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AIBU to expect my ex to stop disrupting calls with our son?

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GearC · 21/03/2026 00:09

My ex-wife shut down an online chess game I was playing tonight (Friday) with my son (14). He’s very keen on chess and had asked me to play. We’d been playing for about 10 minutes. She scolded him for being on his phone too much, and when he explained he was playing with me, she said, “He(I) can do it in his own time” and insisted he end the call. This isn’t an isolated incident—she has tended to show extreme controlling behaviour over the years. She regularly disrupts or curtails our calls, and a few years ago she completely stopped our once-a-fortnight video calls, saying they “invaded her privacy.” (I can say with 99% certainty it was actually payback for an unrelated argument a few days earlier)
For context, I have the kids (him and his 13-year-old sister) every second weekend and one evening midweek. My son is somewhat neurodiverse (undiagnosed) and has very few friends or social outlets. It’s really hard to see him spending so much time alone. These small interactions—like a game of chess—feel worthwhile. They give him a bit of connection and enjoyment, and for me they’re a way of trying to make up for the father-son time we’ve missed. Not being able to be there for him, especially given his situation, has been genuinely heartbreaking.
I want his mother once and for all to stop interfering in our relationship. I do nothing to interfere in her calls with the kids when I have them. They can talk as long as they want.

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beeautifullif3 · 22/03/2026 17:11

Oh god these bloody women on here 🤬 your ex is toxic and needs to back the fuck up and let the kids contact their dad whenever they want! So sick of these toxic women and they wonder why the kids grow up and go non contact

CamillaMcCauley · 22/03/2026 17:06

GearC · 22/03/2026 14:14

"People are either autistic or not autistic."

Right, because human brains definitely come in only two settings: “autistic” and “standard". No grey area. Medicine, psychology, decades of research—all overcomplicating what is clearly a simple on/off switch.

Neurodiversity involves a cluster of known traits, which exist on the overall human spectrum of personality. There’s a point at which neurodiversity is diagnosable as a recognizable challenge or difference from the norm. So yes, in that regard, you are diagnosed as either “on the spectrum” or not. The autism spectrum is a zone within the range of human functioning.

My nephew is neurodiverse (back in the day he’d have been said to have Asperger’s Syndrome, but now that is just diagnosed as part of the spectrum). It’s not a significant impairment but it’s almost immediately apparent to anyone who deals with him. He’s not “somewhat autistic”, he’s on the autism spectrum.

My daughter on the other hand has some characteristics that could indicate a neurodiversity (she’s very sensitive to noise, fabric textures etc) but there’s no additional cluster of traits that would give the casual observer pause or rise to a diagnosable level. She’s just a sensitive kid.

My mum, who worked with special needs kids her whole career, had my nephew’s mild autism pegged before he was five; she has never mentioned any thoughts about my daughter being neurodiverse. It’s definitely something that can be diagnosed by experts as there or not there. If you believe your son is being impaired by autism, you owe it to him to get a formal diagnosis.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/03/2026 17:02

Calling out third-person phrasing after quoting Dorothy L. Sayers rather makes the point

Oh, I don't think so.

bigboykitty · 22/03/2026 16:37

GearC · 22/03/2026 14:01

“Somewhat neurodiverse (undiagnosed)” is an informal way of saying:

  • “Neurodiverse”: The person's brain seems to work a bit differently from what’s considered typical (neurotypical). This can relate to things like ADHD, autism, dyslexia, etc.
  • “Somewhat”: I notice some traits or tendencies.
  • “Undiagnosed”: He hasn't been formally assessed or diagnosed by a professional.

What's so hard to understand about it?

(cue next sneering, bad faith response)

Thanks for confirming what most of us already knew about you.

GearC · 22/03/2026 15:18

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/03/2026 14:54

There's no need to write of yourself in the third person.

Where am I "playing victim"?

Edited

You're right. "Sanctimonious moraliser" would be better.
Calling out third-person phrasing after quoting Dorothy L. Sayers rather makes the point.

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/03/2026 14:54

GearC · 22/03/2026 14:49

Onceuponasunflower ·
What does "somewhat neurodiverse (undiagnosed)" mean?
TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne
Indeed. It means nothing at all.

You chose to take one of the most sensitive aspects of a person's life—his child's struggles—and turn it into a smart-ass, dismissive remark.
You followed it up with blatant insults and made unfounded assumptions about my divorce, despite the fact that I had not said a single disrespectful thing to you.
And then play victim.

There's no need to write of yourself in the third person.

Where am I "playing victim"?

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 22/03/2026 14:52

It's her time and I wouldn't want my child online at night, regardless of what they're doing.

GearC · 22/03/2026 14:49

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/03/2026 14:12

(cue next sneering, bad faith response)

You're the one who is writing sneering and bad faith responses @GearC

You are unwilling to accept that you could be wrong in any way.

This does give us a clue as to why your ex doesn't seem to be terribly keen on you.

To paraphrase Dorothy L. Sayers:

"he seemed to have had the word "compromise" left out of his make up".

Onceuponasunflower ·
What does "somewhat neurodiverse (undiagnosed)" mean?
TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne
Indeed. It means nothing at all.

You chose to take one of the most sensitive aspects of a person's life—his child's struggles—and turn it into a smart-ass, dismissive remark.
You followed it up with blatant insults and made unfounded assumptions about my divorce, despite the fact that I had not said a single disrespectful thing to you.
And then play victim.

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GearC · 22/03/2026 14:14

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/03/2026 14:07

People are either autistic or not autistic.

If your son is showing some traits of neurodiversity, he should undergo testing.

"People are either autistic or not autistic."

Right, because human brains definitely come in only two settings: “autistic” and “standard". No grey area. Medicine, psychology, decades of research—all overcomplicating what is clearly a simple on/off switch.

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/03/2026 14:12

(cue next sneering, bad faith response)

You're the one who is writing sneering and bad faith responses @GearC

You are unwilling to accept that you could be wrong in any way.

This does give us a clue as to why your ex doesn't seem to be terribly keen on you.

To paraphrase Dorothy L. Sayers:

"he seemed to have had the word "compromise" left out of his make up".

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/03/2026 14:07

GearC · 22/03/2026 14:01

“Somewhat neurodiverse (undiagnosed)” is an informal way of saying:

  • “Neurodiverse”: The person's brain seems to work a bit differently from what’s considered typical (neurotypical). This can relate to things like ADHD, autism, dyslexia, etc.
  • “Somewhat”: I notice some traits or tendencies.
  • “Undiagnosed”: He hasn't been formally assessed or diagnosed by a professional.

What's so hard to understand about it?

(cue next sneering, bad faith response)

People are either autistic or not autistic.

If your son is showing some traits of neurodiversity, he should undergo testing.

GearC · 22/03/2026 14:01

Onceuponasunflower · 22/03/2026 12:04

What does "somewhat neurodiverse (undiagnosed)" mean?

“Somewhat neurodiverse (undiagnosed)” is an informal way of saying:

  • “Neurodiverse”: The person's brain seems to work a bit differently from what’s considered typical (neurotypical). This can relate to things like ADHD, autism, dyslexia, etc.
  • “Somewhat”: I notice some traits or tendencies.
  • “Undiagnosed”: He hasn't been formally assessed or diagnosed by a professional.

What's so hard to understand about it?

(cue next sneering, bad faith response)

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superchick · 22/03/2026 13:59

I strongly encourage my kids to call and text their dad if they want to tell him some news or ask a question throughout the week. However theres no history of abuse or using the kids to get at each other. Only you will know if theres a back story that affects this. But assuming there isnt i think you and your kids should call and text each other whenever the need arises. Video calls are a little bit intrusive in the home so he should keep them to his bedroom probably.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 22/03/2026 13:39

Onceuponasunflower · 22/03/2026 12:04

What does "somewhat neurodiverse (undiagnosed)" mean?

Indeed. It means nothing at all.

Onceuponasunflower · 22/03/2026 12:04

What does "somewhat neurodiverse (undiagnosed)" mean?

everybodyscreeaamm · 22/03/2026 10:51

Lookingforwardlookingback · 21/03/2026 00:43

Phone calls or video calls that are hours long are intrusive. Yes, you’re calling your kid not her, but you are her ex. She doesn’t want your presence in her house, even if it is not in person. I can’t speak for your relationship but for some men, this would be a way of controlling/intimidating the ex and reminding them that even divorced they can’t be free of them.

If she is calling the kids during your custody time for hours then feel free to put a stop to that. Disclaimer: a ten min check in phone call for you both is perfectly fair

If you are genuinely worried about your children and wanting to spend more time with them, then move closer, get 50:50 custody and spend time in person. Don’t move away, barely see them and mistake quality father son time as being on a call playing online chess.

This

And it wasn't a 10 minute game. You were 10 minutes INTO your gaming with him online.

NormasArse · 22/03/2026 10:31

Could you apply to have some extra time with your son, but online (as you’re so far away)?

Chess is surely a good activity for him.

ForeverTheOptomist · 22/03/2026 10:27

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 21/03/2026 20:05

If he hadn't moved away in the first place he wouldn't need to move back.

He moved to a house that he already owned. I went through a house purchase simultaneously with a divorce. It's not pretty.

LittleBinChicken · 22/03/2026 10:06

If one parent is preventing their child from speaking to the other because they find it “intrusive”, this is not putting the child first. This is selfish in the extreme. You need to just grow up and get over it.

Stompythedinosaur · 22/03/2026 09:46

Phoenixfire1988 · 22/03/2026 08:25

If he's in his own bedroom what's the big deal why are you bending over backwards to try and justify her ridiculous behaviour !
This is about punishing the dad having control and screw the poor kid who just wants to play a game of online chess with his dad !

I think the op's unpleasant and aggressive manner on this thread probably gives us a clue as to why his ex doesn't want his presence in her house.

He wants her to fall in line with his wishes, and she doesn't owe him that.

I'd go so far as to question whether we're actually sure the ds wanted the call, because I wonder how easy he'd find it to say if he didn't, when the op clearly doesn't easily accept a "no". For all we know he's signalling for his dm to get him out of the situation.

Acg1991 · 22/03/2026 09:34

I haven't read all of the post because it was making me annoyed.
As a single parent to 2 ND children of similar ages to yours, I think it's great that you are trying to stay so involved!
My children's dad also moved away and works a lot, so only sees them for a few hours each week. Restricting the access he has to his own children because of choices he made regarding our relationship would only punish the children.
Regardless of what caused the breakdown of your relationship, your kids are old enough to make their own decision about how much contact they want with either parent. In terms of the chess, if they really had used up all of their screen time, I would have made an exception and allowed them to finish the game and say goodnight etc and encouraged them to arrange a more convenient time to play next time.

Phoenixfire1988 · 22/03/2026 08:25

Stompythedinosaur · 21/03/2026 20:50

Being honest, would you want someone who made you feel uncomfortable listening in to your home? What if it was a person who has form for criticising your parenting or telling others you don't love your children? Can you see why that's uncomfortable?

It's clear you have a negative view of your ex. She has a right to a private life. She clearly isn't stopping contact, just doesn't want it stretching on for longer periods.

You need to make the necessary changes to have more contact with your dc to play an active parenting role, not expect your ex to further bend her boundaries.

If he's in his own bedroom what's the big deal why are you bending over backwards to try and justify her ridiculous behaviour !
This is about punishing the dad having control and screw the poor kid who just wants to play a game of online chess with his dad !

Phoenixfire1988 · 22/03/2026 08:20

GearC · 21/03/2026 01:19

You're addressing a situation that doesn’t really reflect mine. If you have to introduce hypothetical scenarios to justify her reaction, that in itself might suggest how justified it actually was.
The interaction in question was a 10-minute game of chess that my son asked for. Most of our calls are brief—often just a few minutes—because that’s all he’s up for. So this isn’t about prolonged “presence” in her home or anything resembling control. It’s about very small, child-initiated moments of connection.
There’s no suggestion whatsoever of intimidation or control on my part, nor is there anything in what I wrote that would imply that.
Moving closer isn’t an immediate or straightforward option, for a variety of reasons. The question I raised was about a specific situation involving phone contact. Suggesting major changes to living arrangements or custody doesn’t address the immediate question.
I’m not suggesting that calls replace in-person time—they obviously don’t. But for a child who has limited social interaction, even a short, positive exchange like a game of chess can matter. That’s the context here.

Had you of been a woman the replies on this post would be very different and I'm pretty disgusted in some replies tbh .
He's 14 old enough to decide if he wants to talk to his dad he can do that in his bedroom that in no way impacts her or her privacy its purely a control move nothing more . If she won't allow phone calls etc then the same should go at your home she might then realise how bloody idiotic her behaviour is . The joy of older children is they can have contact with the other parent so you dont have to , personally I found it great once my kids were old enough to call their dad and arrange things themselves because it meant I didn't have to speak to him .
You are not in the wrong here .

OntheOtherFlipper · 22/03/2026 03:55

Lavender14 · 21/03/2026 23:30

Who's to say it's anything to do with punishing anyone. For all we know she'd asked him to tidy up and he hasn't done it, or she's noticed he's already been on a screen for at least an hour and feels that's long enough and wants him to get involved in something else the family are doing. Or maybe she wanted some quality time with her son in the evening before bed. We don't know how many other evenings op has phoned that week. We don't know what way the exes evening has gone.

Op has assumed shes deliberately intercepting the relationship between him and his son, but we (and op) don't actually know the full context of their day or their week. As the primary parent she does need to be able to make a judgement call on things like screens without being undermined. Which is why communication between op and the ex is the real issue here.

If op and his ex were able to have a remotely healthy co parenting relationship then he could have text her and asked about it and come to an agreement around this type of interaction. He could have gone to court to seek an agreement around such contact. But he's not done any of that, he's gone on here to vent about his ex. Instead of actually acting on the bits that are within his control. I think what's unreasonable is sitting back and complaining that you don't get on with your ex while expecting them to act like you do. If his ex has shown him clearly that she's not willing to work with him, then he needs to go to court to resolve that and gain more access to his children.

Its absolutely nothing about him being a man, I'd say the exact same to a woman in this scenario.

Because I was replying specifically to the comments criticising him for moving away…

Lavender14 · 21/03/2026 23:30

OntheOtherFlipper · 21/03/2026 21:23

But yet, why would that be a good reason to restrict the son from playing chess online with him? Is this about punishing the dad or doing what’s right for the son?

Who's to say it's anything to do with punishing anyone. For all we know she'd asked him to tidy up and he hasn't done it, or she's noticed he's already been on a screen for at least an hour and feels that's long enough and wants him to get involved in something else the family are doing. Or maybe she wanted some quality time with her son in the evening before bed. We don't know how many other evenings op has phoned that week. We don't know what way the exes evening has gone.

Op has assumed shes deliberately intercepting the relationship between him and his son, but we (and op) don't actually know the full context of their day or their week. As the primary parent she does need to be able to make a judgement call on things like screens without being undermined. Which is why communication between op and the ex is the real issue here.

If op and his ex were able to have a remotely healthy co parenting relationship then he could have text her and asked about it and come to an agreement around this type of interaction. He could have gone to court to seek an agreement around such contact. But he's not done any of that, he's gone on here to vent about his ex. Instead of actually acting on the bits that are within his control. I think what's unreasonable is sitting back and complaining that you don't get on with your ex while expecting them to act like you do. If his ex has shown him clearly that she's not willing to work with him, then he needs to go to court to resolve that and gain more access to his children.

Its absolutely nothing about him being a man, I'd say the exact same to a woman in this scenario.

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