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Missiles can reach UK say Iran

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Spinningnewbie · 26/03/2026 08:48

Just heard this in live interview with Defence Secretary.
Apparently they can reach us in 4 hours.
Are they lying??

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MissConductUS · 26/03/2026 18:50

AStonedRose · 26/03/2026 18:45

It's just as well there's no ICBMs to shoot down then.

However, even if I'm wrong and there are, as others have pointed out, they're unlikely to be able to carry a significant payload. They're not likely to be any use to harm any strategic military sites in the UK, so at most they could be used as a weapon of terror.

I don't want to shit anyone up, but if the Iranian regime wants to harm or frighten UK civilians, common-or-garden acts of terrorism (i'm sure I don't need to descrive the means) would be many times more impactful and cost-effective. it would also have plausible deniability. Were it to target eg. London with a limited arsenal of long-range missiles, the UK (and US and Israeli) military would make short work of flattening Tehran. Iran knows this.

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By "flattening Tehran", do you mean using a nuclear weapon? Short of that, I'm not clear on how the UK military would accomplish that mission.

The USN, USAF, and IAF have been bombing Tehran for three weeks without flattening it. The RAF phased out heavy or strategic bombers in the 1980s to save money and has nothing comparable to the B1, B2 or B52 aircraft.

Edited to add that if Iran or anyone else wanted to cause maximum damage to the UK's military infrastructure and capabilities with conventional missiles, they'd target GCHQ, MoD headquarters, and air bases. Lots of civilian targets like natural gas terminals, communications nodes, and power plants are also highly vulnerable to conventional missile attacks.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 26/03/2026 18:48

This is Israeli propaganda designed to sway public opinion to support their “war”.

If the UK participated we would become a target. By hosting US murderplanes we already are participating and I would urge the government to shut that down immediately.

Pedallleur · 26/03/2026 18:48

notimagain · 26/03/2026 18:40

Probably for clarity it's worth pointing out the amount of territory overflown isn't really relevant for a ballistic missile of significant range.

That's because for most of the arc of flight it's well above the reach of any ground based missile systems....something on a 4000 km trip will be multiple hundred if not > 1000 km up at mid point of flight...(haven't checked the exact numbers so open to correction).

That's why most SAM systems that can engage these things tend to intercept them in the final stages of flight when they are heading back down..which means the SAM systems have to be based relatively near potential targets....Or in other words it would be tough to impossible for, say, a NATO Patriot system in Poland to intercept an Iranian ballistic missile heading for, say, Paris or London...

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Was thinking more land based cruise missile. Easier for these countries to develop nerve agents. Think of Salisbury. A small bottle could shut down a large city and is deniable.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 26/03/2026 18:48

This is Israeli propaganda designed to sway public opinion to support their “war”.

AStonedRose · 26/03/2026 18:45

MissConductUS · 26/03/2026 18:34

Correct, and rather than being concentrated on missile defense, the savings from decades of defense spending cuts have gone to non-defense spending.

Edited

It's just as well there's no ICBMs to shoot down then.

However, even if I'm wrong and there are, as others have pointed out, they're unlikely to be able to carry a significant payload. They're not likely to be any use to harm any strategic military sites in the UK, so at most they could be used as a weapon of terror.

I don't want to shit anyone up, but if the Iranian regime wants to harm or frighten UK civilians, common-or-garden acts of terrorism (i'm sure I don't need to descrive the means) would be many times more impactful and cost-effective. it would also have plausible deniability. Were it to target eg. London with a limited arsenal of long-range missiles, the UK (and US and Israeli) military would make short work of flattening Tehran. Iran knows this.

notimagain · 26/03/2026 18:40

Pedallleur · 26/03/2026 18:25

Also ICBM don't take 4 hours to reach their target. An Iranian missile would have to fly over lots of airspace.

Probably for clarity it's worth pointing out the amount of territory overflown isn't really relevant for a ballistic missile of significant range.

That's because for most of the arc of flight it's well above the reach of any ground based missile systems....something on a 4000 km trip will be multiple hundred if not > 1000 km up at mid point of flight...(haven't checked the exact numbers so open to correction).

That's why most SAM systems that can engage these things tend to intercept them in the final stages of flight when they are heading back down..which means the SAM systems have to be based relatively near potential targets....Or in other words it would be tough to impossible for, say, a NATO Patriot system in Poland to intercept an Iranian ballistic missile heading for, say, Paris or London...

MissConductUS · 26/03/2026 18:34

notimagain · 26/03/2026 18:23

Nope....in the western world there are a tiny handful of surface to air missile systems that have a demonstrated capability to engage ballistic missiles in flight, namely the SM-3/THAAD, and some variants of the Patriot system,

The UK has none of those.

Edited

Correct, and rather than being concentrated on missile defense, the savings from decades of defense spending cuts have gone to non-defense spending.

Pedallleur · 26/03/2026 18:25

RedTagAlan · 26/03/2026 11:46

Yup. It's good old fashioned physics. To get that sort of range you are into ICBM territory. And they are very difficult and very expensive to do. And for a non nuke payload, it's pretty much pointless.

Also ICBM don't take 4 hours to reach their target. An Iranian missile would have to fly over lots of airspace.

notimagain · 26/03/2026 18:23

Cheese55 · 26/03/2026 17:55

All of our defence is now concentrated on this rather than a ground army, so we probably do.

Nope....in the western world there are a tiny handful of surface to air missile systems that have a demonstrated capability to engage ballistic missiles in flight, namely the SM-3/THAAD, and some variants of the Patriot system,

The UK has none of those.

AStonedRose · 26/03/2026 18:17

DuchessofStaffordshire · 26/03/2026 18:09

And what of the Palestinians in the West Bank?

No, it killed tens of thousands of children.

there were probably some terrorists in there too. The thing is, bombing a hospital (for example) is a fairly blunt in instrument. And collateral damage is inevitable in war, isn’t it?

AStonedRose · 26/03/2026 18:17

DuchessofStaffordshire · 26/03/2026 18:09

And what of the Palestinians in the West Bank?

No, it killed tens of thousands of children.

there were probably some terrorists in there too. The thing is, bombing a hospital (for example) is a fairly blunt in instrument. And collateral damage is inevitable in war, isn’t it?

DuchessofStaffordshire · 26/03/2026 18:09

Gloriia · 26/03/2026 16:14

Israel obliterated the terrorists in gaza.

And what of the Palestinians in the West Bank?

Stirabout · 26/03/2026 18:02

Labelledelune · 26/03/2026 17:58

I thought because they had hired missiles that reached a certain destination that it could also reach us. I just hope the Persian people get the freedom they want from a tyrannical regime.

What do you mean by hired missiles?
What news outlet is this news of long range missiles from ?

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 18:01

Cheese55 · 26/03/2026 17:55

All of our defence is now concentrated on this rather than a ground army, so we probably do.

What we have is outlined below. We do have a gap in anti ballistic defence atm

Labelledelune · 26/03/2026 17:58

AStonedRose · 26/03/2026 17:51

Fgs. They don’t exist. There’s zero evidence except for a statement from the Israeli government, and the very weird and suspect Diego Garcia turn of events.

its dodgy dossiers, David Kelly etc all over again. It’s so obvious and to be fair most people are seeing through it

Edited

I thought because they had hired missiles that reached a certain destination that it could also reach us. I just hope the Persian people get the freedom they want from a tyrannical regime.

Labelledelune · 26/03/2026 17:56

Cheese55 · 26/03/2026 17:55

All of our defence is now concentrated on this rather than a ground army, so we probably do.

I hope so but from what I’ve been reading our defences are not good.

Cheese55 · 26/03/2026 17:55

Labelledelune · 26/03/2026 17:46

I don’t think we’ve got enough weapons to shoot them down with the state of our armed forces.

All of our defence is now concentrated on this rather than a ground army, so we probably do.

AStonedRose · 26/03/2026 17:51

Labelledelune · 26/03/2026 17:46

I don’t think we’ve got enough weapons to shoot them down with the state of our armed forces.

Fgs. They don’t exist. There’s zero evidence except for a statement from the Israeli government, and the very weird and suspect Diego Garcia turn of events.

its dodgy dossiers, David Kelly etc all over again. It’s so obvious and to be fair most people are seeing through it

KnowledgeableAvocado · 26/03/2026 17:50

Ah well, it was nice knowing you all

DuchessofStaffordshire · 26/03/2026 17:49

Liesmorelies · 26/03/2026 13:14

The regime is appalling but the way this has been done is irresponsible to say the least and isn't going to solve anything. It's made a volatile situation even more dangerous from what I can see.

At least Putin is benefiting from it.

Labelledelune · 26/03/2026 17:46

I don’t think we’ve got enough weapons to shoot them down with the state of our armed forces.

AStonedRose · 26/03/2026 17:46

Stirabout · 26/03/2026 17:26

Netanyahu said he'd wipe Palestine off the map in September 2023 at the UNGA
By your standards does that mean they had a right to defend themselves and attack ?

No, of course not.

It's like when Netanyahu says 'from the river to the sea'. It doesn't count.

DuchessofStaffordshire · 26/03/2026 17:44

Liesmorelies · 26/03/2026 11:38

Who knows if it's true but Fuck Trump is all I can say. Said it earlier too when I got petrol. Just fuck him.

Not just Trump. Think about who has been pulling his strings.

Stirabout · 26/03/2026 17:26

balabusta · 26/03/2026 17:06

Nope. Even the attacks of iranian funded and controlled houthis and hezbollah on israel would be causus beli. Let alone the existential threat Iran poses to israel, its stated aim is to destroy the country.
You don't get to say youre going to wipe a country off the map and then get surprised when said country stops you getting the means to do so. Its self defence.

Netanyahu said he'd wipe Palestine off the map in September 2023 at the UNGA
By your standards does that mean they had a right to defend themselves and attack ?

Stirabout · 26/03/2026 17:22

balabusta · 26/03/2026 16:03

Laughing at the stupidity of saying war is illegal becuase it is 🤣

I have noticed that when there's no substance to the actual argument, it does tend to move on to faux outrage at style.

Yet evidence has been given by a credible institution
despite the fact a war criminal with an arrest warrant out on him doesn’t like it
Well diddums

The use of laughing imojis on a thread such as this is more an indication that a poster has Nothing concrete or factual on the subject and merely seeks to put down other posts
It doesn’t work