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Husband’s female colleague’s issue being taken very seriously.

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Sweetmarzipan · 23/03/2026 13:28

So background. DH works in a fairly male dominated industry.

When he first started in this company he would be away fairly often. One or two nights away every 4/6 weeks. One week in April and the odd conference.

I almost always went with him if I could for no other reason than the free hotel. If there were other colleagues they would have have their spouses with them as well. We became friends with many of them and still socialise. Irrelevant to my post but we always had separate bills and we never exploited expenses and we never saw other colleagues do this either but obviously the room was the same price regardless of occupancy.

Covid came along and other ways of doing things came about so audits etc were done remotely and these trips are now few and far between.

Last week I did join him for the first time in probably 6 months. He was leaving the centre with a male colleague in his fifties and a female colleague (mid thirties but I don’t know if anyone will find ages relevant) who had joined the company around three to six months ago (DH and colleague differ on the dates).

As they left to check into hotel the female colleague asked if they were eating, but they said that they had their wives with them and the male colleague said that she was welcome to join them but she declined. We had booked a pub meal on our own.

They were all together on Friday but over the weekend she has made a complaint suggesting that I and the other colleague’s wife had deliberately tagged along as they believed she would be unprofessional and inappropriate.

An email has now gone out saying that spouses are no longer able to tag along.

Colleague was spoken to face to face and the bosses did seem apologetic. DH was on a site and saw the email and was phoned by one of the directors again with apologies.

Surely she should have been told about the culture of the company. I am really gobsmacked. Two other wives have texted me this morning and they feel the same. We had a really nice lifestyle there which is bound to have created a nice work environment.

OP posts:
AtLeastThreeDrinks · 23/03/2026 16:11

I think it’s really unreasonable of them to say you can’t use the room however you want – the company may be covering the cost of the accommodation but presumably your H isn’t paid extra to be there, i.e. his evenings are his own.

What did she actually say? If it was implied that they should be spending the evenings together talking shop I’d be tempted to ask if the company is paying for that time. If she literally said you were there to ensure your husbands didn’t cheat on you (surely not?!) then that’s really none of her business.

PinkArt · 23/03/2026 16:11

GarlicFound · 23/03/2026 14:41

Agree. I'm bewildered by the flood of 'unprofessional' comments.

I don't see forced evening socialisation between colleagues as particularly good for business - how so? They aren't schmoozing clients and, if eating together were so important, they'd be dining together when working at the office.

Fostering friendly family relations among staff, however, is a long-established employee retention strategy. This lot have shot themselves in the foot, I reckon.

I do hope Ms Complaint enjoys playing corporate totty at the next trip away - and hope the men don't join her for dinner or drinks!

I do hope Ms Complaint enjoys playing corporate totty at the next trip away - and hope the men don't join her for dinner or drinks!

This kind of outdated, misogynistic bollocks sounds like the shit she's up against at work. She isn't 'playing corporate totty', she's a woman at work, doing her job that - given we know it's a male dominated field - she's likely better at than the men who work there. She's no more corporate totty than the OP's husband is, but he's framed as 'the men' who should exclude her.

OP, I get why it's annoying but I'm team female colleague. It's already hard being a woman in a male dominated industry. It makes it harder still when on a work trip the only other women there are 'the wives' and she's found herself excluded socially because everyone else has brought 'the wives' along for a jolly. It sounds like the bad old days when business was done at the pub or on the golf course and anyone who wasn't part of the boys club at those social events mysteriously missed out on promotions. What you call 'a really nice lifestyle there which is bound to have created a nice work environment' clearly did nothing of the sort for what sounds like the only women on the team.

theresnolimits · 23/03/2026 16:10

Good for her. She’s a young woman being ignored by older male colleagues and she hasn't ‘put up and shut up’. Rather than being allowed to network with her colleagues, she’s being sent to her room.

I cannot see how this practice was acceptable, either tax wise or in terms of equality. And I don’t believe for a moment anyone mature enough to raise this would say it was to protect those poor male employees - unless someone has made a very unwise comment to her along these lines and then she has every right to complain about being framed in those terms.

SockPlant · 23/03/2026 16:06

A nice perk is unfortunately over because some twit made a stupid complaint.

But. I would recommend for your DHs each of mind that he (or other) male colleagues are never alone with her. On this alone she seems to have a knack of grasping the wrong end of a stick.

SerendipityJane · 23/03/2026 16:05

Bist · 23/03/2026 16:01

This really is one of those mumsnet threads where my mind is blown. I’ve never come across any sort of workplace where this would be seen as acceptable.

I’ll file this alongside people who spend all day in their PJs and those who get changed out of outdoor clothes as soon as they come home. Equally strange concepts.

It's all most singular, isn't it.

Blueyrocks · 23/03/2026 16:04

CatNoBag · 23/03/2026 15:16

I think it is a bit othering to her to have older, male colleagues on work trips bringing their wives along and having clearly made arrangements in advance without including her (you say you'd already booked somewhere for dinner for the 4 of you). Its pretty weird to go along on a work trip with your husband if there are other colleagues on the same trip and some of those (i.e. the younger female colleague) are excluded from plans.

I agree with this. It's also telling that so many people who agree with the OP are commenting on how unpopular the younger woman will be as a result, rather than on how wildly unprofessional the company has been in sharing her complaint (though I find it very unlikely that the substance was as it's been recounted here). And that's to say nothing of the comments about "corporate totty" , and "now she has her chance to shag the husbands".

CanterThroughChaos · 23/03/2026 16:04

Holdmybeermoment · 23/03/2026 15:45

If they’re not being paid for their time outside of working hours then his boss cannot make rules about who he has dinner with. I’d stay well away from that woman. She’s going to find herself with no one at work who wants to socialise with her.

Fine then they can book their own room, it’s a free country, they probably won’t though. I’m very sceptical of the reason, it’s too strange and I can’t imagine any employer citing this in an email, without seeing the content I would say it’s almost unbelievable. Far more likely that they had cliques out socialising and one person alone in their room. I would be more wary of people who feel entitled to freeload. The likelihood is this change will promote inclusion and wellbeing within the organisation and bring the team closer. The tag alongs will be forgotten in no time and a healthier culture will be created.

Calliopespa · 23/03/2026 16:03

SooPanda · 23/03/2026 14:00

and now she’s free to try!

I'm afraid that was my first thought: she felt a bit thwarted and thought she'd clear the decks to have a free runway next time!

Honestly some people just need to learn to shut up when it really isn't their business.

Angelicake · 23/03/2026 16:02

On balance I think it's pretty inappropriate to bring along a spouse on a work trip. I'd never bring my husband and he'd never bring me. And I think I'd feel a bit weird if my colleague's partners were there whilst I was working

I used to go occasionally with dh when he worked away but only if it was for just one night. I didn't have dinner with him or anything and never saw his colleagues. I was happy to spend the day in a different city and have a peaceful dinner on my own. I don't think it would have gone down well if I'd muscled in during the evening.

Bist · 23/03/2026 16:01

This really is one of those mumsnet threads where my mind is blown. I’ve never come across any sort of workplace where this would be seen as acceptable.

I’ll file this alongside people who spend all day in their PJs and those who get changed out of outdoor clothes as soon as they come home. Equally strange concepts.

Hellometime · 23/03/2026 15:57

It seems very short sighted and knee jerk by company. A longstanding arrangement that has worked well shouldn’t have been overridden on a whim.
As long as spouses weren’t impacting working hours what you do after working day is entirely up to you. No obligation to socialise with colleagues. Some people prefer to eat in room or go to pool or see a show etc.
If I was your husband and other colleague I wouldn’t socialise with her I’d be very wary. It’s really odd to have jumped to you’ve brought your wife as you can’t be trusted. I’d assume wife was there to enjoy a little break and make use of paid for hotel.
I’ve often tagged along with husband no issues to conferences etc. I pay my own food. I use pool/spa, afternoon tea or go shopping and sightseeing. If there’s a dinner allowing a plus 1 I’d buy a ticket. His car mileage and room is covered whether 1 or 2 people. It’s very common in his sector and never been an issue.

Bist · 23/03/2026 15:56

Changename12 · 23/03/2026 15:07

That is actually quite restrictive. Not everyone is into drinking and happy to spend their time in a bar. We have to accept that these days we have a mixed work force.

And? You don’t have to drink alcohol in a bar these days. I’ve never met anyone from any background who’d objected to being in a hotel bar.

Carciofilover · 23/03/2026 15:56

We used to do this when our DC were preschoolers, supplementing the allowance my DH was given for the room and paying for food. It allowed us, and other colleagues’ families, some mini breaks and, as you say, gave us a sense of community. What a sad, twisted mind this woman has. How bitter she is.

DontEatTheMushies · 23/03/2026 15:54

Tiswa · 23/03/2026 13:51

But they can very much dictate what they are willing to pay for and rooms they are paying for an occupancy of - and they can take control of that

it isn’t your lifestyle though is it it is a working environment not a trip away

They can, to a point. But it must be a done thing as HMRC have a section on it: Work expenses for spouses accompanying employees on business trips (480: Chapter 10)

ResponsiblePopcorn · 23/03/2026 15:52

I can see her point and good for her for raising it.

Shes working in a male dominated environment as it is and now her evenings working away are being spent with males and their partners. I would wouldn't be happy with that.

FrenchandSaunders · 23/03/2026 15:52

Blimey have all these wives not got kids or jobs? Seems odd to me to go on almost every trip.

Gardenquestion22 · 23/03/2026 15:51

This is so weird. I've often tagged on to my huband's work trips if he's going somewhere interesting. Either a couple of days at the end or during the trip, I did my own thing in the day and joined them in the evenings. Last time his colleagues knew his meeting had over run over and texted me which pub they were all in so I went there after my flight had got in.

Other partners turn up too.

He's tagged on to my trips, and either done his own thing or hung out with me and my colleagues...

MikeRafone · 23/03/2026 15:50

going forward it ives a very clear indication of the type of issues that could arise from this person. It is a very loud message to your dh to be extremely careful

ACynicalDad · 23/03/2026 15:50

It feels very 1980's for wives to be available for husband's work trips, it probably should have gone out with car phones. You'll have to trust him now!

IwouldlikeanewTV · 23/03/2026 15:47

My partner’s company always allows partner/another to join if the room is the same rate. Partners pay for meals etc. Some evenings my partner is expected to go out for a meal with colleagues. I stay in the hotel room on those nights. Other nights he has free time so we go out with whoever we want. It’s not compulsory to socialise with work colleagues. I thought this was the norm.

MrsAvocet · 23/03/2026 15:45

I've got mixed feelings.Since I retired I have been with DH a few times when he has been working abroad. But I have only been if he is either going to be completely alone in the evenings or it's a big conference or meeting where there are going to be loads of people around. DH likes the company if he's travelling alone and if the work finishes at a weekend or he can take leave we've been known to stay on for a day or two to do some sight seeing together afterwards.
I pay my own way apart from the room which is the same cost whether I'm there or not (and he always asks the company beforehand) and I keep well clear of the work side of things. If there are any after work dinners I just eat on my own in the hotel.
However I wouldn't go if he was travelling with one or a small number of colleagues, even though I know quite a few of them and they probably wouldn't mind. I think it would still potentially be a bit disruptive or awkward for the others. And I never go on "ordinary" work trips in this country. I have absolutely no desire to share a Premier Inn breakfast with one of DH's junior staff when the two of them are visiting a supplier in Northampton.
I think it's ok as an occasional thing if the company know and agree and the accompanying spouse keeps themselves largely to themselves. DH's company get a lot of unpaid work out of him and they know it. Facilitating what amounts to two slightly discounted city breaks for me in the last three years when he was abroad on his own is a very easy way for them to keep him happy. But I think you do have to be considerate to any other people on work trips. If I was away with a few colleagues and the others had all brought their spouses along I wouldn't be very comfortable, certainly not if it was a regular occurrence. Context is important.

Annonymiss123 · 23/03/2026 15:45

Jk987 · 23/03/2026 14:01

I think it’s weird that all the wives tag along and then have a date night with husband after the working day.

Same. I'm the one in our relationship who occasionally travels for work. DH would HATE to come along and I'd hate to have him there too. Not coz I'm off doing something I shouldn't, but because my colleagues & I go for dinner in the evenings after the work day and DH wouldn't enjoy that. As well as discussing the events of the day / planning strategy for the next day, it's also a chance to bond with colleagues outside of the office environment. ( * ) I couldn't image telling my colleagues that I couldn't meet up with them because I had a date with my DH.
( * ) None of us have shagged each other yet!

Holdmybeermoment · 23/03/2026 15:45

CanterThroughChaos · 23/03/2026 15:43

I thought you were going to say she felt left out which would be understandable. The reason for the complaint is a bit odd. But regardless it was a good perk while it lasted…. and now it’s gone. It’s not unfair to you, you don’t work for the company, you were never entitled to it. Of course an employer will prioritise the morale of an employee over people’s wives. It will promote inclusion within the team, give it a few trips and you won’t be missed, they will have their own little friendship group and socialise more closely with each other.

If they’re not being paid for their time outside of working hours then his boss cannot make rules about who he has dinner with. I’d stay well away from that woman. She’s going to find herself with no one at work who wants to socialise with her.

ThatPearlkitty · 23/03/2026 15:44

Sweetmarzipan · 23/03/2026 14:00

There’s no way the presence of spouses would have had any impact whatsoever on the profitability of the company, if anything it created a happy community.

I have no idea what they did for lunch but we had booked a pub for dinner. My husband did not invite her but his colleague invited her to have a meal with him and his wife in the hotel but she declined.

I never saw her or the male colleague for that matter.

Everyone was sent a standard email but husband and male colleague were spoken to and given the reason with apologies but male colleague was told that these company now had to tread carefully.

im guessing it would not go down well for the next event if you book separately but then still meet up for lunch ect ? (unless you did it mi9 style and kept it secret)

wishingonastar101 · 23/03/2026 15:44

I think there is more to this... maybe she is having an affair with one of the guys?

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