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to admire religious fasting for its discipline and commitment?

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catchingup1 · 23/03/2026 15:20

I’ve been thinking about this lately, especially with Ramadan just gone and the dry fasting of 24 hours by Jews and Mormons.

I can't help feeling impressed. Not in a gushy way, just genuinely. Going without food and water for long periods, while still getting on with normal life, work, family etc takes a level of willpower and discipline that I don’t think most people have.

It’s not even just the physical side. It’s the restraint, the routine, the intention behind it. The fact that people are doing it for something bigger than themselves, not just for a diet or health trend.

It's not just people who’ve grown up with it. There are converts every year across different religions who are doing these fasts for the first time as adults. They haven’t had years to “get used to it” and are choosing to take it on anyway. It’s a conscious decision, not just habit.

Even for people who have done it since childhood, plenty still find it challenging every year. It’s not like it becomes effortless, they’re still choosing to stick to it day after day.

Then you read so much now about people struggling with “food noise”, constantly thinking about what to eat next, cravings, snacking, not being able to switch off from it. So the idea of deliberately stepping away from all of that, even for a set period and managing your impulses like that. It does make me respect it.

I’m not saying it makes anyone better than anyone else, just that I admire the self control, discipline and commitment involved.

I came across this about the benefits of dry fasting:

www.bcm.edu/news/dawn-to-dusk-dry-fasting-leads-to-health-benefits-in-the-study-of-immune-cells

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Gloriia · 23/03/2026 20:50

I mean we all fast overnight, so what. Yes we aren't using any energy to require calories but the point is we eat and drink sufficient during the day to support organ function etc therefore it works the other way, consume enough before dawn and at dusk and all is fine.

catchingup1 · 23/03/2026 20:47

mellongoose · 23/03/2026 20:44

Self denial is part of many religions. All this chat about Ramadan and most seem to have forgotten we are also in Lent.

Also, how many people are aware that, traditionally, advent was also a time to fast prior to the feast of Christmas?

Im afraid my will power is rubbish and I admire anyone who can focus on their faith in this way.

Good reminder about Lent. My Christian friend gave up Facebook for Lent.

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likelysuspect · 23/03/2026 20:47

No I dont admire it for religious reasons, as I think that most religions have some element to them which encourages a degree of self harm and practices which are not in line with what humans need or how they function, lots of denial above and beyond which is actually good for people in the name of 'something'. I dont think that is emotionally, psychologically or physically healthy

I also dont admire it for 'health' reasons as I think that its again just a form of restriction and self harm dressed up as 'healthy' and the new thing building on an old thing (as fasting has been born out of religion over thousands of years)

None of these things are normal and not to be encouraged or admired.

mellongoose · 23/03/2026 20:44

Self denial is part of many religions. All this chat about Ramadan and most seem to have forgotten we are also in Lent.

Also, how many people are aware that, traditionally, advent was also a time to fast prior to the feast of Christmas?

Im afraid my will power is rubbish and I admire anyone who can focus on their faith in this way.

catchingup1 · 23/03/2026 20:43

ShakyBake · 23/03/2026 20:39

Well it seems you have made your mind up then op. What was the point of this post?

What is the point of any thread on here? People can post whatever they like within reason surely?

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Gloriia · 23/03/2026 20:43

A lot of people don't fast so much as binge eat at different times to usual meal times.

So, have a massive feast before dawn, more than enough calories to see them through the day then the same at dusk, a huge feast. I've lived and worked with people who say they're fasting and they are literally rearranging their daily calorific intake to have it in 2 huge meals rather than spread over the course of the day.

TheBlueKoala · 23/03/2026 20:40

Risks of Dry Fasting
The biggest risk of dry fasting is dehydration. The complications of dehydration can include:

Seizures. When your electrolytes, such as sodium and potassium are out of balance, your body can have trouble sending electrical signals from cell to cell. This can lead to involuntary muscle contractions and a loss of consciousness.

Brain swelling. When you are getting fluids again after being dehydrated, your body sometimes tries to pull too much water back into your cells. Some cells can swell and rupture during this process. If this happens to your brain cells, it can be especially serious.
Heat injury. If you dry fast during strenuous exercise or when you’re very hot, you can develop a heat injury. This can be mild, such as with heat cramps, or severe, such as with heat exhaustion or heat stroke. Heat stroke can be potentially life-threatening.**
Kidney failure. If your kidneys are no longer able to remove excess fluids and waste from your body, it can lead to kidney failure, which can be life-threatening.
Low blood volume shock. This life-threatening condition called hypovolemic shock occurs when low blood volume in your body causes a drop in your blood pressure and a drop in the amount of oxygen in your body.

Coma and death. If not treated quickly, severe dehydration can be life-threatening.

ShakyBake · 23/03/2026 20:39

catchingup1 · 23/03/2026 20:37

I have worked with people who have fasted for years. Never had to pick up any slack. I don't deny that might be the case for some people but it is not across the board.

Well it seems you have made your mind up then op. What was the point of this post?

saveforthat · 23/03/2026 20:39

catchingup1 · 23/03/2026 15:20

I’ve been thinking about this lately, especially with Ramadan just gone and the dry fasting of 24 hours by Jews and Mormons.

I can't help feeling impressed. Not in a gushy way, just genuinely. Going without food and water for long periods, while still getting on with normal life, work, family etc takes a level of willpower and discipline that I don’t think most people have.

It’s not even just the physical side. It’s the restraint, the routine, the intention behind it. The fact that people are doing it for something bigger than themselves, not just for a diet or health trend.

It's not just people who’ve grown up with it. There are converts every year across different religions who are doing these fasts for the first time as adults. They haven’t had years to “get used to it” and are choosing to take it on anyway. It’s a conscious decision, not just habit.

Even for people who have done it since childhood, plenty still find it challenging every year. It’s not like it becomes effortless, they’re still choosing to stick to it day after day.

Then you read so much now about people struggling with “food noise”, constantly thinking about what to eat next, cravings, snacking, not being able to switch off from it. So the idea of deliberately stepping away from all of that, even for a set period and managing your impulses like that. It does make me respect it.

I’m not saying it makes anyone better than anyone else, just that I admire the self control, discipline and commitment involved.

I came across this about the benefits of dry fasting:

www.bcm.edu/news/dawn-to-dusk-dry-fasting-leads-to-health-benefits-in-the-study-of-immune-cells

What's the something bigger?

catchingup1 · 23/03/2026 20:38

ShakyBake · 23/03/2026 20:37

And for each one of those articles there is one that says the opposite.
I'd say listen to your body, don't starve it of what it needs. Live life.

A quick google search shows the majority are positive.

Fasting gives the body what it needs and you can live life.

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catchingup1 · 23/03/2026 20:37

ForFluentLimeFatball · 23/03/2026 20:36

Workers have to pick up the slack - no one can give of their best when not earing or drinking.
More work caused if fasters collapse. It hapens

I have worked with people who have fasted for years. Never had to pick up any slack. I don't deny that might be the case for some people but it is not across the board.

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ShakyBake · 23/03/2026 20:37

And for each one of those articles there is one that says the opposite.
I'd say listen to your body, don't starve it of what it needs. Live life.

ForFluentLimeFatball · 23/03/2026 20:36

Workers have to pick up the slack - no one can give of their best when not earing or drinking.
More work caused if fasters collapse. It hapens

catchingup1 · 23/03/2026 20:35

lazyarse123 · 23/03/2026 20:31

I had a Muslim friend and honestly he was less than useless every year at Ramadan when he was working. He would spend a lot of time napping in the canteen every chance he got and always had a lot of headaches and obviously couldn't take anything for it. Not sure it did him any good physically.

I am sure he is not representative of all the people who fast 🙄

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catchingup1 · 23/03/2026 20:34

ShakyBake · 23/03/2026 20:31

I can't see how it is good for the body.
If I go more then a couple of hours I get everso hungry

www.bcm.edu/news/dawn-to-dusk-dry-fasting-leads-to-health-benefits-in-the-study-of-immune-cells

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catchingup1 · 23/03/2026 20:34

TheBlueKoala · 23/03/2026 20:30

I am not impressed. They are not helping anyone by fasting- not even themselves :
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/dry-fasting

I admire people who helps other people- Doctors without borders or local charity volonteers. They are making a difference.

www.bcm.edu/news/dawn-to-dusk-dry-fasting-leads-to-health-benefits-in-the-study-of-immune-cells

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8358295/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589936824000069

https://www.dzd-ev.de/en/article/study-shows-no-negative-effects-of-religious-dry-fasting-on-blood-sugar-levels-in-people-without-diabetes

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catchingup1 · 23/03/2026 20:34

HeddaGarbled · 23/03/2026 20:28

Having worked with women who were fasting and heard how difficult it was for them, I’m more inclined to think it’s abusive, especially the lack of water.

What is abusive?

www.bcm.edu/news/dawn-to-dusk-dry-fasting-leads-to-health-benefits-in-the-study-of-immune-cells

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Greyblankie · 23/03/2026 20:33

Im not impressed by it at all. I have no interest in other people’s performative religion practices, especially when it effects school and workplaces

lazyarse123 · 23/03/2026 20:31

I had a Muslim friend and honestly he was less than useless every year at Ramadan when he was working. He would spend a lot of time napping in the canteen every chance he got and always had a lot of headaches and obviously couldn't take anything for it. Not sure it did him any good physically.

ShakyBake · 23/03/2026 20:31

I can't see how it is good for the body.
If I go more then a couple of hours I get everso hungry

TheBlueKoala · 23/03/2026 20:30

I am not impressed. They are not helping anyone by fasting- not even themselves :
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/dry-fasting

I admire people who helps other people- Doctors without borders or local charity volonteers. They are making a difference.

Dry Fasting: Why You Should Avoid It

You may have heard of dry fasting, where you fast without consuming any liquids or water. But before you try it, a registered dietitian explains how it can be dangerous and cause dehydration and other issues.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/dry-fasting

HeddaGarbled · 23/03/2026 20:28

Having worked with women who were fasting and heard how difficult it was for them, I’m more inclined to think it’s abusive, especially the lack of water.

Humdingerydoo · 23/03/2026 20:26

Our landscape gardeners worked throughout Ramadan 😳 I felt so bad for them! And then they took Eid off (obviously!) but brought chocolates round for US. They don't even live locally to us, they went out of their way to deliver them to us, a Jewish family. They're possibly the nicest bunch of men I've ever met. But I'm definitely happier now that I'm able to offer them drinks and biscuits throughout the day!

canuckup · 23/03/2026 20:24

I'm impressed by other things tbh

Robinbauble · 23/03/2026 20:22

Check out the Coptic Christian/orthodox fasts. It’s not just giving up something for Lent. I think the Copts fast more than almost anybody else, but the Lent ones is particularly stringent.

What I really admire about Ramadan is the mental fasting. I honestly don’t think I’d manage. People annoy me enough when I’m not hungry and thirsty!