and blocking a fallopian tube like this might increase the risk of ectopic pregnancies

I think this a good thing, and will give couples more contraceptive options without adding more of the responsibility to women to take sole responsibility for it

You'd be silly to not take your own precautions during a ONS or fling, but in a long-term relationship you do eventually have to trust the other person for it to work.

Yes, plenty of women have had that trust betrayed. But I've still gone through life trusting that DH isn't emptying our bank account to fund gambling or coke; that he is acting in our children's best interests; that he isn't cheating on me every time he goes on a business trip. This is just something else I'd have to take on trust, I can't see how human relationships can work any other way.

I'd certainly have gone for this if it worked and the side effects aren't too bad.

It wouldn't be a replacement for condoms for me, not early in a relationship anyway, because of the STD risk, but I'd certainly double up. DD turned up 11 months into my relationship with DP, despite both condoms and the pill, so an additional form of contraception really couldn't hurt!

The surgery aspect of it does make me slightly wary I'll admit. I've not had a vasectomy due to the fact that my Dad is one of the unlucky ones who has suffered lifelong pain following his, so I'd need some assurance that that's not a risk with this procedure.

The non-hormonal nature of it is a definite plus though.

It may not be that widespread but it’s more than you think

https://www.sciencefocus.com/qanda/men-discovering-their-children-arent-theirs-biologically

I agree with this. Anecdotally, in my experience, the only "accidental" pregnancies in my friendship group have happened in couples where the woman wanted a child and the man didn't and the women were taking the pill. Male contraception (that doesn't lessen sexual enjoyment like condoms) would stop these "accidents" from happening. Couples who want and plan babies will still do so.

This is also true of the female pill though, and is not a reason not to develop it.

I think it would be great if "accidental path to pregnancy" would close tbh... Children should be planned. Men still want to have families in general from my experience.

It's very common on MN to say that men need to take contraceptive responsibility. Well, hopefully this will be a viable option. I would trust DH with making sure the implant gets changed when needed. Would be great to have a pill break without having to talk a surgery - vasectomy

You're never going to be able to adjust hormones without having variable side effects.