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Why are people trying to downplay how awful this is?

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:18

We got the news a couple of weeks ago that a colleague’s wife is terminally ill. Their daughter is only 23. It is so awful and I can’t stop thinking about them.

I was talking to another colleague about the situation. We are all good friends as well as colleagues and have been for many years, so know the family well. The colleague I was speaking to agreed it was awful and said she knew how they felt because she’d lost her father in her 40s. I lost my mother in my 30s and I said it wasn’t the same as being 23, and that our parents had both died suddenly, we didn’t have to endure watching it happen slowly. She immediately said ‘my uncle died slowly in my 20s, I know exactly what they’re going through’.

And then another colleague mentioned yesterday that she also knew exactly what the family was going through because her grandad had cancer in his 70s.

I just don’t understand this attitude of trying to shoehorn your own experience into this family tragedy.

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Dollymylove · 21/03/2026 22:12

Everyone's grief is personal to themselves. There is no ranking system.
There isnt a league table of who's grief is worse than someone elses
YAUBVU

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:12

PixelDustMom · 21/03/2026 22:08

It’s definitely not a competition. I agree, losing a parent at 23 would be devastating. I lost a parent suddenly, with no goodbyes at age 35. My husband lost a parent at age 29 to a slow painful death. Equally both as painful in their own ways. One thing I have learned is that you don’t compare grief with others.

Exactly. No idea why they’re insistent upon saying that they ‘know how they feel’.

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SammyScrounge · 21/03/2026 22:12

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 21/03/2026 21:21

I think you're being unnecessarily prescriptive about this, OP, speaking as someone who lost her father at 20. They're calling on their experience of grief to help them empathise. I don't think that's terrible.

I agree.

ChickpeaCauliflowerSalad · 21/03/2026 22:12

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 21:56

I honestly think talking about people expressing shock and horror that a woman they’ve known for years, and whose husband they are close to, is dying as ‘gossip’ is sickening. Have a word with yourself.

Have a word with YOURself! You're the one posting in an internet site, about the bad news if a family you claim to be close to & a colleague who didn't say exactly the right thing, who was just showing some empathy when out on the spot by the office judgey pants..

I could post losses to see where you think they fit in your weird grief scheme, but they are unique to me & I don't actually give a fuck what you think about how I should feel about each one.

Somedreamer · 21/03/2026 22:11

You sound like you’re projecting, why so invested? Yes it’s very sad and by all means empathise, but there’s no need to get angry that other people don’t react the way you think they ought to. You’re not the grief police.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:11

Charmatt · 21/03/2026 22:08

That's exactly what I'm saying - you're making it too simplistic because absolutely everyone's experience is different. How long you are with someone and how that relationship all had an impact on how difficult it is for you, both positively and negatively.

Ultimately everyone has a different experience and to think there is a simple hierarchy to grief is wrong.

I don’t know why you keep saying hierarchy. I don’t think I miss my mother more than this young woman will. I do think I have no idea what it is like to be told your mother is going to die in your early 20s. I don’t know what’s hard to grasp about this.

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Helpwithdivorce · 21/03/2026 22:11

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:04

I wouldn’t want to.

What?! You wouldn’t want to say goodbye to your mother/father/sister? That is by far the strangest thing on this thread.
A very close relative of mine is dying slowly. The closest person to me by a long way. We speak daily. Multiple times a day and my biggest fear is her dying without me being able to say goodbye

Tryagain26 · 21/03/2026 22:11

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:08

One was her grandparent. It is just not the same at all.

And perhaps whe was extremely close to her grandparent some people are closer to their grandparents than to their parents.

CaffeinatedMum · 21/03/2026 22:11

You can’t compare or measure grief, you’re being very unreasonable OP. Focus on supporting your colleague and that’s it.

ToadRage · 21/03/2026 22:10

I lost my Dad to cancer when I was 24, so I totally know how she feels but while you feel awful for her, I think you downplaying their grief is worse, you don't know how close these people were to their grandfather or uncle. Everyone has different relationships and feel grief in different ways. Losing a parent is hard but you can't assume that someone whi hasn't lost a parent hadn't experienced their own grief.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:10

Tryagain26 · 21/03/2026 22:07

I'm sorry but you can't quantify grief or predict how people will feel or how they should feel
I lost one parent when I was in my 20s and the other when I was in my 50s. The latter took me much longer to get over.
Every situation is different.
Every bereavement is terrible and knocks you for 6.

Fuck me. These people do not know how this family feels because they have never been in their situation.

How is this hard to understand?

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:08

OriginalSkang · 21/03/2026 22:06

I also don't think they're trying to downplay anything. They're saying that what they went through with their parent dying was awful, and you're downplaying their experiences

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One was her grandparent. It is just not the same at all.

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PixelDustMom · 21/03/2026 22:08

It’s definitely not a competition. I agree, losing a parent at 23 would be devastating. I lost a parent suddenly, with no goodbyes at age 35. My husband lost a parent at age 29 to a slow painful death. Equally both as painful in their own ways. One thing I have learned is that you don’t compare grief with others.

ginasevern · 21/03/2026 22:08

ChickpeaCauliflowerSalad · 21/03/2026 22:01

I'm so sorry about your DH, that must have been scary & devastating.

Some people are so incredibly self centered. I'm sorry you had to endure her!

Thank you so much for those kind words. I honestly wouldn't have dreamt of saying that to someone else. She also knew that both my parents were dead too, so it wasn't as if I hadn't known that grief either.

Charmatt · 21/03/2026 22:08

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:01

It is not the same, though, is it? You don’t know what someone in their 50s who has a bad relationship with a parent is going through if you’re told they’re going to die. So why would you say you do?

That's exactly what I'm saying - you're making it too simplistic because absolutely everyone's experience is different. How long you are with someone and how that relationship all had an impact on how difficult it is for you, both positively and negatively.

Ultimately everyone has a different experience and to think there is a simple hierarchy to grief is wrong.

Tryagain26 · 21/03/2026 22:07

I'm sorry but you can't quantify grief or predict how people will feel or how they should feel
I lost one parent when I was in my 20s and the other when I was in my 50s. The latter took me much longer to get over.
Every situation is different.
Every bereavement is terrible and knocks you for 6.

shouldicontactthisperson · 21/03/2026 22:07

Or you could take a leaf from Jefferson Fisher’s book and say “I see it differently” rather than have a direct confrontation. He also has some great advice about what not to say to someone who is grieving eg “I know how you feel…..”

OriginalSkang · 21/03/2026 22:06

I also don't think they're trying to downplay anything. They're saying that what they went through with their parent dying was awful, and you're downplaying their experiences

shouldicontactthisperson · 21/03/2026 22:04

I get what you mean, I think for the majority of people it would be harder to cope with the loss of a parent if you were early 20s and likely still finding your feet. I can’t imagine how I personally would have managed.

I think in these conversations however I would just internally think like this and say nothing. Some people come out with all sorts of rubbish when they can’t think of anything sensible to say. And obviously everyone copes differently. I’ve known a couple of people in their 50s and older who have never recovered from losing a parent.

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:04

SplodgeWaddler · 21/03/2026 22:03

I think it's a relative, there are so many different variables and it just depends on the circumstances. Surely a sudden death is worse? You don't get to say goodbye.

I wouldn’t want to.

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:04

ThePerfectWeekender · 21/03/2026 22:00

HRTFT but DF died when i was in my early twenties and DM when I was in my forties, both to cancer. The loss of DM felt far harder. You don't get to tell people how the feel or make generalisations when it comes to grieving.
Nothing in my life has ever come close to the loss of DB suddenly aged nineteen. I'd spoken to him an hour before. I went to a dark place for a long time. I don't think a 'quick' death makes it easier than a long drawn out one. We never got to say goodbye or give him anything he wanted before his death. It was horrific.

For the 100th time. I didn’t tell her how to feel. I said it was not the same.

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laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:03

Kirbert2 · 21/03/2026 22:00

When my son had cancer, I had a family member tell me they knew how I felt because their dog had cancer.

At least they hopefully won't say anything to your colleague.

It is so bizarre, isn’t it? I can’t help but think some people on the thread must be the same people who are making these strange and insensitive comparisons.

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SplodgeWaddler · 21/03/2026 22:03

I think it's a relative, there are so many different variables and it just depends on the circumstances. Surely a sudden death is worse? You don't get to say goodbye.

OriginalSkang · 21/03/2026 22:01

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:00

Because they like attention. Surely that’s why any attention attention seems.

What attention are they getting though? It doesn't make sense

You are getting more attention from this than anyone. Why does it matter to you this much that they are wrong?

laughloseya · 21/03/2026 22:01

Charmatt · 21/03/2026 21:58

I lost my Dad when I was 23, but that is a coarse barometer of whether 'it's terrible' or not.
My relationship with my Dad was great, so I had 23 years amazing years of love, care, and quality. I'm in my mid 50s now and some people I know are a similar age, but couldn't say they'd had anywhere near that long in a good relationship with their parents.

Which is worse? A good relationship for a shorter time or a poor relationship for longer? Some people will never experienced a relationship like I had with my Dad - that makes me lucky for having what I had.

It is not the same, though, is it? You don’t know what someone in their 50s who has a bad relationship with a parent is going through if you’re told they’re going to die. So why would you say you do?

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