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AIBU to object to a large co-living dwvelopment near my home?

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Mathsdebator · 21/03/2026 20:20

I live in the North East. The local paper published an article yesterday about someone applying to turn a shop near me into a "large co-living development' with 18 rooms and communal area. Aimed at young professionals apparently and they're denying it's a HMO.

It's obviously a HMO

There's no parking. The space is small. It's 3 minutes walk from a primary school. I've looked up the developers - they're based in London.

Would you object?

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BeachOrBeech · 22/03/2026 11:23

SuzyFandango · 22/03/2026 11:17

I think you are being slightly snobby op about what constitutes a "young professional". I've found the development you're talking about.

This is low cost housing, for young people with jobs, probably first rung on the ladder. They might be working in retail or care, or training on the job. Why shouldn't low cost housing be a choice? There's public transport close by. With low rents young people could also have a better chance to save.

Where do you think poorer people should live?

I’m going to guess you don’t think they should live in an HMO in your street?

Mathsdebator · 22/03/2026 11:21

SuzyFandango · 22/03/2026 11:17

I think you are being slightly snobby op about what constitutes a "young professional". I've found the development you're talking about.

This is low cost housing, for young people with jobs, probably first rung on the ladder. They might be working in retail or care, or training on the job. Why shouldn't low cost housing be a choice? There's public transport close by. With low rents young people could also have a better chance to save.

Where do you think poorer people should live?

That flat is posted would be 325 a month each for 2 sharing. A whole flat, on the marina!

This place isn't going to be cheaper surely? Whixh means they won't attract young professionals. They'll attract shit humans who treat the area in a shit way

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SuzyFandango · 22/03/2026 11:17

I think you are being slightly snobby op about what constitutes a "young professional". I've found the development you're talking about.

This is low cost housing, for young people with jobs, probably first rung on the ladder. They might be working in retail or care, or training on the job. Why shouldn't low cost housing be a choice? There's public transport close by. With low rents young people could also have a better chance to save.

Where do you think poorer people should live?

CSIGrissom · 22/03/2026 11:14

Everyone hates NIMBYs until it's their own BY....
I get what you are talkimg about OP. We had couple of HMOs popped up where we used to live years ago and luckily we rented so moved out when it went all wrong. There is a reason, actually quite a few, councils now limit the numbers in areas.

The young professionals co living sounds great, but you have no guarantee it will be that.

likelysuspect · 22/03/2026 11:07

crackofdoom · 22/03/2026 10:52

"Professional" just means anybody with a job in estate agent speak.

As to who....has the housing crisis for young people largely gone over your head?

Your objection seems a bit dog- in-the-mangerish to me, with the exception of the parking concern, which I 'd say is valid.

Is there a housing crisis in somewhere like Sunderland? Have you looked at the availability of properties, both rentals and to purchase?

Mathsdebator · 22/03/2026 11:03

SuzyFandango · 22/03/2026 10:57

Rents are high relative to wages in many places, presumably this is targeting young people with student debt etc

It might be perfectly reasonable to not include parking if there's good public transport. There are lots of car free developments in London, its an environmental thing and they usually come with a restriction on getting a local parking permit too so you can't clog up local roads parking there instead. Sunderland is a city isn't it?

We are a city (got in under the radar one year - my husband is a Geordie and reminds me of this 🤣)

This 2 bed flat is 10 minutes walk away. I really, really don't think young professionals would choose to live in a compact room when 2 could share this so cheaply

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/171558683#/?channel=STU_LET

Check out this 2 bedroom apartment for rent on Rightmove

2 bedroom apartment for rent in Low Street, Sunderland, SR1 for £650 pcm. Marketed by Hackett Property, Sunderland

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/171558683#/?channel=STU_LET

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BeachOrBeech · 22/03/2026 10:57

DeftGoldHedgehog · 22/03/2026 10:50

Sounds more like that people of the wrong colour might move in.

Nope, you are projecting there, so look at your own prejudices.

Out of interest have you ever been to Sunderland? If you think the worry about drug culture is down to skin colour you’d have a point but not the one you think you are making. Drug issues in Sunderland are statically far more prevalent in white british population. Are you so removed from reality that you assume it must be racism and not a genuine fear of the prevalent drug culture there?

SuzyFandango · 22/03/2026 10:57

Mathsdebator · 21/03/2026 20:43

I want to be open minded but what professional wants to live in a bedsit with shared communal area and no parking? I just can't see it.

Rents are high relative to wages in many places, presumably this is targeting young people with student debt etc

It might be perfectly reasonable to not include parking if there's good public transport. There are lots of car free developments in London, its an environmental thing and they usually come with a restriction on getting a local parking permit too so you can't clog up local roads parking there instead. Sunderland is a city isn't it?

Mathsdebator · 22/03/2026 10:55

DeftGoldHedgehog · 22/03/2026 10:50

Sounds more like that people of the wrong colour might move in.

Pile of shite. The ASBO kings round here are every colour of the rainbow.

The lad who took a machete to one of our students recently was white. The rapist I mentioned is black. The lad who ran the drug den that got raided last month had bright red hair and pale skin. The lad who robbed the post office was brown.

Nobody cares what colour someone is when they're being attacked

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crackofdoom · 22/03/2026 10:52

Mathsdebator · 21/03/2026 20:43

I want to be open minded but what professional wants to live in a bedsit with shared communal area and no parking? I just can't see it.

"Professional" just means anybody with a job in estate agent speak.

As to who....has the housing crisis for young people largely gone over your head?

Your objection seems a bit dog- in-the-mangerish to me, with the exception of the parking concern, which I 'd say is valid.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 22/03/2026 10:50

Fleur405 · 21/03/2026 20:45

What is it you object to exactly? That poor people might move in?

Sounds more like that people of the wrong colour might move in.

twentyeightfishinthepond · 22/03/2026 10:49

I’m laughing at the idea a “professional “ earns more than a plumber.

BeachOrBeech · 22/03/2026 10:47

People who are dismissing this saying their experience of this in Bristol, London etc has been amazing. People saying their experience is it will fill with teachers, nurses etc. You are deluded.

Attitudes like that are why areas like Sunderland feel ignored, and in my opinion why they voted Brexit/like Farage. You are just so distant to the reality. No. Teachers, nurses etc will not be living in these. Have you any idea what a 4 bed detached on a nice estate costs near Sunderland? They will live or rent in one of those.

And I’m not saying OP voted Brexit or likes Farage, just that when people ask why the NE voted for Brexit, why did they fall for the lies. Well, you are no better, you are lying to her. Promises it will be fine. Promises that they will be professionals and cause no bother. You are lying just as much as the Brexit and Farage lot.

I say this as a leftie, anti Brexit, Farage hating liberal from a leafy suburb of Newcastle.

dizzydizzydizzy · 22/03/2026 10:46

Mathsdebator · 22/03/2026 10:32

This type of place would be lovely. I just don't think it will be (based on what's gone on locally)

Rent is cheap up here. You can rent a house for less than 200 quid a week!

Maybe try to find out more about the landlord. if it’s a provate landlord, they likely will not be willing to just take anyone. In the end a private landlord, is going to want people who pay the rent and look after the property…. So they are not going to want drug dealers, people with criminal records or students. Hence the ‘professionals’ thing.

likelysuspect · 22/03/2026 10:42

Mathsdebator · 22/03/2026 10:32

This type of place would be lovely. I just don't think it will be (based on what's gone on locally)

Rent is cheap up here. You can rent a house for less than 200 quid a week!

Yes just looking at properties in Sunderland in general, obviously I dont know the area but first time buyers on NMW can easily afford a property.

Mathsdebator · 22/03/2026 10:32

dizzydizzydizzy · 22/03/2026 10:21

You seem to be assuming the worst for no particular reason. I live in a similar place. It’s lovely - clean and quiet. Most of the people who live here are nurses but we have many other young professionals- a teacher, a vet, a flight attendant. Some of us are on benefits (me included, I’m too ill to work). We also have quite a few older people, most of whom moved here after divorce. The landlord is very choosy about who moves here. Nobody is violent, loud or on drugs or criminal in any way.

This type of place would be lovely. I just don't think it will be (based on what's gone on locally)

Rent is cheap up here. You can rent a house for less than 200 quid a week!

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UniquePinkSwan · 22/03/2026 10:21

Can’t stand NIMBYs

dizzydizzydizzy · 22/03/2026 10:21

Mathsdebator · 21/03/2026 22:53

What if this is a large HMO filled with people who don't work, hanging round all day?

You seem to be assuming the worst for no particular reason. I live in a similar place. It’s lovely - clean and quiet. Most of the people who live here are nurses but we have many other young professionals- a teacher, a vet, a flight attendant. Some of us are on benefits (me included, I’m too ill to work). We also have quite a few older people, most of whom moved here after divorce. The landlord is very choosy about who moves here. Nobody is violent, loud or on drugs or criminal in any way.

Fifthtimelucky · 22/03/2026 10:10

Mathsdebator · 21/03/2026 20:43

I want to be open minded but what professional wants to live in a bedsit with shared communal area and no parking? I just can't see it.

Thousands of young people do this in London and no doubt other big cities too!

JulietteHasAGun · 22/03/2026 10:03

You’re right I would be worried if an 18 bed rough bed sit was opening on my street. A proper co living space wouldn’t bother me.

id certainly be talking to the council and seeing what sort of reassurance you can get. But yes I suspect probably none. Even if they say they’re going to market it at 1k a month nothing to stop them down the line saying they’re had to halve the price due to lack of interest

Mathsdebator · 22/03/2026 09:41

@Longtimelurkerfinallyposts would you genuinely not be worried if a building housing 18 people was popping up at the end of your street? When similar, smaller ones nearby have been a hot-spot of real trouble?

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Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 22/03/2026 09:32

lots of young people don't drive, and don't particularly want to. cities thrive when fewer people use cars to get around them, so surely a car-free development is a positive thing? less pollution, less noise, more space for people, fewer road traffic incidents...

many single people actually choose to live in shared housing of some kind, beause it means being part of a community, albeit one where you have your own private space (and, in this case, ensuites,so not sharing toilets/showers with others like in a house-share), with access to shared resources (which is better for the planet - we don't all need to have our own washing mahine, for example!)

they're not going to be eligible for housing in any of the existing social housing stock if it's all designed for families with children. (at least this also means they won't be taking up lots of valuable spaces at the local primary school you mention!)

you make a lot of assumptions about who might live here and all the problems you think this might cause, but at the end of the day, you have somewhere to live. and there are other people who don't. why shouldn't they live near you?!

Mathsdebator · 22/03/2026 09:24

TurtleGroove · 22/03/2026 09:09

Loads of young professionals don’t know people locallly to go into a house share with, can’t afford something better, don’t want to be tied into a shared lease with people. I think your suggestion it will be full of drugs and crime and pose a risk to local school
children is quite a leap.

Is it though? I could literally walk to a street where this exact thing happened in 10 minutes

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TurtleGroove · 22/03/2026 09:09

Mathsdebator · 21/03/2026 20:43

I want to be open minded but what professional wants to live in a bedsit with shared communal area and no parking? I just can't see it.

Loads of young professionals don’t know people locallly to go into a house share with, can’t afford something better, don’t want to be tied into a shared lease with people. I think your suggestion it will be full of drugs and crime and pose a risk to local school
children is quite a leap.

Mathsdebator · 22/03/2026 09:01

likelysuspect · 22/03/2026 08:59

Have they bought the chip shop as well, as I would imagine thats a hard sell, to try to rent places out next to a chip shop as the sort of fancy space they say they are proposing.

I don't think so. It's been there for forever. It's the only one in the immediate area. I'll do some digging on that.

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