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Why are people trying to downplay how awful this is?

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:18

We got the news a couple of weeks ago that a colleague’s wife is terminally ill. Their daughter is only 23. It is so awful and I can’t stop thinking about them.

I was talking to another colleague about the situation. We are all good friends as well as colleagues and have been for many years, so know the family well. The colleague I was speaking to agreed it was awful and said she knew how they felt because she’d lost her father in her 40s. I lost my mother in my 30s and I said it wasn’t the same as being 23, and that our parents had both died suddenly, we didn’t have to endure watching it happen slowly. She immediately said ‘my uncle died slowly in my 20s, I know exactly what they’re going through’.

And then another colleague mentioned yesterday that she also knew exactly what the family was going through because her grandad had cancer in his 70s.

I just don’t understand this attitude of trying to shoehorn your own experience into this family tragedy.

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saraclara · 21/03/2026 22:39

It's what people do. They find some kind of connection to try to deal with the news they've been given.

My daughters were 20 and 22 when they helped me nurse their dad through his terminal cancer, to his death at home, with the three of us sitting with him and and sharing happy memories as he slipped away. I'm glad we had that time. I can't imagine losing someone suddenly, and not having time to say goodbye, or all the other things that one wants to say.

Did people say things that were a bit daft, during the period when he was ill? Yes, but apart from one spectacularly crass comment at a different level, it didn't bother me. I didn't have the head space to be offended, and I recognised that people were doing their best.

I get your irritation, but it really isn't worth dwelling on. People are imperfect.

Notmyreality · 21/03/2026 22:38

landlordhell · 21/03/2026 22:35

This. People can only call on their own experience . Stop policing them.

Yup

Notmyreality · 21/03/2026 22:38

Followthesunshine · 21/03/2026 21:24

Why are you trying to rank other people's experience of grief? What do you want people to say in this situation, they said it's awful and showed empathy.

Exactly.

MrsMillyFluff · 21/03/2026 22:36

Nothing is comparable to anothers grief. I lost my darling nana aged 91 , she was more like my mother, I'll never get over it, yet I've lost people who would be deemed closer to me and not felt the pain I did when I lost my beautiful nana. Stop comparing others grief for goodness sake!

pizzaHeart · 21/03/2026 22:36

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:42

This is very interesting. I’ve always been grateful that I didn’t have to watch my mother suffer, and had never considered it your way. Perhaps we are naturally built to try and look for the best in situations.

I would still never express that I know what you’ve gone through though, because I don’t.

People often mention their own experience just to show that they can relate and understand. Of course none of us knows what the other has gone through but having similar experience does help. It’s not like only people experienced very similar circumstances have a say, it doesnt work like this because you don’t know all circumstances.
Even siblings can feel very differently - when my Dad died my sibling and I had absolutely different feelings, it’s like we were talking about different people. My sibling is still grieving and upset more than 2 years later. I’m not.

Whyischocolatebadforyou · 21/03/2026 22:36

I had to watch my dad die slowly of cancer when I was 12 - 15. Yes it's awful. Other people can't make it better and I don't think ranking grief helps anyone.

landlordhell · 21/03/2026 22:35

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 21/03/2026 21:21

I think you're being unnecessarily prescriptive about this, OP, speaking as someone who lost her father at 20. They're calling on their experience of grief to help them empathise. I don't think that's terrible.

This. People can only call on their own experience . Stop policing them.

YesssSpringHasSprung · 21/03/2026 22:35

My oldest friend is terminally ill. Her daughter is a young teenager. It’s completely unbearable to be honest.
So I hear you OP.

RantyRant3555 · 21/03/2026 22:34

People were trying to empathise and say that they know (some) of what this person may be going through now (colleague who lost someone to extended illness) or may go through when their mother dies.

None of it will match the individual current experience and future grief of your colleague or their daughter.

Whatever you meant in the way you said it, the comes across to me not as “none of us can know what this individual will experience so we shouldn’t compare” but more “losing a parent when you are older or losing an uncle isn’t as painful as what a 23 year old with a mother with terminal illness will experience, thus downplaying.

ScarletCandle · 21/03/2026 22:33

Winderwall · 21/03/2026 22:31

I was sitting in a chemo suite having treatment only yesterday. My children are only 7, 8 and 10. I chatted to the man sitting next to me who had been misdiagnosed for 3 years until finally being diagnosed and given less than a year, he has a son of 14. There is a mum at my childrens primary school who has a 7 year old is very unlikely to still be here next Christmas. When you talk in terms of leaving behind young children I don’t consider 23 to be in that bracket. It is young to lose a parent but you are an adult.

That’s very true, I saw young children and younger women than me having cancer treatment when I was in the chemotherapy rooms.

shouldicontactthisperson · 21/03/2026 22:33

It’s kind of ironic that some posters are berating you for making assumptions about your colleagues’ experiences, but at the same time implying it’s ok for your colleagues to say they “know” how this 23 year old feels. Nobody knows how anyone else feels, at the end of the day.

sallymonella · 21/03/2026 22:32

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:12

Exactly. No idea why they’re insistent upon saying that they ‘know how they feel’.

They do know how it feels to lose a parent, that's the bit they are empathising with. Not the actual details of the death as everybody's circumstances are different.

Winderwall · 21/03/2026 22:31

I was sitting in a chemo suite having treatment only yesterday. My children are only 7, 8 and 10. I chatted to the man sitting next to me who had been misdiagnosed for 3 years until finally being diagnosed and given less than a year, he has a son of 14. There is a mum at my childrens primary school who has a 7 year old is very unlikely to still be here next Christmas. When you talk in terms of leaving behind young children I don’t consider 23 to be in that bracket. It is young to lose a parent but you are an adult.

Rosecoffeecup · 21/03/2026 22:30

Maybe your colleague is bringing her own experience in to the conversation because its a completely pointless dialogue to be having

Are you all just meant to sit there orating over how shit it is for the daughter like a load of gossips?

ScarletCandle · 21/03/2026 22:30

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:25

Because I know they haven’t lost their parents or ever been told their parent has a terminal illness. Obviously.

My friend’s Dad died when we were in our early 20s. Another friend’s mother was terminally ill at that time. It doesn’t get any easier as we get older.

Dollymylove · 21/03/2026 22:30

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:25

Because I know they haven’t lost their parents or ever been told their parent has a terminal illness. Obviously.

Or perhaps they havent told you that they have lost someone close, lest you start ranking their place on the grief-o-meter

D0RA · 21/03/2026 22:30

usedtobeaylis · 21/03/2026 21:39

I think people are just trying to relate. It's what humans do, even if it's clumsy at times.

This. I think you are judging people who mean well. It’s hard to know what to say when you hear about these tragic situations.

GlassHalfFullplease · 21/03/2026 22:30

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:24

The woman isn’t dead.

We are talking about death, and grief. The woman is going to die as you've pointed out, and you're making it into a competition imho. The majority of people on here disagree with you. All opinions are valid, including yours op, but we do not have to agree.

Redrosesposies · 21/03/2026 22:29

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:43

That’s exactly what I’m saying. There is no need to clamour to say your own situation was just as bad and so you know what they’re going through. You don’t.

You are confidently asserting that other people don't know what that family are feeling yet you are equally confident in your assesment of how awful it is for the family.
You don't know. They may be a pragmatic, unemotional family who deal with death without drama and histrionics.
You are in fact making it all about you and how distraught you feel.

Butchyrestingface · 21/03/2026 22:26

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:24

None of this explains why people who haven’t been in that person’s situation need to say that they know what they’re going through because of a completely different situation, though.

It’s just throw away attempts at relating/empathy.

It doesn’t mean they’re trying to “downplay” the situation.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:25

Dollymylove · 21/03/2026 22:23

How do you know that they dont know what that person is going through?

Because I know they haven’t lost their parents or ever been told their parent has a terminal illness. Obviously.

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:24

GlassHalfFullplease · 21/03/2026 22:22

Death is death, it is the only thing the whole of humanity has in common; grief has no place for competitiveness.

The woman isn’t dead.

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ScarletCandle · 21/03/2026 22:24

It’s shocking when a parent dies at any age. People try to empathise based on their own experiences of grief. It’s not perfect, but it’s human.

LizzieSiddal · 21/03/2026 22:24

Andepeda · 21/03/2026 21:56

I lost mine at 8, I think that makes me the winner.

What a repulsive thread.

Flowers Agree so much with this. It’s so distasteful and disrespectful.

Most people have lost someone and no one has the right to make assumptions about what they went through.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:24

Butchyrestingface · 21/03/2026 22:21

I lost my only sibling as a child. I wish they’d lived till they were 23 - for their sake, not mine (though they’d still have been very young).

My mum died when I was in my 30s, very suddenly and in circumstances that was quite traumatic. If I follow the OP’s logic, it would have been better had she died when I was in my 40s or 50, so we would have had more time.

I’m not sure I agree with that. I’m glad I didn’t have to deal with a sudden, traumatic death whilst going though peri-menopause and/or menopause at the same time.

Although losing someone at a young age ie terrible, young people tend to be more forward-facing than people in their 50s and beyond. They’re also less likely to have to try to juggle grief alongside caring for young children, elderly relatives, menopause and other illnesses. Those things on top of grief can really take their toll.

None of this explains why people who haven’t been in that person’s situation need to say that they know what they’re going through because of a completely different situation, though.

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