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All men should be aware of this

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mildlysweaty · 20/03/2026 21:08

I went for a walk in the sunshine around the back of my child’s school before pickup today. Usually the odd dog walker passes by but it’s pretty remote/foresty. I do this walk often but never go fully into the woods bit alone - because I’m female.

I was walking towards the woods and a person with long hair was walking my way - wrongly assumed it was a woman but when I passed them I realised it was a man in his 30s. I’ve passed plenty of men before walking their dogs, generally they give a nod and carry on. I started to feel a bit uneasy so rather than continue in that direction, I stopped a little further then turned around and started walking back (same way bloke was going).

I was a few feet behind him when he looked back over his shoulder back at me, then he stopped (with his back to me) and started opening his backpack. I felt bad vibes, there was no one else around. I managed to speed walk past him and pretended to phone my husband and had my car key ready to use if needed but all was okay in the end, I then passed some women walking.

In all honesty it could’ve been totally benign but any decent man should know that this sort of behaviour is intimidating for a woman, who’s alone, especially with nobody else around.

To get to my point: ALL men should understand how women need to be programmed to be wary of them, and how they can help is by ensuring they aren’t doing anything that could feel intimidating. They don’t know what it’s like to be a woman, but any decent man should be aware and conscious of how their behaviour may impact. I have reminded my husband of this today. It took a while to shake the feeling from this afternoon.

if voting I guess YABU = men don’t need to know this
YANBU = yes they do need to know this, it’s a way they can help

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ExpectMore · 21/03/2026 08:17

@mildlysweatyhow do you think he felt when he sensed someone he had just walked past look back at him and then suddenly turn around and start walking back towards him?

his behaviour suggests he may have been suspicious of your abnormal behaviour and was stopping to test your reaction and thus identify if you were a threat to him or not.

getsomehelp · 21/03/2026 08:16

Trust your instincts.

However I regret that harmless men need to make preemptive moves so a female can feel safe on a walk.

RupertTheBlackCat · 21/03/2026 08:16

Cambridgedropout · 21/03/2026 07:59

Absolutely spot on.

This thread is unhinged.

Sadly it's nonsense to say that the thread is unhinged. These stats are based on reported crimes. Read the real stats and they tell a very different story.

Hallamule · 21/03/2026 08:14

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 07:57

Not this men. All men.
shes asking for all men to understand why women might be frightened of them in remote places and to be predictable, understanding and non threatening as a response.
not that controversial imho

So what do you think this particular man, the one whose behaviour motivated the OP to srart this thread, should have done differently?

IdentityCris · 21/03/2026 08:14

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 07:57

Not this men. All men.
shes asking for all men to understand why women might be frightened of them in remote places and to be predictable, understanding and non threatening as a response.
not that controversial imho

But this poor man was predictable and non-threatening. All he did was to walk past OP. It was OP who became unpredictable and threatening by turning round and following him.

RupertTheBlackCat · 21/03/2026 08:13

Charlize43 · 21/03/2026 07:45

Are you a nervous type, young in your 20s?

I'm a 59 year old woman and have never lived my life in fear and I damn well am not going to start now!

If you read the above paragraph that you wrote, this is totally based on your perception of the situation.

Mine would have been totally different. I may have gone up to him and started a conversation. I know I would have smiled and said 'Good Afternoon' just out of general politeness. He may have thought, 'OMG! I've now got this chatty old bag ruining my walk in the woods' or he may have welcomed the opportunity to talk to someone and we may have had an interesting conversation. Either way the last thing I would have thought is that this man is going to harm or kill me because statistically speaking I probably have greater odds at being killed by a car on the way to the shops, than by a stranger in the woods. Yes, it does happen but it is probably one in a million chance.

A life full of fear is such a wasted one. I grew up in the 70s and my generation of women were taught that we were just as good as men and to get on with it.

With respect (I'm 67), being an older woman in the vicinity of an unknown man is a very different experience from being a younger woman.

'Men are afraid women will laugh at them: women are afraid men will kill them.'

Whatafustercluck · 21/03/2026 08:12

LBFseBrom · 21/03/2026 08:06

It sounds like he was being sensitive by stopping and fiddling with his backpack while you overtook him and went on your way.

Yes, i wondered this.

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 08:12

Imdunfer · 21/03/2026 08:11

The behaviour wasn't the problem. Blaming him for his blameless behaviour was.

Edited

She’s not blaming him, she’s giving feedback.
Stopping and letting her pass made her feel more vulnerable as she had to be close to him and lose sight of him again, which scared her more.
If I was a man reading this, I’d be going ah ok, I won’t do that then. why is that so unreasonable?

Whatafustercluck · 21/03/2026 08:11

I voted yanbu because the broader question you ask is in relation to men understanding how their behaviour impacts the thoughts and feelings of a lone female who is more vulnerable than men really ever need to consider.

However, the specific instance you refer to wouldn't make me feel this way, so yabu to flag his behaviour as odd when it doesn't sound like it was. In fact, unless I'm massively misunderstanding something, your behaviour sounds more strange than his.

Imdunfer · 21/03/2026 08:11

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 08:04

I don’t think she was unreasonable and I don’t think he was either.
she had a primal instinct something wasn’t safe and went into prey brain mode. I don’t think she was wrong to honour that instinct. Changing direction makes sense as she can see where he is and what he’s doing. He stopped, showing he was aware of her. So I don’t think she was wrong to honour that instinct.
on the flip side, as many have said, he might have been trying to let her pass, trying to make her feel more at ease.
no one unreasonable or horrible in this situation, nobody was disrespectful or rude.

The behaviour wasn't the problem. Blaming him for his blameless behaviour was.

Mt563 · 21/03/2026 08:10

GarlicFound · 21/03/2026 04:04

apparently even existing near women is threatening

Oh, your poor masculine ego 😢💐💐😢

We are cautious about being near men in situations that could go pear-shaped. It's fairly tiresome to keep having to explain to Nice Guys ™ that women are prey to a sizeable proportion of men: enough that this knowledge warrants such caution. It's a bit like sheep (OK, talking sheep) patiently explaining, over and over, to assorted dog owners that their Fidos may well be fully sheep-trained little darlings, but the "No Dogs" sign is staying up and means what it says - because the sheep aren't gambling their lives on any potential predator being the well-behaved one.

And I bet you still don't get it.

Do you have kids? Do you never, ever warn them about actions or circumstances that might increase their risk of harm by predatory men? Really??

I'm a woman with kids. But i guess im just not weak and scared enough for you.

I am trying to teach my daughter to trust her gut but also that most people are good. It's a hard balance but I think it's worth it. I don't want her to be so fearful when she goes out or overly modifying her life because she's a woman.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 21/03/2026 08:06

mildlysweaty · 21/03/2026 07:38

Adding a diagram as a few don’t seem to understand why I didn’t keep going into the ether and assume I was right behind the guy

Nice diagram - but I think I must have an almost complete absence of spidey senses as a man (or other person) stopping and rummaging through his backpack wouldn’t have registered. I haven’t led a particularly charmed life but I don’t automatically assume that man rummaging in backpack = Ted Bundy or Mega Creep or Out to Do Me Harm.

I take your point though that men should be aware of how their behaviours may affect women (and sadly, young black men in particular tend to be only too aware of this - old racist tropes die hard 😔 ).

However, I don’t think a man rummaging in his backpack is a behaviour that needs to be abstained from

LBFseBrom · 21/03/2026 08:06

It sounds like he was being sensitive by stopping and fiddling with his backpack while you overtook him and went on your way.

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 08:04

Imdunfer · 21/03/2026 08:02

There's nothing controversial in that but she's asking it in the specific context of a situation where SHE caused the problems. That's downright unreasonable, men do not have eyes in the back of their heads.

I don’t think she was unreasonable and I don’t think he was either.
she had a primal instinct something wasn’t safe and went into prey brain mode. I don’t think she was wrong to honour that instinct. Changing direction makes sense as she can see where he is and what he’s doing. He stopped, showing he was aware of her. So I don’t think she was wrong to honour that instinct.
on the flip side, as many have said, he might have been trying to let her pass, trying to make her feel more at ease.
no one unreasonable or horrible in this situation, nobody was disrespectful or rude.

Cambridgedropout · 21/03/2026 08:04

mildlysweaty · 21/03/2026 07:38

Adding a diagram as a few don’t seem to understand why I didn’t keep going into the ether and assume I was right behind the guy

Yep, you’re still totally bonkers.

The poor guy.

saraclara · 21/03/2026 08:02

mildlysweaty · 20/03/2026 21:29

It’s good to know several women don’t feel the need to be wary of men acting oddly or (women/you) being out on their own, and I mean that genuinely. Maybe I’m all too aware of what can happen (a very high profile awful case happened around the corner from me when in my last city), but I’ve not had that sick feeling for a very long time which was compounded by the guy stopping,
looking back and waiting. Don’t need any more comments I can see where this is going. But thanks :)

Edited

But YOU were the one who behaved oddly! I'd be spooked if someone changed direction to walk behind me!

I genuinely don't understand why you think that he was doing anything wrong.

Th30G · 21/03/2026 08:02

Cambridgedropout · 21/03/2026 07:59

Absolutely spot on.

This thread is unhinged.

Isn’t it! Uttter madness.

Imdunfer · 21/03/2026 08:02

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 07:57

Not this men. All men.
shes asking for all men to understand why women might be frightened of them in remote places and to be predictable, understanding and non threatening as a response.
not that controversial imho

There's nothing controversial in that but she's asking it in the specific context of a situation where SHE caused the problems. That's downright unreasonable, men do not have eyes in the back of their heads.

Th30G · 21/03/2026 08:01

Winewolfhywls · 21/03/2026 08:00

Poor bloke is probably posting on local social media about weird woman following him in the woods. My DH has anxiety and would get very worried if someone turned around and followed him.

However, I have been walking late in town for the last bus and seen men walking that look under the influence or a bit sinister and I have legged it to be on the safe side. In the day to a fellow walker,I would have said hello. It's about the time of day and your own physical capability. You would be fine to leave the area as you feel threatened, it is not fine to follow people who have done nothing.

Exactly this! It’s not ok to follow and accuse somebody going about their business. Op does not have some god given priority re scenic routes either.

KimuraTan · 21/03/2026 08:01

I sympathise with feeling anxious in this situation, you must have been so worried and I’d say men should be aware if their behaviour could be seen as frightening for women. (Not sure if this applies to the bloke you met.)

However - you chose to come past this man twice!! Why would you give someone the chance to get to you from a close range - if they really meant harm. Secondly, you ventured into an area that you clearly feel anxious about and where there might not be immediate help available - why do that if you know there will be other strangers walking those trails?

No comment on whether or not the man did anything wrong as I can’t see how his behaviour was threatening but appreciate the OP was frightened.

Winewolfhywls · 21/03/2026 08:00

Poor bloke is probably posting on local social media about weird woman following him in the woods. My DH has anxiety and would get very worried if someone turned around and followed him.

However, I have been walking late in town for the last bus and seen men walking that look under the influence or a bit sinister and I have legged it to be on the safe side. In the day to a fellow walker,I would have said hello. It's about the time of day and your own physical capability. You would be fine to leave the area as you feel threatened, it is not fine to follow people who have done nothing.

Cambridgedropout · 21/03/2026 07:59

ThisLimeLeader · 21/03/2026 07:16

Honestly, I do not understand how women have managed to be so brainwashed by social media and each other that they're convinced they're in mortal danger of being abducted or worse every time they leave the house. Reality check: men are around 3x more likely to be murdered and 2x more likely to be attacked by a stranger as women. Only 0.0005% of women are murdered each year in the uk and the perpetrators are overwhelmingly their partners or someone they know with only 6% of the 0.0005% murdered by a stranger. While it does happen it's hard to overstate how rare it is and you are genuinely far more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a stranger. Add to this that you were in broad daylight on a road where other people were passing and you are being very unreasonable.

Absolutely spot on.

This thread is unhinged.

CatchingLeaves · 21/03/2026 07:59

Other than not being there I dont see what he could have done differently?
Considering you kept going the other way and he hadnt turned to also go that way it doesnt sound like there was anything suspicious.
Maybe he noticed you seemed anxious and let you pass to help with that.

Sartre · 21/03/2026 07:58

InconvenientlyMaterial · 21/03/2026 07:53

I cannot believe the misogynist responses you're getting here OP. Describing the fear of male violence as "frothing". (There's been a massive uptick in really regressive, divisive misogynist posting on MN, especially at night. Probably a wank game for some. Maybe a political thing for others).

Or the frankly racist implication that being wary of the sex which commits well over 90% of all violent and sex crimes is like having a bias against black people. What the actual fuck?

Many women (1 in 4?) are wary of men because they've already experienced male sexual violence. Trauma reactions happen outside of conscious awareness. And regardless of life history, it is hardwired into women to check their surroundings as they go about the world. This has been scientifically demonstrated.

The vast majority of these rapes, sexual assaults and harassments aren't reported, even less secure convictions. It's hardly surprising that women don't trust the police and don't want to go through a re traumatising court experience.

So yes I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask men to consider their impact on women as they move around the world. How is it any different to other ways in which we treat the people we live amongst with tolerance and respect?

There’s nothing misogynistic about it. They crossed paths, OP got a weird feeling about him for no real reason so she turned to start following him which might have made him feel a bit freaked out tbh. I think I would if I crossed paths with someone then a few minutes later realised they’d turned around to follow me? His crime was stopping to get something out of his bag… we know nothing about the man, he might have been attacked in the past.

GarlicFound · 21/03/2026 07:57

Th30G · 21/03/2026 07:25

That book sounds racist.

I hope your livelihood doesn't depend on reading comprehension.