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To think Labour is not the party of the working people.

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pinkpalmleaves · 24/03/2026 17:57

I voted for Labour as I believed their election pledge of being a party for the working people but genuinely I can’t think of one thing, since they’ve been in power, that they’ve done to help me (a single working mother on around £42k a year)! I get zero help from UC, these mystical breakfast clubs don’t exist, people aren’t employing people due to their ridiculous NI implications, they aren’t building affordable housing, energy prices are insanely high and all they talk about is grants (which won’t affect me as I live in a flat)! Genuinely I can’t think of one thing that they’ve done to help working people in the middle. Why are Labour sticking their heads in the sand? Why do they refuse to help the squeezed working class? They are stopping this economy from thriving - as
nobody can afford to spend anything extra (treats, holidays, meals out etc etc)!

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dinbin · 25/03/2026 13:00

Care in the home is already paid for by anyone with savings above £23.5k. May wanted to make a house taken into consideration so a charge would be levied on it to be repaid after death if the savings ran out. That’s fair enough when someone is in residential care because they don’t need the house any more but not for in home care.

@Blossomtoes

I meant to include the house value, a charge after death. I think it should be capped and a %. Why do you think that’s unfair?

If I’m honest I can’t rationalise it, it’s pure instinct. I guess for the reason I first stated and also because the cost of care in the home is a fraction of that in residential care.

Julen7 · 25/03/2026 13:28

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pinkpalmleaves · 24/03/2026 18:10

@dinbinwe are also the 6th richest country in the world! Where is the money going?

Wasting it on free meds, free bus passes for pensioners, translation services for NHS appointments, council vanity projects, HS1/2, etc.

Other European countries make pensioners contribute (with some % caps but they still pay), foreigners use apps or family to communicate if they can’t speak the language, etc - just to name a few things

Taxes are low compared to other countries but too many people aren’t contributing enough - some pay no NI at all or a pitiful amount.

EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 13:27

pinkpalmleaves · 25/03/2026 13:26

God I knew I tempted fate by flagging early on that this was a well meaning and balanced debate with no personal attacks! Came back on and what happened?

I wouldn’t worry it wasn’t much.

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pinkpalmleaves · 25/03/2026 13:26

God I knew I tempted fate by flagging early on that this was a well meaning and balanced debate with no personal attacks! Came back on and what happened?

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pinkpalmleaves · 25/03/2026 13:25

@InWithPeaceOutWithStressyawn!!! No, I was saying I expected Labour to give help to those on UC which isn’t me! But I also expected them to help working people not on UC (that is me) by doing something/anything - perhaps taxing their tech buddies that they seem intent on protecting instead of me and my megre 43k salary to the hilt!

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noworklifebalance · 25/03/2026 13:24

Kadiofakit · 25/03/2026 12:01

Using private school hockey pitches? not sure she has any choice where local clubs can book pitches surely. My boys have played football on private school pitches as that is where the other team played. No choice there

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Of course she has a choice! Good grief, she is not a child. And if that is where the local clubs can get pitches then it suggests that the schools are providing facilities where the council/government otherwise cannot.
Bloody stupid to be up in arms about these schools whilst happily playing fixtures on their pitches.

Not to mention that many private schools fill in gaps in state education that the government (this and previous) have failed to address - usually sports related but also other collaborations.

But I don’t want to derail the thread - point was about their braying from the opposition benches and blatant hypocrisy once in government.

EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 13:23

dinbin · 25/03/2026 13:02

@EasternStandard Im asking you what you would do to improve growth?

I don’t think anyone has argued higher taxes = higher growth have they? People were talking about tax vs the expectations of public services….

And you haven’t been clear at all, you have just constantly accused me of being a labour stan or whatever.

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If you’re saying higher taxes won’t get you growth then you’ll struggle to maintain public services anyway.

Even Labour know that which is why they sold in pre GE the idea of growth for spending. They then forgot their other line you can’t tax for growth.

The way to do it is incentivise, particularly SMEs. Not what’s happening now which is the opposite.

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HopeMumsnet · 25/03/2026 13:21

Hi all,
We have made several deletions on this thread and would strongly invite everyone to quit making personal attacks and get back to discussing politics.
Further, we'd really like to make clear that we welcome reports from allcomers, and that we will consider each one against our guidelines and delete if we deem it appropriate.
Posters who don't report with a view to maintaining standards of behaviour on the threads are really just contributing to the problem.
Best, and have at it once more. Goodness knows there's plenty to discuss without sniping at each other. Peace and love.

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dinbin · 25/03/2026 13:02

@Labelledelune I don’t get the 30 hours as dc are older but I use tax free childcare. Why wouldn’t I?

dinbin · 25/03/2026 13:02

@EasternStandard Im asking you what you would do to improve growth?

I don’t think anyone has argued higher taxes = higher growth have they? People were talking about tax vs the expectations of public services….

And you haven’t been clear at all, you have just constantly accused me of being a labour stan or whatever.

Labelledelune · 25/03/2026 13:01

dinbin · 25/03/2026 12:48

People on 80k or 90k claiming childcare... why? if you cannot afford kids on that salary, don't fucking have them

Do you mean the free hours? Why shouldn’t someone on 80k have discounted childcare? child benefit used to be universal & lots of other countries have subsidised childcare. Who do you think should have dc?

I’m in that earning bracket and would not dream of claiming this.

dinbin · 25/03/2026 13:00

Care in the home is already paid for by anyone with savings above £23.5k. May wanted to make a house taken into consideration so a charge would be levied on it to be repaid after death if the savings ran out. That’s fair enough when someone is in residential care because they don’t need the house any more but not for in home care.

@Blossomtoes

I meant to include the house value, a charge after death. I think it should be capped and a %. Why do you think that’s unfair?

JuliettaCaeser · 25/03/2026 12:59

Who do normal slightly left of centre people vote for? Genuinely stumped. Used to be Labour but they are now the party for benefit claimants and I’m a business owner taxed to hell. . Reform over my dead body. Greens seem frankly mental. Is it full circle to the conservatives? I admit I like kemi. Never saw myself as a Tory voter but strange times.

LindyCauper · 25/03/2026 12:58

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EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 12:58

dinbin · 25/03/2026 12:54

You still don’t get it. I don’t really know how to make it more digestible….

It’s not about what I want, there needs to be a honest discussion with the electorate.

Do they want public services as they are? Better ones?
Do they want to pay more tax etc?
Do they want to reduce benefits?

I personally don’t want to pay any more tax. I want to see improved services & I have already mentioned areas where I would cut.

What do you think should happen?

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You don’t need the first part, well unless you get the same back. I’ve been clear I don’t know how to make it more digestible to you.

Higher taxes won’t get you growth. And you won’t get better services with lower growth. Higher debt is also a major issue

dinbin · 25/03/2026 12:57

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How unnecessary, if your posts get deleted that’s on you. Not on those who report them.

dinbin · 25/03/2026 12:54

EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 08:04

What’s with the comprehension? It was a question.

Yes or no would do it.

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You still don’t get it. I don’t really know how to make it more digestible….

It’s not about what I want, there needs to be a honest discussion with the electorate.

Do they want public services as they are? Better ones?
Do they want to pay more tax etc?
Do they want to reduce benefits?

I personally don’t want to pay any more tax. I want to see improved services & I have already mentioned areas where I would cut.

What do you think should happen?

LindyCauper · 25/03/2026 12:53

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Labelledelune · 25/03/2026 12:51

Stnam · 25/03/2026 07:30

I think waiting lists are falling because more people are going private. My GP advised me to go to a private dermatologist because the NHS waiting list was too long to avoid scarring. My daughter's consultant told us to get private physio because she would benefit from having it sooner. My mother just got her hip replacement and cataracts done privately because she wants to be independent and mobile for as long as possible as otherwise other health issues will kick in sooner. I don't have a problem with more people paying for healthcare, but it is hardly good labour stuff. They'll probably slap VAT on it soon to punish people for paying for their own healthcare.

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They are also paying for people to use the private sector, how much is this costing us.

Labelledelune · 25/03/2026 12:50

BlackRowan · 25/03/2026 01:52

They can’t magic out growth for the country that voted for Brexit

they are doing really well with large businesses by the way who wanted stability over Tory shitshow

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Brexit must have been really powerful as most of Europe is in the same boat.

dinbin · 25/03/2026 12:48

People on 80k or 90k claiming childcare... why? if you cannot afford kids on that salary, don't fucking have them

Do you mean the free hours? Why shouldn’t someone on 80k have discounted childcare? child benefit used to be universal & lots of other countries have subsidised childcare. Who do you think should have dc?

Labelledelune · 25/03/2026 12:48

pinkpalmleaves · 24/03/2026 18:56

@Pineneedlesincarpeti think the uncomfortable truth is maybe a lot of people on benefits align with Farsge’s way of thinking!

I find most people on benefits don’t even bother to vote as no matter who gets in they still get their money.