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AIBU to say no when my nearly 6-year-old wants ballet flats?

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HannahW2768 · 22/03/2026 22:46

Hello dont know if chose correct topic but am I wrong/unreasonable for this?
My son who is almost 6 years old was with me when I went into clarks to buy myself some work shoes the other day and he really really liked the pair of ballet flats I got and said he wants a pair like them for himself
I told him no as these are for girls and people may not like him wearing them but was that wrong to do and should I have said yes and got him similar pair in his size?

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lemoncurdcupcake · 23/03/2026 09:08

FineDayForCricket · 23/03/2026 08:43

So be a good little boy and conform ?

That's what you're teaching

"Don't step outside the box because the world might be cruel. It's not the bully's fault they are being cruel, it's yours for daring to express yourself"

Well said!

My son loves pink. Proper hot pink, loves it! Yes people have made comments, and they have been hurtful. So we discuss how all through life there will be a percentage of people who take issue with the hair/clothes/job/house/whatever of others and ultimately everyone has a choice. You can conform to their opinion/societal expectations or you can say 'I like this and it's okay for me to like it, you're welcome to your opinion but I disagree'. I remember a friend of mine being admonished by an old lady for dressing her baby daughter in blue. My friends response was 'but you're wearing blue'!

I've offered that he can switch from his hot pink rain coat to something more school colours, but he's decided that he likes his coat and so why not. Not breaking any school rules, and means he's visible by the road.

Proudest day ever when someone told me he'd responded to being asked if he was a girl (due to the coat) with something along the lines of that he likes it and that doesn't stop him being a boy, but then followed it up with something about this kids older sister being able to kick both their butts (she's really into kickboxing) and how she wouldn't really like hearing him saying being a girl like it's a bad thing (not verbatim what was said, I wasn't there, but that was the vibe). This is the type of human I want to raise, content in themselves, understanding that not everyone will like what you do and then choosing what to do and not do based on their own decisions. Sod the bullies.

The negative 'Like a girl' narrative starts so young.

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Still would have vetoed the ballet flats though, for DS or DD. Naff all support or grip.

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godmum56 · 23/03/2026 09:07

Drippingfeed · 23/03/2026 00:00

But...but...they might make him trans!!!!! Fate worse than death on here.
Reminds me of "boys playing house will make them gay" from the 50s. Exact same playbook.

this. I have got extraordinarily wide feet. When I was a small child, some 65 years ago, the winter school shoes all the other girls had were too narrow for me so I had "boys' s shoes" The best pair I had were Bata Wayfinders with a compass hidden in the inside of the heel of the shoe. I am neither gay nor trans.

PS https://elht.nhs.uk/services/integrated-therapy-service/common-early-years-conditions/common-early-years-conditions

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 23/03/2026 08:57

So much depressing engrained sexism on this thread.

I hope no one saying no to them is gender critical!

AnAppleAWeek · 23/03/2026 08:55

Duckyfondant · 22/03/2026 22:52

Girls' and boys' feet are not the same. Nothing wrong with making that clear at a young age.

🤣🤣🤣

CatchingLeaves · 23/03/2026 08:52

I came on thinking you were talking about a girl, and still would've said its a waste of money as theyre impractical for playing and not supportive for walking far.
Get him some crocs if he wants some slip on shoes for the garden.

icantbelievet23432 · 23/03/2026 08:49

It's worth understanding that boys and girls will always want to wear what they want, and the ones who aren't allowed by very strict parents are going to be the ones who really "wish they were the opposite sex" in order to do those things.

So, I'd allow it. You don't want your child wanting a BODY change just to wear certain clothes/shoes.

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 23/03/2026 08:48

Allisgoodtoday · 23/03/2026 08:22

I would have bought him a pair, but explained how they don't give very good support for feet because of their flat construction, and therefore they were to be used as 'house shoes' for padding about the house in rather than as regular shoes. He'd have had a regular pair of shoes for outdoors/school.
I'd have said just the same to a 6 year old girl.

And I'm in my 60s, my parenting days were long before all this gendering/trans or whatever debate was raging.

I think I'd do the same, except I would pay £40 - I'd get him a pair second hand

NightIbble · 23/03/2026 08:46

As somene who has fitted childrens shoes for over 20 years tere is very little difference between boys feet and girls feet except boys are slightly wider on average. That said you can have girls with wide feet and boys with narrow. Clarks do kids trainers in many different colours and the size doesn't change just because it's pink or blue.
I have wide feet and often wear mens trainers as they fit better. As long as the shoes fit then it wouldn't bother me what the style was.
That said I wouldn't put slip on shoes on a child that small as they will not fit and are not good for running around in. If there is decent growing room they will slip and otherwise will last 5 mins. You don't want them gripping the shoes with their toes to keep them on as they will get calluses on the tops of their toes and could permanently damage growing feet.

FineDayForCricket · 23/03/2026 08:43

LondonPapa · 23/03/2026 08:25

The issue is you’re setting your kid up to be bullied in later life. Or now.

So be a good little boy and conform ?

That's what you're teaching

"Don't step outside the box because the world might be cruel. It's not the bully's fault they are being cruel, it's yours for daring to express yourself"

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 23/03/2026 08:40

I voted Yanbu on the basis that ballet flats are not supportive enough for a 6 year old’s feet.

FineDayForCricket · 23/03/2026 08:40

Anywherebuthere · 23/03/2026 08:11

Huge difference in trainers and 'girly' flats.

Trainers also come in all shapes and colours for both boys and girls. But ballet flats in pink are obviously for girls.

But you do you. We can all choose what we would and wouldn't buy for kids without judgement from other parents

  1. Not all ballet flats are pink
  2. Pink isn't just for girls
  3. What do you think male ballet dancers wear?
FineDayForCricket · 23/03/2026 08:37

1415isgreat · 23/03/2026 07:46

But trainers are not for boys? 😕

And ballet pumps aren't for girls

icantbelievet23432 · 23/03/2026 08:36

Greentrainers · 23/03/2026 06:39

There was a brief moment where movements like let clothes be clothes were extremely popular. It was all about how girls or boys can wear clothes/ play with toys ‘for’ the opposite sex, and that was okay - didn’t change anything about them etc! It was breaking down sexist stereotypes.
However, sexist stereotypes are very much ‘in’ again, and this time he’ll have people telling him he’s really a girl! So no, unfortunately I don’t think you were being unreasonable given the climate. But I probably would’ve told him that theyre too expensive/ doesn’t need more. I think telling him things he wants are for girls, could make him feel some gender dysphoria. I know as a child I felt that way as I wanted Lego and cars which were for boys!

Edited

I'd say if the "climate" is bad, challenge it!

I've buzzcut my hair, to show the girls at school it's perfectly fine, I'm still a mummy, I haven't changed sex!

WhatAPavalova · 23/03/2026 08:34

My DD has had “boys” shoes but my DS never had girls shoes as girls shoes can be more flimsy/ not always practical for a 6 year old. If he really wanted pink trainers, I’d say yes.
Unlike pp I think girls and boys feet are the same.

icantbelievet23432 · 23/03/2026 08:34

Darkladyofthesonnets · 23/03/2026 00:47

I support trans rights far more than is generally the case on mumsnet. I wouldn't have bought the ballet flats though - at his age he is unaware of the reception he might get wearing them. There is a huge amount of discrimination against trans people who don't easily pass and if I could dissuade a child from exploring this idea I would - for their sake.

It's weird you support stereotyping.

My son wears what he wants, and being preemptive of bullying is overproctection. He's never been bullied for what he wears. In fact, when he wears pink, girls just love it, and boys are impressed because they like pink too (who doesn't) but aren't brave enough to wear it.

Whatever he wears, he's still a boy due to his biology alone!

FineDayForCricket · 23/03/2026 08:34

Greentrainers · 23/03/2026 06:39

There was a brief moment where movements like let clothes be clothes were extremely popular. It was all about how girls or boys can wear clothes/ play with toys ‘for’ the opposite sex, and that was okay - didn’t change anything about them etc! It was breaking down sexist stereotypes.
However, sexist stereotypes are very much ‘in’ again, and this time he’ll have people telling him he’s really a girl! So no, unfortunately I don’t think you were being unreasonable given the climate. But I probably would’ve told him that theyre too expensive/ doesn’t need more. I think telling him things he wants are for girls, could make him feel some gender dysphoria. I know as a child I felt that way as I wanted Lego and cars which were for boys!

Edited

Cars and Lego aren't for boys (there's a big thing at the moment about Let Her Build from Lego)

By your logic we shouldn't ever question stereotypes or try to challenge them because people might mock and instead should just conform

What a sad state of affairs

StephensLass1977 · 23/03/2026 08:26

You are his mother. If you don't want him to have them, for ANY reason, say no! Kids cannot just get whatever they want!

LondonPapa · 23/03/2026 08:25

BeenChangedForGood · 22/03/2026 22:54

@HannahW2768 I really hate the “they’re for girls” thing 🙄🙄 I have a DS the same age and he picks and wears what he likes - what’s the issue with it?!

That being said - I would have said no to the ballet flats for both boys and girls on the grounds that they’re terrible for little feet & completely impractical for playing in 🤷🏻‍♀️

The issue is you’re setting your kid up to be bullied in later life. Or now.

Allisgoodtoday · 23/03/2026 08:22

I would have bought him a pair, but explained how they don't give very good support for feet because of their flat construction, and therefore they were to be used as 'house shoes' for padding about the house in rather than as regular shoes. He'd have had a regular pair of shoes for outdoors/school.
I'd have said just the same to a 6 year old girl.

And I'm in my 60s, my parenting days were long before all this gendering/trans or whatever debate was raging.

user2848502016 · 23/03/2026 08:17

I’d have got him a cheap pair to play dressing up with at home
I would have done the same for a girl, they’re not the type of shoe I’d want any child wearing for long periods of time

Imdunfer · 23/03/2026 08:15

Anywherebuthere · 23/03/2026 08:11

Huge difference in trainers and 'girly' flats.

Trainers also come in all shapes and colours for both boys and girls. But ballet flats in pink are obviously for girls.

But you do you. We can all choose what we would and wouldn't buy for kids without judgement from other parents

Putting aside how bad they are for feet, can you articulate why a boy shouldn't wear pink ballet flats if he likes them or a girl a pair of black trainers with spiderman on the side?

Don't you think that's part of how we got into the trans pickle, girls thinking they must be male if they want to wear clothes designed for boys, and vice versa?

SooooAIBU · 23/03/2026 08:14

I voted YANBU simply because ballet flats are terrible for children’s feet. They need shoes which are supportive and that they don’t have to curl up their toes to stop them from slipping off their feet.

Anywherebuthere · 23/03/2026 08:14

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Its actually interesting to read the opinions of others.

Imdunfer · 23/03/2026 08:12

1415isgreat · 23/03/2026 07:46

But trainers are not for boys? 😕

There definitely are trainers, usually black, sold in boys sections in shoe shops, so the point was valid.

It's 2026, for gods sakes, are mothers still making these decisions on the basis that the target market was gender orientated?

Anywherebuthere · 23/03/2026 08:11

PollyBell · 22/03/2026 23:25

So if a girl wanted to wear trainers she should be told no they are for boys you have to wear pink and ''girlie'' shoes only?

Huge difference in trainers and 'girly' flats.

Trainers also come in all shapes and colours for both boys and girls. But ballet flats in pink are obviously for girls.

But you do you. We can all choose what we would and wouldn't buy for kids without judgement from other parents

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