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To think Labour is not the party of the working people.

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pinkpalmleaves · 24/03/2026 17:57

I voted for Labour as I believed their election pledge of being a party for the working people but genuinely I can’t think of one thing, since they’ve been in power, that they’ve done to help me (a single working mother on around £42k a year)! I get zero help from UC, these mystical breakfast clubs don’t exist, people aren’t employing people due to their ridiculous NI implications, they aren’t building affordable housing, energy prices are insanely high and all they talk about is grants (which won’t affect me as I live in a flat)! Genuinely I can’t think of one thing that they’ve done to help working people in the middle. Why are Labour sticking their heads in the sand? Why do they refuse to help the squeezed working class? They are stopping this economy from thriving - as
nobody can afford to spend anything extra (treats, holidays, meals out etc etc)!

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TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 12:47

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dinbin · 25/03/2026 12:45

Wowswrs, a lot to catch up! I didn’t expect the thread to still be so busy.

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PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 12:40

EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 12:37

Your 12.05 post doesn’t need the first line. It just creates bad feeling and isn’t correct.

It isn't a personal attack. If you think it is, report to mnhq and let them decide.

EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 12:37

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 12:31

What personal attack? I haven't attacked anyone!

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Your 12.05 post doesn’t need the first line. It just creates bad feeling and isn’t correct.

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 12:36

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What personal attack? I haven't attacked anyone!

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 12:25

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RichardTice · 25/03/2026 12:25

Dragonflytamer · 25/03/2026 08:54

Starmer's Labour is absolutely the party for the benefit class, not the working class. They are all about keeping people contained in their little box. Make it harder to employee people, punish success etc etc. The contrast with the aspiration of the Blair version of Labour is shocking.

I thought Starmer would just be new labour. Pro market and all that. Pro business as well.

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 12:20

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 12:12

I have a fair idea of how Nuthatch might vote in a certain scenario (i.e that she'd vote Reform to keep Labour out) in the same way that Nuthatch has a fair idea of how @BIossomtoes might vote in a certain scenario (see Nuthatch's post of 12:01) Because both have posted about it on MN in the past!

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I'm a conservative party member, and helping out with my local party. I'll be canvassing this weekend.
Not interested in Reform, despite your desperate attempts to label me and others as 'Reformites'.

I haven't mentioned your party membership or voting intentions for Wales and Westminster. Are you still a Plaid C member who intends to vote to keep Labour in power in Westminster, whilst also voting to remove Labour from power in Wales?

EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 12:20

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 12:12

I have a fair idea of how Nuthatch might vote in a certain scenario (i.e that she'd vote Reform to keep Labour out) in the same way that Nuthatch has a fair idea of how @BIossomtoes might vote in a certain scenario (see Nuthatch's post of 12:01) Because both have posted about it on MN in the past!

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So do I as I share a thread with her and I think your assumptions are off. Plus what she said made sense. Reform can benefit from being in opposition in Wales.

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 12:12

EasternStandard · 25/03/2026 12:07

Who is the prospective Reform voter you’re referring to? Why are you certain how the pp is voting.

I have a fair idea of how Nuthatch might vote in a certain scenario (i.e that she'd vote Reform to keep Labour out) in the same way that Nuthatch has a fair idea of how @BIossomtoes might vote in a certain scenario (see Nuthatch's post of 12:01) Because both have posted about it on MN in the past!

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 12:08

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Eh?

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 12:07

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That’s certainly the way the evidence from the councils they now run points.

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Who is the prospective Reform voter you’re referring to? Why are you certain how the pp is voting.

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 12:05

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BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 12:04

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 12:01

I thought you were going to hold your nose and vote conservative? Aka a vote for Kemi.

Only that was the only way to defeat Reform in my constituency. Hopefully there are still enough Tory voters here to make it unnecessary. Incidentally my bloke is a lifelong Tory voter and he’s currently also going to have to hold his nose, he detests what his party has become.

Kadiofakit · 25/03/2026 12:01

noworklifebalance · 24/03/2026 18:27

And Reeves was beating private school kids at chess
Phillipson added tax to fees, meanwhile her daughter was using private school hockey pitches.

They are all in it for themselves.

Maybe it’s the human condition .

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Using private school hockey pitches? not sure she has any choice where local clubs can book pitches surely. My boys have played football on private school pitches as that is where the other team played. No choice there

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 12:01

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 11:57

I think that’s highly debatable.

I thought you were going to hold your nose and vote conservative? Aka a vote for Kemi.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 25/03/2026 12:00

pinkpalmleaves · 24/03/2026 18:07

@HermioneWeasleyyes this is exactly how it feel. I was expecting the usual Labour UC help etc but also feel they spun a bit of a lie saying they’re th party of the working people. I know it might offend some people but we don’t all have shit loads of cash to spend and are on the poverty line, but entitled to nothing! It’s quite a scary place to be!

You’re upset because you expected to be entitled to UC under a Labour government?

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 11:59

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 11:56

Agree. They could still be in power via a coalition, though. Although it depends on who Plaid prefers to enter a coalition with. If the Greens do as well as predicted, it could be a Plaid-Green coalition. With Reform as the official opposition 🫣

Yes thats exactly what I'm saying. The scenario you allude to in your pp would actually benefit Reform at the next GE. They would have influence as opposition, but could point to all the mistakes of a left wing coalition. Win win.

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 11:59

RichardTice · 25/03/2026 11:52

My favourite economies are the gulf States, Singapore and HK. Low tax, free market and a place to build your success

Your constituents are getting pissed off with you though, tricky!

www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/mar/25/boston-lincolnshire-flooding-reform-uk-richard-tice-climate

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2026 11:57

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 11:53

Good, all the better for Kemi.

I think that’s highly debatable.

PandoraSocks · 25/03/2026 11:56

TheNuthatch · 25/03/2026 11:50

Yep. The only losers in Wales will be Labour.

Agree. They could still be in power via a coalition, though. Although it depends on who Plaid prefers to enter a coalition with. If the Greens do as well as predicted, it could be a Plaid-Green coalition. With Reform as the official opposition 🫣