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Why are people trying to downplay how awful this is?

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:18

We got the news a couple of weeks ago that a colleague’s wife is terminally ill. Their daughter is only 23. It is so awful and I can’t stop thinking about them.

I was talking to another colleague about the situation. We are all good friends as well as colleagues and have been for many years, so know the family well. The colleague I was speaking to agreed it was awful and said she knew how they felt because she’d lost her father in her 40s. I lost my mother in my 30s and I said it wasn’t the same as being 23, and that our parents had both died suddenly, we didn’t have to endure watching it happen slowly. She immediately said ‘my uncle died slowly in my 20s, I know exactly what they’re going through’.

And then another colleague mentioned yesterday that she also knew exactly what the family was going through because her grandad had cancer in his 70s.

I just don’t understand this attitude of trying to shoehorn your own experience into this family tragedy.

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ChickpeaCauliflowerSalad · 21/03/2026 22:01

ginasevern · 21/03/2026 21:46

I know what you're saying OP. My late DH died literally out of the blue, in front of me, at the age of 47. Shortly afterwards I bumped into an old acquaintance in the supermarket. She asked after my husband and I told her he had died suddenly (not all the gory details obviously). And she immediately said that she knew just what I was going through because her mum had died the previous year. Her mum was 93 and died peacefully at home. She then told me what a rock her husband had been whilst she was grieving. Seemingly oblivious to the fact that my "rock" had died.

I'm so sorry about your DH, that must have been scary & devastating.

Some people are so incredibly self centered. I'm sorry you had to endure her!

CossyBunt · 21/03/2026 22:00

OP, just stop with your hierarchy of pain & suffering. It’s not for you to tell others how they should feel or that their suffering wasn’t as bad, according to your internal, un interrogated rules system.

ThePerfectWeekender · 21/03/2026 22:00

HRTFT but DF died when i was in my early twenties and DM when I was in my forties, both to cancer. The loss of DM felt far harder. You don't get to tell people how the feel or make generalisations when it comes to grieving.
Nothing in my life has ever come close to the loss of DB suddenly aged nineteen. I'd spoken to him an hour before. I went to a dark place for a long time. I don't think a 'quick' death makes it easier than a long drawn out one. We never got to say goodbye or give him anything he wanted before his death. It was horrific.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:00

OriginalSkang · 21/03/2026 21:58

Attention seeking from whom? Why would they need to seek attention from you about this?

Because they like attention. Surely that’s why any attention attention seems.

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UpTheWomen · 21/03/2026 22:00

Policing grief is disrespectful and doesn’t help anyone. Neither does co-opting someone else’s tragic situation as a subject of general conversation. This sounds as though it’s verging on gossip in the workplace, and fairly distasteful. Your colleague whose wife is sick might well be glad of the normality work offers, so rather than make this a competition about who can empathise the most, you could all maintain as normal and familiar an attitude as possible - that would be a less performative way to help.

Kirbert2 · 21/03/2026 22:00

When my son had cancer, I had a family member tell me they knew how I felt because their dog had cancer.

At least they hopefully won't say anything to your colleague.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:59

MxCactus · 21/03/2026 21:55

"The colleague I was speaking to agreed it was awful and said she knew how they felt because she’d lost her father in her 40s. I lost my mother in my 30s and I said it wasn’t the same as being 23"

This is exactly what you're saying here: your colleague doesn't understand because her situation wasn't as bad

We don’t understand. Neither of us was in our early 20s and neither of us has been told our mother is going to die in the next few months. So saying we know what she’s going through just simply is not true. We don’t know.

You’ve made the ‘not as bad’ bit up. This young woman’s mother is not dead.

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DestinedToBeOutlived · 21/03/2026 21:59

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:56

I honestly think talking about people expressing shock and horror that a woman they’ve known for years, and whose husband they are close to, is dying as ‘gossip’ is sickening. Have a word with yourself.

Expressing shock and horror is completely normal.

You sitting there trying to engage others in conversation, waiting for them to say something you dislike, and then berating them for it in order to be the most empathetic person, is absolutely gossiping, and nasty.

BringBackCatsEyes · 21/03/2026 21:59

MxCactus · 21/03/2026 21:51

I find it strange that you seem to think certain deaths are "easier" than others. I think it's very individual - for example my mum was way closer to her gran than either of her parents, and was more upset when her gran died than when her parents did.

I'm also not an animal person but some people genuinely grief a dog dying - personally I think that's ridiculous, but everyone experiences grief differently and I think it's a bit strange when others chime in with their own experiences of grief to say "no you don't understand because your grief wasn't as bad". There isn't a ranking system for grief

I don't think it's strange at all.

I think people are more heartbroken when they hear a child has lost a parent, or when a parent loses a child.
People tend to be more accepting and understanding when an elderly person dies after a long and good life.

Of course every death is different and relationships are complex but in my experience, people are generally more able to cope with a death if it has happened at the 'normal' time.

Charmatt · 21/03/2026 21:58

I lost my Dad when I was 23, but that is a coarse barometer of whether 'it's terrible' or not.
My relationship with my Dad was great, so I had 23 years amazing years of love, care, and quality. I'm in my mid 50s now and some people I know are a similar age, but couldn't say they'd had anywhere near that long in a good relationship with their parents.

Which is worse? A good relationship for a shorter time or a poor relationship for longer? Some people will never experienced a relationship like I had with my Dad - that makes me lucky for having what I had.

OriginalSkang · 21/03/2026 21:58

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:50

Saying you know what a 23 year old who’s been told her mother is going to die soon is going through when you have never experienced that isn’t empathising. It’s trying to attention seek.

Attention seeking from whom? Why would they need to seek attention from you about this?

SunConure · 21/03/2026 21:57

Why are you even worrying about this ? It’s a very minor issue

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:56

DestinedToBeOutlived · 21/03/2026 21:53

What do you want people to say if you're not going to stop gossiping about another family's situation?

You seem to have appointed yourself as some kind of gatekeeper of what people are allowed to say, so why not just dish out a script of what you find acceptable rather than making other people feel like shit for not empathising in a way you deem appropriate.

I honestly think talking about people expressing shock and horror that a woman they’ve known for years, and whose husband they are close to, is dying as ‘gossip’ is sickening. Have a word with yourself.

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Andepeda · 21/03/2026 21:56

UncannyFanny · 21/03/2026 21:49

I lost a parent at 13. I’d much rather have been 23.

I lost mine at 8, I think that makes me the winner.

What a repulsive thread.

MxCactus · 21/03/2026 21:55

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:53

I didn’t say that. Honestly comprehension on this forum gets worse by the day.

"The colleague I was speaking to agreed it was awful and said she knew how they felt because she’d lost her father in her 40s. I lost my mother in my 30s and I said it wasn’t the same as being 23"

This is exactly what you're saying here: your colleague doesn't understand because her situation wasn't as bad

Czerwonitz · 21/03/2026 21:54

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:52

Fucking Hell can people not read?

I can read you deciding a hierarchy

KimberleyClark · 21/03/2026 21:54

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 21/03/2026 21:21

I think you're being unnecessarily prescriptive about this, OP, speaking as someone who lost her father at 20. They're calling on their experience of grief to help them empathise. I don't think that's terrible.

I agree. I lost my dad at 17, doesn’t give me the right to pronounce that my loss was worse than anyone losing their father at any age.

DestinedToBeOutlived · 21/03/2026 21:53

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:49

Don’t be ridiculous. We’ve been told that a woman we’ve known for years, decades for some people, is dying. Of course we are going to talk about it, we are all in shock.

What do you want people to say if you're not going to stop gossiping about another family's situation?

You seem to have appointed yourself as some kind of gatekeeper of what people are allowed to say, so why not just dish out a script of what you find acceptable rather than making other people feel like shit for not empathising in a way you deem appropriate.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:53

Pickledonion1999 · 21/03/2026 21:52

Losing parents suddenly at whatever age is equally horrific but in a different way. No time to prepare, get your head around things, say goodbye. It's bloody traumatic.

It is definitely different.

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:53

MxCactus · 21/03/2026 21:51

I find it strange that you seem to think certain deaths are "easier" than others. I think it's very individual - for example my mum was way closer to her gran than either of her parents, and was more upset when her gran died than when her parents did.

I'm also not an animal person but some people genuinely grief a dog dying - personally I think that's ridiculous, but everyone experiences grief differently and I think it's a bit strange when others chime in with their own experiences of grief to say "no you don't understand because your grief wasn't as bad". There isn't a ranking system for grief

I didn’t say that. Honestly comprehension on this forum gets worse by the day.

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:52

Czerwonitz · 21/03/2026 21:51

Who made you the arbiter of other people's grief?

Fucking Hell can people not read?

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Pickledonion1999 · 21/03/2026 21:52

Losing parents suddenly at whatever age is equally horrific but in a different way. No time to prepare, get your head around things, say goodbye. It's bloody traumatic.

Sensiblesal · 21/03/2026 21:51

I think they are trying to display some kind of empathy for the situation.
sadly I had more than a few school friends who lost parents in early/mid teen kind of age.

I don’t think it matters what age you lose a parent or close family member, you aren’t equipped to deal with it till it happens

MxCactus · 21/03/2026 21:51

I find it strange that you seem to think certain deaths are "easier" than others. I think it's very individual - for example my mum was way closer to her gran than either of her parents, and was more upset when her gran died than when her parents did.

I'm also not an animal person but some people genuinely grief a dog dying - personally I think that's ridiculous, but everyone experiences grief differently and I think it's a bit strange when others chime in with their own experiences of grief to say "no you don't understand because your grief wasn't as bad". There isn't a ranking system for grief

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:51

UncannyFanny · 21/03/2026 21:49

I lost a parent at 13. I’d much rather have been 23.

Of course you would. I think we all know that it’s better to be in your 40s than 50s too.

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