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Husband’s female colleague’s issue being taken very seriously.

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Sweetmarzipan · 23/03/2026 13:28

So background. DH works in a fairly male dominated industry.

When he first started in this company he would be away fairly often. One or two nights away every 4/6 weeks. One week in April and the odd conference.

I almost always went with him if I could for no other reason than the free hotel. If there were other colleagues they would have have their spouses with them as well. We became friends with many of them and still socialise. Irrelevant to my post but we always had separate bills and we never exploited expenses and we never saw other colleagues do this either but obviously the room was the same price regardless of occupancy.

Covid came along and other ways of doing things came about so audits etc were done remotely and these trips are now few and far between.

Last week I did join him for the first time in probably 6 months. He was leaving the centre with a male colleague in his fifties and a female colleague (mid thirties but I don’t know if anyone will find ages relevant) who had joined the company around three to six months ago (DH and colleague differ on the dates).

As they left to check into hotel the female colleague asked if they were eating, but they said that they had their wives with them and the male colleague said that she was welcome to join them but she declined. We had booked a pub meal on our own.

They were all together on Friday but over the weekend she has made a complaint suggesting that I and the other colleague’s wife had deliberately tagged along as they believed she would be unprofessional and inappropriate.

An email has now gone out saying that spouses are no longer able to tag along.

Colleague was spoken to face to face and the bosses did seem apologetic. DH was on a site and saw the email and was phoned by one of the directors again with apologies.

Surely she should have been told about the culture of the company. I am really gobsmacked. Two other wives have texted me this morning and they feel the same. We had a really nice lifestyle there which is bound to have created a nice work environment.

OP posts:
KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 14:26

MrsAvocet · 24/03/2026 14:03

Maybe she has, the 2 are not mutually exclusive.
I had a very well paid job of my own and did plenty of travelling . But when you are the one doing the working you get to see the airport, the hotel, wherever you are working and usually not much more. And having children at home often precludes staying on for sightseeing afterwards. I am now happily (early) retired and our children are all adults so if my DH is going somewhere that is of interest to me I will happily join him if it's possible. I could go on my own and indeed I do go on solo trips and travel with other people but shock, horror, DH and I quite like each other and enjoy each other's company. Now we don't have children at home we sometimes book a couple of days more at our own expense and explore places together once his business is over. After all, we are always being told we should be minimising air travel so surely it makes more sense that if he's working in Paris or Berlin we tack a short break on to the end than make a separate trip to visit those places at a different time?
It's pretty mysoginistic to assume that the only reason a woman might travel with her spouse is because she doesn't have the wherewithal to do it independently.

Work trips are for work, anything else should use one’s annual leave. And it’s not misogynistic to say any of what I said - that poster claimed she wanted to tick things off her bucket list, making it clear it wouldn’t have happened without tagging along on her spouse’s work trip.

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2026 14:26

RawBloomers · 24/03/2026 14:24

Companies' right to make rules about such things is severely limited by the courts. They can't stop you from sleeping with someone unless it creates a conflict of interest. They certainly can't stop you from sleeping with your spouse.

Edited

Well then that’ll be good news for OP, who can resume tagging along with the other wives despite the new rule.

RawBloomers · 24/03/2026 14:24

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2026 14:19

OMG of course it does or companies wouldn’t have rules about such things - which the company in the OP has decided to impose.

My spouse has only ever tagged along with me once in my career to date of plenty of trips at home and abroad because I was 8 months pregnant. It was with the client paying for the trip’s permission.

I enjoying the time with colleagues in the evening as most work remotely these days it’s a nice chance to catch up and socialise. I don’t want be going off with my spouse to a pub just the two of us.

Maybe I’m weird like that.

If it was just me and Creepy John I’d fake a headache and order room service.

Companies' right to make rules about such things is severely limited by the courts. They can't stop you from sleeping with someone unless it creates a conflict of interest. They certainly can't stop you from sleeping with your spouse.

KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 14:22

RawBloomers · 24/03/2026 14:21

No it isn't. The courts have been clear that employees have a right to a private life and companies can't dictate who they do or don't sleep with unless there is a conflict of interest or similar risk to the employee's integrity at work.

Okay you’re taking this to ridiculous levels so I’m out.

KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 14:21

RawBloomers · 24/03/2026 14:07

How do they not have those risks for anything an employee might do while away from home for work without banning all non-company socialising while away? An employee could chat up someone in the bar, or hire an escort. Could have an old friend who lives in the area come stay over or go stay with them. Etc. And those people could all do illegal things in the room that the company pays for (not sure what you mean by on the company's time).

I'm having a hard time seeing how there could be any liability on the company from the spouse or anyone else who happens to be in an employee's company when they are no longer actually working. Could you explain that one?

Because if an employee does it then the company has some recourse? How are people not understanding this? The company has a duty of care towards their employee and the employee has expected standards of behaviour dictated by their company. There is a contract between employee and employer that does not extend to spouses.

RawBloomers · 24/03/2026 14:21

KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 14:18

It has something to do with it if the company has literally paid for the bed for that night though. I mean, maybe if the OP and her husband paid for the hotel room themselves then sure, it would be nobody’s business but theirs.

No it isn't. The courts have been clear that employees have a right to a private life and companies can't dictate who they do or don't sleep with unless there is a conflict of interest or similar risk to the employee's integrity at work.

Thatsalineallright · 24/03/2026 14:20

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2026 14:11

Are you really saying being non a work trip is the same as being at home? 🙄

It's very similar, yes. You are doing your job, just in a different location. There is no reason your priorities need to drastically change or that you suddenly need to start "pandering" to when your spouse wants to have breakfast.

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2026 14:19

Thatsalineallright · 24/03/2026 14:13

Work trips are for workduring the day. Who the employees sleep next to at night has absolutely nothing to do with work.

OMG of course it does or companies wouldn’t have rules about such things - which the company in the OP has decided to impose.

My spouse has only ever tagged along with me once in my career to date of plenty of trips at home and abroad because I was 8 months pregnant. It was with the client paying for the trip’s permission.

I enjoying the time with colleagues in the evening as most work remotely these days it’s a nice chance to catch up and socialise. I don’t want be going off with my spouse to a pub just the two of us.

Maybe I’m weird like that.

If it was just me and Creepy John I’d fake a headache and order room service.

KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 14:18

Thatsalineallright · 24/03/2026 14:13

Work trips are for workduring the day. Who the employees sleep next to at night has absolutely nothing to do with work.

It has something to do with it if the company has literally paid for the bed for that night though. I mean, maybe if the OP and her husband paid for the hotel room themselves then sure, it would be nobody’s business but theirs.

RawBloomers · 24/03/2026 14:16

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2026 14:11

Are you really saying being non a work trip is the same as being at home? 🙄

In these terms, why wouldn't it be?

You seem to be assuming that people who make sure they are prepped for work, do their jobs properly and support their spouses in doing their jobs, will suddenly change tack and undermine their careers because they aren't in their own home.

Which is just bizarre.

Hellometime · 24/03/2026 14:16

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2026 13:39

Don’t be ridiculous. I meant in the evening not during the working day. What time back from work, what time going out, where eating, what time breakfast. All taking into account spouse’s wants and needs.

I definitely don’t interact with my husband like that?!
A more common occurrence is him back in hotel room messaging me saying where are you.
He shares his itinerary. I crack on and do what I fancy. If he has free time we spend it together. If plans change and he gets invited to something so be it.
I’m used to travelling and very happy with my own company.
In OP’s case if there had been some work emergency and he couldn’t meet her at pub for dinner then I’m sure she would have managed to get her own meal. Start time suddenly shifts to 7am, she can have a lie in and breakfast on her own. It’s not rocket science.

GarlicFound · 24/03/2026 14:14

Thatsalineallright · 24/03/2026 14:08

I really don't understand this.

I and my DH decide what time to have breakfast based on when we need to be at work. We come home at the end of the day and then have dinner. This is the norm for everyone, surely.

There is no reason why it would be any different on a work trip.

Well, no, why would it? But a handful of PPs are incredibly committed to the idea of spouses as intrusive, demanding killjoys - and of colleagues, by contrast, as lovingly compassionate, stimulating company. The two must never meet.

I daren't think why!

Thatsalineallright · 24/03/2026 14:13

KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 13:49

No, I think if they want to visit such places together then they should arrange a holiday to those places. Work trips are for work. A spouse should not be present.

Work trips are for workduring the day. Who the employees sleep next to at night has absolutely nothing to do with work.

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2026 14:11

Thatsalineallright · 24/03/2026 14:08

I really don't understand this.

I and my DH decide what time to have breakfast based on when we need to be at work. We come home at the end of the day and then have dinner. This is the norm for everyone, surely.

There is no reason why it would be any different on a work trip.

Are you really saying being non a work trip is the same as being at home? 🙄

GarlicFound · 24/03/2026 14:09

KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 13:49

No, I think if they want to visit such places together then they should arrange a holiday to those places. Work trips are for work. A spouse should not be present.

You said she should get a job that involved visiting the same destinations for herself.

I think your argument's specious but, in any case, this conversation's now re-treading the same ground for the umpteenth time.

Thatsalineallright · 24/03/2026 14:08

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2026 13:39

Don’t be ridiculous. I meant in the evening not during the working day. What time back from work, what time going out, where eating, what time breakfast. All taking into account spouse’s wants and needs.

I really don't understand this.

I and my DH decide what time to have breakfast based on when we need to be at work. We come home at the end of the day and then have dinner. This is the norm for everyone, surely.

There is no reason why it would be any different on a work trip.

RawBloomers · 24/03/2026 14:07

KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 13:58

Just off the top of my head:

Reputational risk if a spouse misbehaves/does anything illegal while staying somewhere on the company’s time

Insurance risk if the anything happens to the spouse during the trip (insurance is usually built in to work trips booked through travel providers but would not cover spouses)

Financial risk as at the very minimum it will create an additional administrative burden to ensure that company funds are not being used to support spouse travel/subsistence in any way which could be flagged in audits etc.

Risk to company culture as it may make other employees feel uncomfortable (as has been the case here)

I could go on.

How do they not have those risks for anything an employee might do while away from home for work without banning all non-company socialising while away? An employee could chat up someone in the bar, or hire an escort. Could have an old friend who lives in the area come stay over or go stay with them. Etc. And those people could all do illegal things in the room that the company pays for (not sure what you mean by on the company's time).

I'm having a hard time seeing how there could be any liability on the company from the spouse or anyone else who happens to be in an employee's company when they are no longer actually working. Could you explain that one?

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2026 14:07

KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 14:00

Same. Yes we can all stick rigidly to the 9-5 rule when on a work trip but I’ve found work trips are the best time to talk to colleagues, build camaraderie and enhance group dynamics. A bit difficult to do that when spouses are present.

Yes. I agree.

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2026 14:06

OP says it in her OP “we had a really nice lifestyle there” - tagging along on work trips - which became the workplace culture. I don’t think this is healthy or very professional. It’s exclusionary and old boys club vibes.

CruCru · 24/03/2026 14:05

I am not sure whether the OP will be returning to this thread.

The outcome of the change in policy may depend on what sort of trips they are. Is going on a work trip for this company considered interesting and prestigious? Or is it something that the employees could do without but do because it isn’t too bad if they can bring their spouses?

If it is the second, they may find that they get a bit of pushback when they decide that they need three of the team to go to Leeds for a week to review a client’s computer files (say).

SpaceRaccoon · 24/03/2026 14:04

KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 13:50

That’s what holidays are for, not work trips.

All the better if you can combine them. I spent a lovely six weeks in a beautiful European city with DH last year and we thoroughly enjoyed his days off together, and no-one died.

MrsAvocet · 24/03/2026 14:03

KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 13:29

Or maybe you could find the sort of job that would enable you to travel to such places off your own back?

Maybe she has, the 2 are not mutually exclusive.
I had a very well paid job of my own and did plenty of travelling . But when you are the one doing the working you get to see the airport, the hotel, wherever you are working and usually not much more. And having children at home often precludes staying on for sightseeing afterwards. I am now happily (early) retired and our children are all adults so if my DH is going somewhere that is of interest to me I will happily join him if it's possible. I could go on my own and indeed I do go on solo trips and travel with other people but shock, horror, DH and I quite like each other and enjoy each other's company. Now we don't have children at home we sometimes book a couple of days more at our own expense and explore places together once his business is over. After all, we are always being told we should be minimising air travel so surely it makes more sense that if he's working in Paris or Berlin we tack a short break on to the end than make a separate trip to visit those places at a different time?
It's pretty mysoginistic to assume that the only reason a woman might travel with her spouse is because she doesn't have the wherewithal to do it independently.

KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 14:02

SerendipityJane · 24/03/2026 13:59

You are wasting your time. The grown ups left this thread early on 😀

Haha yeah you’re probably right - I’m just baffled by this thread to be honest. There’s a lot of strange behaviour in some companies that’s for sure!

rwalker · 24/03/2026 14:01

LittleMonks11 · 24/03/2026 09:43

I disagree. There is an impact because the employee is going to be pandering to the spouse’s wants and needs and not giving the job and company their full attention - which is paying their expenses and time.

Rubbish you do realise there referring to time in the evening which is there own personal time NOT company time where they are free to do what ever they want want

KatsPJs · 24/03/2026 14:00

the7Vabo · 24/03/2026 13:56

I think it’s so odd in this environment how married people are to what their entitlements are. People keep repeating 9-5 and my time etc.

If I go on a trip I’ll leave my evenings open for colleagues or the client, or if I’m tired I’ll get room service. I go on the trip to work and that’s what I’m thinking about. Not to say I’d never go sightseeing or have my OH visit, but not every trip.

The headlines this morning of full of stories of mass redundancies due to AI, and Iran. And people are talking about taking early retirement & work trips to see the world. If I manage not to be laid off before retirement I’ll
open a bottle of champagne. It makes me feel like I live on another planet!

Same. Yes we can all stick rigidly to the 9-5 rule when on a work trip but I’ve found work trips are the best time to talk to colleagues, build camaraderie and enhance group dynamics. A bit difficult to do that when spouses are present.