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Why are people trying to downplay how awful this is?

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:18

We got the news a couple of weeks ago that a colleague’s wife is terminally ill. Their daughter is only 23. It is so awful and I can’t stop thinking about them.

I was talking to another colleague about the situation. We are all good friends as well as colleagues and have been for many years, so know the family well. The colleague I was speaking to agreed it was awful and said she knew how they felt because she’d lost her father in her 40s. I lost my mother in my 30s and I said it wasn’t the same as being 23, and that our parents had both died suddenly, we didn’t have to endure watching it happen slowly. She immediately said ‘my uncle died slowly in my 20s, I know exactly what they’re going through’.

And then another colleague mentioned yesterday that she also knew exactly what the family was going through because her grandad had cancer in his 70s.

I just don’t understand this attitude of trying to shoehorn your own experience into this family tragedy.

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Czerwonitz · 21/03/2026 21:51

Who made you the arbiter of other people's grief?

Pistachiocake · 21/03/2026 21:51

Anewerforest · 21/03/2026 21:32

TBH you introduced the idea that this poor girl had it worse than your colleague or yourself. It is very unhelpful to start ranking people's experience of grief.
My mum died slowly while I was in my twenties and it would have been just as terrible if I had been in my thirties. I lost all my grandparents in my teens and only seriously grieved for one of them. Circumstances are so different.

Yes, you can't rank it at all. My friend was 45 and pregnant for the first time when she lost her mum-does that make her situation worse or better? Some people have lots of friends and family to support them, some have a couple of family members who are supportive, some have huge families who don't help them when they're grieving at all. Some have additional learning or health needs-it's not for anyone else to try to rank which is better, or worse.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:50

Goingfor · 21/03/2026 21:48

People are empathising.

It’s not up to you to decide what sort of death is easier than another.

Saying you know what a 23 year old who’s been told her mother is going to die soon is going through when you have never experienced that isn’t empathising. It’s trying to attention seek.

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pimplebum · 21/03/2026 21:50

They are empathising not downplaying

but agree a 70 yr old dying is not same as a 23 losing mum

but id not overthink it put energy into support the fsmily

UncannyFanny · 21/03/2026 21:49

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:33

I lost my mother two years ago in my 30s. I can safely say that I’d take 30s over 23, and certainly wish I had been in my 50s.

I lost a parent at 13. I’d much rather have been 23.

HawthornFairy · 21/03/2026 21:49

I lost both my parents very suddenly in my early twenties…I would very much have preferred to have had even a little time. The shock of the second one turned my hair white overnight.

Maybe don’t rank any grief, any loss. It feels horribly dismissive. It’s all unique.

Alpacajigsaw · 21/03/2026 21:49

I think people often don’t really know what to say so they just say something. I also think trying to rank grief isn’t particularly helpful either.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:49

DestinedToBeOutlived · 21/03/2026 21:47

Maybe stop gossiping about their situation, and people wouldn't need to think of anything to say back to you.

If you start a conversation people will naturally chime in with their own experiences, and it's a bit of a dick move to tell them their loss isn't as bad.

Don’t be ridiculous. We’ve been told that a woman we’ve known for years, decades for some people, is dying. Of course we are going to talk about it, we are all in shock.

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Goingfor · 21/03/2026 21:48

People are empathising.

It’s not up to you to decide what sort of death is easier than another.

DestinedToBeOutlived · 21/03/2026 21:47

Maybe stop gossiping about their situation, and people wouldn't need to think of anything to say back to you.

If you start a conversation people will naturally chime in with their own experiences, and it's a bit of a dick move to tell them their loss isn't as bad.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:46

WhatAMarvelousTune · 21/03/2026 21:36

I think it’s actually awful of you to say anything to a colleague that expresses the view “at least our parents died suddenly”. And then to criticise others for minimising.

That’s not what happened though, is it?

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ginasevern · 21/03/2026 21:46

I know what you're saying OP. My late DH died literally out of the blue, in front of me, at the age of 47. Shortly afterwards I bumped into an old acquaintance in the supermarket. She asked after my husband and I told her he had died suddenly (not all the gory details obviously). And she immediately said that she knew just what I was going through because her mum had died the previous year. Her mum was 93 and died peacefully at home. She then told me what a rock her husband had been whilst she was grieving. Seemingly oblivious to the fact that my "rock" had died.

plsbekinddelicate · 21/03/2026 21:46

A loss is a loss. It doesn’t matter how old or whether slow or suddenly. I mourn my mum who died suddenly when I was 8 days old as much as my dad who died slowly when I was 39.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:45

skiprun · 21/03/2026 21:33

It’s akin to how I feel when I tell people about my parent who has rapid early onset dementia and they answer with “oh I know exactly what that’s like, my grandparent had it”. Not remotely the same. It’s just making it about them.

Yes, it’s exactly this.

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:44

Essentialnc · 21/03/2026 21:32

I ageee with you @laughloseya It’s going to be very difficult for that young woman.
I Think you might (I don’t know if you definitely do, obviously) feel things very keenly. I know I do - I’m just not very good at letting things wash over me. Do you think this might be the case with you?

This sounds more patronising than intended ..

Maybe, I’m not sure.

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:43

Jc2001 · 21/03/2026 21:32

It's not a competition.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. There is no need to clamour to say your own situation was just as bad and so you know what they’re going through. You don’t.

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:42

Downplayit · 21/03/2026 21:32

I lost my mum in my late 20's to a long terminal illness. I'll always be grateful that it wasnt a sudden death and we had time to prepare and say goodbye. I'm not comparing but I'm perhaps just pointing out that you are using your own experience to judge hers as worse so in effect everyone is looking at this from their own personal perspective. You do lose your parents - its a sad fact of life - but it happens to most people ( in the normal cycle of life). She'll be ok.

This is very interesting. I’ve always been grateful that I didn’t have to watch my mother suffer, and had never considered it your way. Perhaps we are naturally built to try and look for the best in situations.

I would still never express that I know what you’ve gone through though, because I don’t.

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usedtobeaylis · 21/03/2026 21:39

I think people are just trying to relate. It's what humans do, even if it's clumsy at times.

WhatAMarvelousTune · 21/03/2026 21:36

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:32

The loss isn’t easier, but we were both spared watching them die slowly. And we weren’t 23.

I think it’s actually awful of you to say anything to a colleague that expresses the view “at least our parents died suddenly”. And then to criticise others for minimising.

skiprun · 21/03/2026 21:33

It’s akin to how I feel when I tell people about my parent who has rapid early onset dementia and they answer with “oh I know exactly what that’s like, my grandparent had it”. Not remotely the same. It’s just making it about them.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:33

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 21/03/2026 21:26

I mean, OP, have you lost a parent in your 40s or 50s? How do you know whether it's better or worse? Even if you did, why would that entitle you to generalise your experience to everyone? I've lost a parent at 20 and a parent at 48 and I would say that they are just very different very sad experiences. I think you might be in danger of doing the thing you're criticising them for doing.

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I lost my mother two years ago in my 30s. I can safely say that I’d take 30s over 23, and certainly wish I had been in my 50s.

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Essentialnc · 21/03/2026 21:32

I ageee with you @laughloseya It’s going to be very difficult for that young woman.
I Think you might (I don’t know if you definitely do, obviously) feel things very keenly. I know I do - I’m just not very good at letting things wash over me. Do you think this might be the case with you?

This sounds more patronising than intended ..

Anewerforest · 21/03/2026 21:32

TBH you introduced the idea that this poor girl had it worse than your colleague or yourself. It is very unhelpful to start ranking people's experience of grief.
My mum died slowly while I was in my twenties and it would have been just as terrible if I had been in my thirties. I lost all my grandparents in my teens and only seriously grieved for one of them. Circumstances are so different.

Downplayit · 21/03/2026 21:32

I lost my mum in my late 20's to a long terminal illness. I'll always be grateful that it wasnt a sudden death and we had time to prepare and say goodbye. I'm not comparing but I'm perhaps just pointing out that you are using your own experience to judge hers as worse so in effect everyone is looking at this from their own personal perspective. You do lose your parents - its a sad fact of life - but it happens to most people ( in the normal cycle of life). She'll be ok.

Jc2001 · 21/03/2026 21:32

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:18

We got the news a couple of weeks ago that a colleague’s wife is terminally ill. Their daughter is only 23. It is so awful and I can’t stop thinking about them.

I was talking to another colleague about the situation. We are all good friends as well as colleagues and have been for many years, so know the family well. The colleague I was speaking to agreed it was awful and said she knew how they felt because she’d lost her father in her 40s. I lost my mother in my 30s and I said it wasn’t the same as being 23, and that our parents had both died suddenly, we didn’t have to endure watching it happen slowly. She immediately said ‘my uncle died slowly in my 20s, I know exactly what they’re going through’.

And then another colleague mentioned yesterday that she also knew exactly what the family was going through because her grandad had cancer in his 70s.

I just don’t understand this attitude of trying to shoehorn your own experience into this family tragedy.

It's not a competition.

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