Is receiving £30k pa on benefits “living in poverty”?!

There should not be a UBI. People should work to earn money, not be given it for free.

If there is a UBI then it should be the same as the pension is now.

Surely you appreciate that’s not doable. Putting the basic minimum figure up for unskilled workers to £50k will then mean a pretty substantial pay increase for the public sector - doctors, teachers etc. because you wouldn’t expect skilled workers to be on wages only slightly larger than those who are unskilled would you? And that would then impact the public purse, and in turn the tax payer.

6 SN kids? Good luck to him.

A ‘reasonable solution’ is not one that means they are supported by the state. It will be difficult to support a family this size for anybody, but if it means her DH being present and watching the family within his capabilities, then she has the capacity to go out to work.

You are clueless

My dc and partner rent a 1 bed flat for that….. Some parts of the country cost more to live in.

How would this be paid for?

Well if your rent is so high it makes things a struggle you may well be entitled to the HB element of UC.

It's fucking peanuts, especially when people need extra support. We should have universal basic income of £50k per year. No exception. All disability aids fully funded.

If you are foolish enough to believe that a typical claimant can receive anything approaching that figure, your annoyance is predictable.

i think your find you are if your a disabled person on UC with standard amount , LCRWA , housing element and enhanced pip however there are also people as you say rightly who earn good wages and still get a lot of UC …. And with the removal of the two children cap will go even higher

That’s what my DH said when he told me about the program on the radio.
Youngest child was 3 so they carried on procreating whilst on benefits.
Children would only drink milk apparently so they went through something like 14 pints a day!

What clown on benefits goes out of their way to have 3 children and take on a colossal £2k a month rent?

yes, I expect you are right.

I can’t actually understand how successive governments have allowed us to get into
a situation where employers are allowed to pay people with a couple of kids an amount that is not enough to live on. Wages and rent are totally out of step.

Yep, I know a lady who has one child with SEN, and she has had to pick him up from school at all sort of times due to meltdowns/overwhelm etc.
She WFH in a part time role, so she can be flexible about it. But a lot of jobs are not like that at all.
Now imagine that x6. Looking after that many kids is a fulltime job in itself, let alone them all having SN.

A severely disabled single person who is too unwell to work and rents in outer London would receive just over £30k (Max PIP £9,747 pa + Universal Credit with LCWRA £9,880 pa + a maximum of a £12k contribution to the rent).

A normal healthy single person would receive £4,801
Universal Credit and £12k rent.

disabled people get more because their cost of
living is much higher.

People aged under 25 get less.

Why do you earn so little? You either both earn under minimum wage or one of your is not contributing anything

What job is someone who has been out of work for many years going to get that supports 6 disabled children and another disabled adult?

I work and couldn't support that sort of household. I do think people shouldn't be in such a situation in the first place, but once they are, what is a reasonable solution?

No, the assertion the UK's welfare spending is "out of control" is utter nonsense.

Whether it's "fine and dandy" is a matter of personal opinion, but the UK's spend as a percentage of GDP is still lower than most similar European countries, and it's actual payments rank near the bottom in generosity.

I'm glad you found my comment "hilarious" though. Some people are easily amused it seems.

Not for a single person, yes if you multiple children and some members of your household have disabilities with increased costs.

Not all LL are just paying interest. I know a few who own their properties outright and have done for years. The rent they get just goes in their pockets, and the clincher is that some of them are not even living in the UK.
So a UC claimant is paying them rent from the government coffers, and it is not even staying here and boosting the economy.

Oh goody another benefit bashing thread.

Look, it is neither easy nor desirable to claim benefits despite what the Daily Mail might tell you. Nor does it afford one a life of luxury. Yes of course there are examples of people abusing it but they’re unlikely to out themselves on a radio or tv program FFS.

What are you hoping to get from this thread?

No offense but how is this possible? 2 people both working but earning only marginally more than one person on minimum wage, and what do you mean by comfortable?

Why does every thread on benefits end up bashing LL's. For the thousandth time almost all LL mortgages are interest only so no tax payers money is buying a LL a house. LL have to put down a minimum of 25 percent deposit to get an interest only mortgage.