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Husband’s female colleague’s issue being taken very seriously.

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Sweetmarzipan · 23/03/2026 13:28

So background. DH works in a fairly male dominated industry.

When he first started in this company he would be away fairly often. One or two nights away every 4/6 weeks. One week in April and the odd conference.

I almost always went with him if I could for no other reason than the free hotel. If there were other colleagues they would have have their spouses with them as well. We became friends with many of them and still socialise. Irrelevant to my post but we always had separate bills and we never exploited expenses and we never saw other colleagues do this either but obviously the room was the same price regardless of occupancy.

Covid came along and other ways of doing things came about so audits etc were done remotely and these trips are now few and far between.

Last week I did join him for the first time in probably 6 months. He was leaving the centre with a male colleague in his fifties and a female colleague (mid thirties but I don’t know if anyone will find ages relevant) who had joined the company around three to six months ago (DH and colleague differ on the dates).

As they left to check into hotel the female colleague asked if they were eating, but they said that they had their wives with them and the male colleague said that she was welcome to join them but she declined. We had booked a pub meal on our own.

They were all together on Friday but over the weekend she has made a complaint suggesting that I and the other colleague’s wife had deliberately tagged along as they believed she would be unprofessional and inappropriate.

An email has now gone out saying that spouses are no longer able to tag along.

Colleague was spoken to face to face and the bosses did seem apologetic. DH was on a site and saw the email and was phoned by one of the directors again with apologies.

Surely she should have been told about the culture of the company. I am really gobsmacked. Two other wives have texted me this morning and they feel the same. We had a really nice lifestyle there which is bound to have created a nice work environment.

OP posts:
AD1509 · 23/03/2026 16:30

Outside of working hours and thus paid hours employees should be free to choose what they would like to do. She sounds dry, miserable and won’t have made
any positive working relationships here

Bist · 23/03/2026 16:30

Calliopespa · 23/03/2026 16:03

I'm afraid that was my first thought: she felt a bit thwarted and thought she'd clear the decks to have a free runway next time!

Honestly some people just need to learn to shut up when it really isn't their business.

And I e never worked anywhere where extra marital affairs are a thing. Maybe 20 years ago but it is seen as totally unethical in the post me too days. It would be a minimum of a written warning if you were caught where I work. But then I can’t imagine who would want to. These are work colleagues. It isn’t a night club.

Tableforjoan · 23/03/2026 16:27

Next email.

All staff must spend dinner and at least 1 hour at the bar together.

Next email.

All staff will share bunks.

😂😂

Octavia64 · 23/03/2026 16:26

I used to do this sometimes but not for a couple of decades to be honest.

I’ve done my own work trips more recently and they had scheduled evening activities - eg conferences or similar. Spouses would not have been welcome.

ExH worked in financial services (still does) and I think it’s a lot less acceptable now.

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 23/03/2026 16:25

Well she's not exactly ensuring that any colleagues want to sit with her in future is she? I hope you can still all meet up, albeit not on official work trips.

SerendipityJane · 23/03/2026 16:25

ResponsiblePopcorn · 23/03/2026 16:19

Some of these comments about the woman on here is exactly why she will not want to share her free time with her colleagues wives. She calls out an archaic practice and people are questioning her mental health and moral compass. Yes, let's ostracise maneater! FGS.

Most men are misogynists - but it takes a woman to perfect it ..

in my experience.

UnctuousUnicorns · 23/03/2026 16:25

ResponsiblePopcorn · 23/03/2026 16:19

Some of these comments about the woman on here is exactly why she will not want to share her free time with her colleagues wives. She calls out an archaic practice and people are questioning her mental health and moral compass. Yes, let's ostracise maneater! FGS.

Yet, equally, some on here seem to have a problem with workers wanting to spend their evenings and nights with their spouses/partners, suggesting that these S/Ps are somehow jealous and controlling, (Stepford Wives FFS?) which to me seems just as ridiculous. As usual, women putting other women down. Thus it ever was.

Bellaboo01 · 23/03/2026 16:25

I personally think that it is completely unprofessional. I've only ever done this if i was away for work on my own without other colleagues.

PoppinjayPolly · 23/03/2026 16:25

Calliopespa · 23/03/2026 16:19

She’s a young woman being ignored by older male colleagues

She wasn't being ignored: she was invited to join.

She just wasn't the centre of attention.🙄

This! So the company are now saying that “like it or not you’ll socialise”??
unless I got paid 24/7 for the whole trip, that’s a no!
are the going to enforce the topic of conversation as well?

wordler · 23/03/2026 16:24

Again - if these work trips are not special work events where socializing is expected after the end of the work day, how is it different going up to your room to spend the rest of your day with your spouse/family and going home to your own house and doing the same thing.

You do your 9-5 and then the rest of the day is yours to do what you want.

Some people have clearly only been on work trip where networking or evening events / planning is required.

For those who are simply working away from the home base on a regular basis there is absolutely no need to involved colleagues in your evenings.

SerendipityJane · 23/03/2026 16:23

Hellometime · 23/03/2026 16:15

Some colleagues may need a family member with them due to disability or health needs. My male colleague used to travel to conferences his wife attended due to her disability.

But then they are attending as a carer, not a +1.

GarlicFound · 23/03/2026 16:22

PinkArt · 23/03/2026 16:11

I do hope Ms Complaint enjoys playing corporate totty at the next trip away - and hope the men don't join her for dinner or drinks!

This kind of outdated, misogynistic bollocks sounds like the shit she's up against at work. She isn't 'playing corporate totty', she's a woman at work, doing her job that - given we know it's a male dominated field - she's likely better at than the men who work there. She's no more corporate totty than the OP's husband is, but he's framed as 'the men' who should exclude her.

OP, I get why it's annoying but I'm team female colleague. It's already hard being a woman in a male dominated industry. It makes it harder still when on a work trip the only other women there are 'the wives' and she's found herself excluded socially because everyone else has brought 'the wives' along for a jolly. It sounds like the bad old days when business was done at the pub or on the golf course and anyone who wasn't part of the boys club at those social events mysteriously missed out on promotions. What you call 'a really nice lifestyle there which is bound to have created a nice work environment' clearly did nothing of the sort for what sounds like the only women on the team.

I'd be with you on the potential challenges of working in a team of older men - if she hadn't complained specifically about the wives. If her grounds for complaint were as retold to OP, then she is 'playing corporate totty'. If it was more about lacking opportunity to socialise with the team, she should have said she was disappointed the men didn't want a group evening instead of moaning that the wives were there.

So she either sees herself as a temptation being warded off by jealous wives, or she's extremely bad at making a reasonable point with clarity. She doesn't get my vote.

WarmHare · 23/03/2026 16:20

ProudAmberTurtle · 23/03/2026 13:39

I think she is right that it was a little inappropriate.

However, complaining about it and ruining everyone's fun, seems ridiculous. And the management changing everything over this seems pathetic

Why was it inappropriate? Genuinely, seems like they just go to spend the evening with their spouses and their colleagues spouses, it’s out of work time, they cover their own tabs etc…. I’ve met up with friends if they are in my city for work, even hung out in their hotel room & ordered room service (covered my own tab)

Am I missing something? As a few people have said it’s inappropriate

ResponsiblePopcorn · 23/03/2026 16:19

Some of these comments about the woman on here is exactly why she will not want to share her free time with her colleagues wives. She calls out an archaic practice and people are questioning her mental health and moral compass. Yes, let's ostracise maneater! FGS.

Calliopespa · 23/03/2026 16:19

theresnolimits · 23/03/2026 16:10

Good for her. She’s a young woman being ignored by older male colleagues and she hasn't ‘put up and shut up’. Rather than being allowed to network with her colleagues, she’s being sent to her room.

I cannot see how this practice was acceptable, either tax wise or in terms of equality. And I don’t believe for a moment anyone mature enough to raise this would say it was to protect those poor male employees - unless someone has made a very unwise comment to her along these lines and then she has every right to complain about being framed in those terms.

She’s a young woman being ignored by older male colleagues

She wasn't being ignored: she was invited to join.

She just wasn't the centre of attention.🙄

Changename12 · 23/03/2026 16:18

Bist · 23/03/2026 15:56

And? You don’t have to drink alcohol in a bar these days. I’ve never met anyone from any background who’d objected to being in a hotel bar.

Maybe you haven’t been around anyone who doesn’t drink on religious grounds. Maybe they don’t like being round other people who have had 3/4 drinks.

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 23/03/2026 16:17

Hellometime · 23/03/2026 16:15

Some colleagues may need a family member with them due to disability or health needs. My male colleague used to travel to conferences his wife attended due to her disability.

Which is completely different from people going along “just because”

AmgryWife · 23/03/2026 16:16

DH’s coworker is a problem child. She’s created negative feelings all around and will “pay” for that in subtle ways (e.g. lack of support) until she ultimately leaves because she doesn’t “fit into the culture.” Do your best to let it go so it doesn’t affect DH’s career. It was a nice perk while it lasted but now that’s over.

busyd4y · 23/03/2026 16:16

canisquaeso · 23/03/2026 15:07

This is probably just a generational difference. The idea of going on a work trip that involves dinner and hotel with couples feels straight out of Mad Men to me.

Sorry she burst all of your bubbles. I don’t think she was outrageously wrong or anything, she should have been told in advance you can take plus ones (which I honestly don’t understand how, I’ve worked in
hotels and if a double was booked for 1 adult,
it was strictly for 1 adult).

Did they take away the second person's pillows, bath towel and free tea bags? How did that work, presumably the guest was charged as if there were two people in the room

Hellometime · 23/03/2026 16:15

Some colleagues may need a family member with them due to disability or health needs. My male colleague used to travel to conferences his wife attended due to her disability.

Gardenquestion22 · 23/03/2026 16:14

theresnolimits · 23/03/2026 16:10

Good for her. She’s a young woman being ignored by older male colleagues and she hasn't ‘put up and shut up’. Rather than being allowed to network with her colleagues, she’s being sent to her room.

I cannot see how this practice was acceptable, either tax wise or in terms of equality. And I don’t believe for a moment anyone mature enough to raise this would say it was to protect those poor male employees - unless someone has made a very unwise comment to her along these lines and then she has every right to complain about being framed in those terms.

This is a really weird take. As a young professional woman she shouldn't be relying on her 'older male colleagues' to keep her company. And one of them also asked her out to dinner!

Krakinou · 23/03/2026 16:14

Are you sure you have the full story? It just doesn’t sound plausible. It seems more likely she’s complained about feeling excluded at lunch or maybe even in meetings, and the bro clique at the office gossiped up the part about her wanting their wives out the picture.

Hellometime · 23/03/2026 16:13

It’s not just wives, lots of women bring husbands.
Eg one conference is at a luxury golf resort. It costs same for company whether it’s a room booked for 1 or 2 there are only double bed rooms. He has to drive there and gets mileage no different if just him or both of us in car.
In evening there’s a gala dinner one night - plus 1 ticket is available to buy I don’t usually bother.
Other evenings up to them what they do. Some may go to bar. Some prefer to go to spa for a beauty treatment. Some may have work to do and head to room.

canisquaeso · 23/03/2026 16:13

iamtryingtobecivil · 23/03/2026 15:21

Screams personality disorder to me - I can’t have company so I will make it about me and manipulate this…

Advise your DH to be very cautious around her as this is a massive red flag

Absurd take lol

UnctuousUnicorns · 23/03/2026 16:12

Carciofilover · 23/03/2026 15:56

We used to do this when our DC were preschoolers, supplementing the allowance my DH was given for the room and paying for food. It allowed us, and other colleagues’ families, some mini breaks and, as you say, gave us a sense of community. What a sad, twisted mind this woman has. How bitter she is.

There was a point in the past when DH was allocated a budget which probably would have enabled us to accompany him on work trips, had we got cheap flights and stayed in cheapie Ibis type hotels. It never happened, because before we got the opportunity, they changed it to him paying for everything himself at first, keeping records and getting the costs refunded later. It's by the by (is that how you spell that?) now anyway, as work trips away are a thing of the past. They've gone the way of having your spouse/partner accompany you to Christmas etc. meals out - that was stopped ages ago due to budget cuts.