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What fresh hell is this

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eggsandsourdough · 24/03/2026 15:58

High school!!

DD started last year and jesus fucking christ what a rollercoaster.

The transition has been absolutly brutal, not so much for my DD in the sense she made a huge group of friends but the sheer drama, behaviour,shocking stories.

My lovely, kind empathetic grl has turned into a monster.

I was not ready!! What a humbling experience.

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summershere99 · 26/03/2026 18:27

So far secondary has been okay… yes to some general moodiness from DS year 9. He seems to have a good, what he calls ‘sensible ‘ group of friends. My DD in year 7 is mostly having a good time but I do know that a few of her friends have epic fall outs. So far she is trying to avoid the drama. But I’m bracing myself for year 9, I hear that’s rough for girls!

My one small tip would be try to make sure they have friends outside of school through clubs etc… can make a difference if things don’t go brilliantly in school.

woowooz · 26/03/2026 18:25

Yes year 9 was the worst for our family . Only for my daughters . Son was fine . I couldn’t stand how the “ cool “ girls had mothers who encouraged this behaviour! Totally obsessed that their daughter had to be pretty and popular and cool . Basically living their lives through their daughters. My daughters keep their heads down and studied . But I know they got upset by the bitchiness. All fine now . Eldest 35 and a doctor pregnant with her second baby . Youngest 28 and a high flier in the City . Both still talk about the “ mean girls “.

TheWineoftheChicken · 26/03/2026 18:24

GateauSVP · 25/03/2026 10:04

I feel I've been lucky with my year 8 DS who has genuinely thrived in secondary. He has matured so much and is a confident, lovely lady with a great group of friends and a wide range of interests.

But DD is in year 5 and OH MY GOD the drama. She is currently being pushed out of her friendship group by a little toerag and it has caused so much hurt. I'm honestly dreading secondary school for her.

Does it make any difference if private or state? The state secondary DS goes to is actually very good. But we could stretch to placing DD in private. Unfortunately we are semi rural and the nearest one is a 45 minutes drive.

My DD is in year 7 in an independent school and so far it’s been fine! Great, even. She’s happy, got nice friends, enjoying her extra curriculars, working hard… I realise it could all go wrong though!

Goddessoftheearth · 26/03/2026 18:19

ainsleysanob · 24/03/2026 16:11

We’re half way through year 9 now and my DS, although already the hairiest creature I have ever seen, is still the same kind, loving and helpful boy he always was! We have two years left after this one and fingers crossed for maintaining this!!

Same here - DS is Y9 too, towers over me, is hairy and sometimes a bit Kevin like, but the majority of the time he’s a really sweet boy still

Scottsy200 · 26/03/2026 18:17

Make her watch Dawson’s Creek where teenagers had real problems to deal with 🤣🤣

smilingontheinside · 26/03/2026 18:11

Having worked in a senior school enjoy Yr 7. Year 9 is the absolute worst and most "problems" are with Yr 9 students. They are not the "little ones" think they're all that and a bag of chips but have the "seniors" making sure they dont get too bigger their boots. Its all fun and games and even more so with girls, hormones and girl friendship groups. Start buying your favourite alcohol/cakes/chocolate in bulk, you are going to need it 🤣🤣

Idontcareforthat · 26/03/2026 18:03

Year 8 was awful for DD with friendships. I think it’s often a bad year for this. Then year 9 was ‘the year of the face ache’. Dead eyed stares and EYEBROWS.

Year 9s are generally the worst in any school. Less attention on them as they aren’t in the GCSE years, but they are all too big for their boots mardy smart arses.

DS x2 had less bother with friends but both went through the awful 15/16-year old arsey teenage boy thing. ‘What d’ya mean it’s my tone of voice? I’m talking normally Mum.’

Hereforthecommentz · 26/03/2026 18:01

My dd has been fine at school, she's pretty bright and stays out of her other friends friendship dramas. Year 9 now and her attitude has definitely deteriorated. Teenage angst and telling me to shut up or huff and puff and everything's hard work. Getting up really late on weekends and her room is a shit hole. Constant nagging to do things, seems like we have drifted apart as things end up in arguments. All in all she's a normal teen! She doesn't drink or get in trouble she's quite captain sensible in thst regard so I'm lucky there.

00deed1988 · 26/03/2026 17:58

I thought I had got away with it....my son is in year 10 and life was great....I got to cocky and let my guard down. A month ago things started going south....

WearyAuldWumman · 26/03/2026 17:45

We also had an instance of a 15 yr old boy sending a picture of himself to younger girls. His parent claimed that his account had been hacked. Given his behaviour at school, I very much doubt that.

I have no idea whether there was police involvement on that one. I only know about it because the parent started to mouth off when called in about the son's behaviour towards a young member of my department.

WearyAuldWumman · 26/03/2026 17:41

purpleme12 · 26/03/2026 17:34

And did they still have the message? Aren't all messages deleted on Snapchat?

The girl showed me the message. I'm assuming that she wanted to disclose that something was amiss.

She mentioned the age and name of their 'friend' and asked did I want to see what he'd sent them. I told the girls that the sender was clearly an adult and that their 'friend' was anything but. I immediately called my line manager, who was also our Child Protection Officer.

The police and parents were contacted. The police wanted to take both phones for examination; one set of parents refused.

I wrote a statement and this was passed to the police via our Child Protection Officer.

I don't know what the result of the examination of the phone was. The parent who refused to cooperate apparently said "I'm not handing that over - I've just paid a contract for it."

ByOpalPear · 26/03/2026 17:36

Mines is halfway through S2 (Scotland) and the last 2 years have been the worst I have experienced. Absolute hell.

purpleme12 · 26/03/2026 17:34

And did they still have the message? Aren't all messages deleted on Snapchat?

WearyAuldWumman · 26/03/2026 17:28

To add to my above post: the girl was 13. Both she and a female classmate had received the same photograph from "Tommy".

WearyAuldWumman · 26/03/2026 17:26

dpridot · 26/03/2026 17:22

Why? I am considering giving it to her (year 9) so she can stay in touch with friends. She doesn't like texting on whats app and sc is more fun and interactive.

When I was still working in a secondary school, we had so many problems because of Snapchat. The least of it was when kids became hysterical over possibly losing their streak when told to put away their phones.

The worst was when one of my pupils disclosed that her "11 yr old" Snapchat friend "Tommy" had sent her a dick pic. Tommy was most definitely an adult male and the school contacted the police.

dpridot · 26/03/2026 17:22

WearyAuldWumman · 24/03/2026 17:24

PS

Keep DD away from Snapchat, if possible.

Why? I am considering giving it to her (year 9) so she can stay in touch with friends. She doesn't like texting on whats app and sc is more fun and interactive.

CocoaTea · 26/03/2026 17:14

dpridot · 26/03/2026 17:07

Why tho? Girls hormones kick in in year 6-8. In year 9 they're sort of through that.

Hormones can take up to 3 years to stabilise. “Kick in” is very different from “stable”.

CocoaTea · 26/03/2026 17:13

Yr 8 here - girls only school.

The made up dramas have been quite something to behold. Never ending angst.

I say “made up” because when I actually probe as to what the current drama is, there is no real substance behind it but oh my, the angst.

“Hi DD how was school?”

I am never ever speaking to X again”.

2 days later -

“X and I are best friends forever can we have a sleepover?”

But I thought ……. “No, that’s
over Mum - so over 🙄”

“Ok then DD”. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️.

dpridot · 26/03/2026 17:07

LarsenBiceshelf · 24/03/2026 16:00

Oh, you'll love Year 9, then. That's when the hormones kick in and they all go feral.

Why tho? Girls hormones kick in in year 6-8. In year 9 they're sort of through that.

BoredZelda · 26/03/2026 17:06

YellingAway · 24/03/2026 17:19

I have heard that it gets better in 5th year and to be honest not sure how it could get any worse than right now!

That’s my experience. 1st-4th year was full on angst. Girls can be hideous when it comes to friendships. 5th year has been much better, although we did have some drama the last couple of weeks which is still bumping along, but that’s all tied in with one girl and things that happened in 3rd year.

SusanChurchouse · 26/03/2026 16:47

I’m sort of the opposite in that my daughter had a hellish time at the end of (a crap) primary school and high school has actually been brilliant for her. Just a standard Scottish secondary school, very mixed catchment. Don’t get me wrong, we still have teenage behaviour and there were friendship issues in S1 but it seems to generally be a positive experience for her.

boysmuminherts · 26/03/2026 16:46

ainsleysanob · 24/03/2026 16:11

We’re half way through year 9 now and my DS, although already the hairiest creature I have ever seen, is still the same kind, loving and helpful boy he always was! We have two years left after this one and fingers crossed for maintaining this!!

haha this was me......now in Y10 OMG 😫

Contrarymary30 · 26/03/2026 16:42

This is generally the pattern with girls . They turn into absolute horrors for a few years . The bullying and spitefulness is the worst . Strap yourselves in ...

Thissideof40 · 26/03/2026 16:18

Secondary school is a whole other ball game. Wait until year 8 and 9 come, it gets worse!!!

FullofChocolate · 26/03/2026 16:14

LarsenBiceshelf · 24/03/2026 16:00

Oh, you'll love Year 9, then. That's when the hormones kick in and they all go feral.

I couldn’t agree more 😆

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