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All men should be aware of this

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mildlysweaty · 20/03/2026 21:08

I went for a walk in the sunshine around the back of my child’s school before pickup today. Usually the odd dog walker passes by but it’s pretty remote/foresty. I do this walk often but never go fully into the woods bit alone - because I’m female.

I was walking towards the woods and a person with long hair was walking my way - wrongly assumed it was a woman but when I passed them I realised it was a man in his 30s. I’ve passed plenty of men before walking their dogs, generally they give a nod and carry on. I started to feel a bit uneasy so rather than continue in that direction, I stopped a little further then turned around and started walking back (same way bloke was going).

I was a few feet behind him when he looked back over his shoulder back at me, then he stopped (with his back to me) and started opening his backpack. I felt bad vibes, there was no one else around. I managed to speed walk past him and pretended to phone my husband and had my car key ready to use if needed but all was okay in the end, I then passed some women walking.

In all honesty it could’ve been totally benign but any decent man should know that this sort of behaviour is intimidating for a woman, who’s alone, especially with nobody else around.

To get to my point: ALL men should understand how women need to be programmed to be wary of them, and how they can help is by ensuring they aren’t doing anything that could feel intimidating. They don’t know what it’s like to be a woman, but any decent man should be aware and conscious of how their behaviour may impact. I have reminded my husband of this today. It took a while to shake the feeling from this afternoon.

if voting I guess YABU = men don’t need to know this
YANBU = yes they do need to know this, it’s a way they can help

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IWaffleAlot · 21/03/2026 09:19

mildlysweaty · 20/03/2026 21:46

the main point (which I don’t think I’m getting across) is that men often don’t realise the impact of ordinary behaviours in certain contexts. Like stopping suddenly in an isolated space and creating a situation where a woman may feel trapped. I’m not saying he was out to kill me.

And maybe he doesn’t even give it two seconds thought because he should need to justify his behaviour for just existing. I won’t be telling my dh to modify his running behaviour.

Laserwho · 21/03/2026 09:19

5128gap · 21/03/2026 09:13

Are you a man? Because if so, I'd be interested in what about the encounter with the OP would have made you 'feel fear'? That she would sexually assault you? Violently over power and hurt you? Because I can understand your fear if another man had turned and followed you as men statistically hurt a lot of other men. But I'm very surprised you'd feel anything other than a bit awkward as the man in the situation described. What would you fear the wonan would do to you, and what is the basis for your fear?

No I'm not a man, In a mother of boys, well older teens/ young adult men. If one of them was walking alone and a woman suddenly changed direction and was walking at speed towards them it would cause fear. They would naturally look around and stop so they woman could pass. Being a man doesn't stop you from feeling fear especially if you think someone is following you.

OrdinaryMagicOfAcorns · 21/03/2026 09:17

Th30G · 21/03/2026 09:05

Male violence is committed by a very small percentage of men so let’s keep this in perspective shall we.

How much of a minority and how much of a majority engage in sexism and control politicking (small p)? You are minimising and dismissing the hierarchies that push all women down everywhere.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 21/03/2026 09:17

mildlysweaty · 20/03/2026 21:29

It’s good to know several women don’t feel the need to be wary of men acting oddly or (women/you) being out on their own, and I mean that genuinely. Maybe I’m all too aware of what can happen (a very high profile awful case happened around the corner from me when in my last city), but I’ve not had that sick feeling for a very long time which was compounded by the guy stopping,
looking back and waiting. Don’t need any more comments I can see where this is going. But thanks :)

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"Several women"? If you are reading the replies properly, @mildlysweaty, you surely have seen that it's the majority answering on here?

"Men acting oddly"? I agree, there would be a need to be wary in that case but this man didn't act oddly at all. He was a man (god help him) walking towards you, who passed you, paying you no heed, who later turned round to see if he needed to move aside to let the person he could see/hear/feel behind him pass, then stopped because he wanted to let the very odd woman who had suddenly decided to turn round and follow him, get past and out of his space. While stopped he thought he might as well have a sip of water/fag/stick of chewing gum/breather.

"Don't need anymore comments because I can see where this is going." You can't (and shouldn't try to) dictate when discussion stops any more than you can (or should want to) dictate the micro movements of a perfect stranger.

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 09:15

5128gap · 21/03/2026 09:13

Are you a man? Because if so, I'd be interested in what about the encounter with the OP would have made you 'feel fear'? That she would sexually assault you? Violently over power and hurt you? Because I can understand your fear if another man had turned and followed you as men statistically hurt a lot of other men. But I'm very surprised you'd feel anything other than a bit awkward as the man in the situation described. What would you fear the wonan would do to you, and what is the basis for your fear?

This omg. What was that man likely to be frightened of? What was she gonna do to him?
good lord. And they’re calling us snowflakes

5128gap · 21/03/2026 09:13

Laserwho · 21/03/2026 08:56

Think about this from his perspective. A woman passes him, then that woman suddenly changes direction and follows him picking up speed. He was going to look round, it's a natural reaction if you think someone is following you, this applies to men as well as woman. It made him uncomfortable which is why he stopped so you could pass. You made HIM feel uncomfortable, why is that ok? Men feel fear to

Are you a man? Because if so, I'd be interested in what about the encounter with the OP would have made you 'feel fear'? That she would sexually assault you? Violently over power and hurt you? Because I can understand your fear if another man had turned and followed you as men statistically hurt a lot of other men. But I'm very surprised you'd feel anything other than a bit awkward as the man in the situation described. What would you fear the wonan would do to you, and what is the basis for your fear?

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 09:13

MoFadaCromulent · 21/03/2026 09:11

I'm not angry at the OP for feeling scared, I'm baffled by what she expects this man to be aware of and vilifying him for what appears to be reasonable behavior.

The premise of the thread is
"any decent man should know that this sort of behaviour is intimidating for a woman, who’s alone, especially with nobody else around."

And the part that has most scratching their head is what sort of behaviour is the talking about?
And what would have been the alternative appropriate behavior?

It’s a shame it baffles you that she expects men to understand why women are anxious around them in remote places.
and I’m sorry she can’t give you a better alternative. Maybe you should think about it and do the work for once instead of putting it on the woman.

cocoromo · 21/03/2026 09:13

In general I agree with the principle that men should obviously not be intimidating to women - however this seems like a total non event and you made it into a big deal.

UniquePinkSwan · 21/03/2026 09:13

You were acting far more suspiciously than the man OP.

CoralOP · 21/03/2026 09:11

Charlize43 · 21/03/2026 09:06

^ This.

It's a sorry state of affairs. The OPs post and some of these responses are full of assumptions, accusations, bias, division, etc. Not dissimilar from some of the anti-semitic rhetoric of Germany in the 30s designed to promote divisions and hate. I'm not sure who or how it would benefit, as humanity we have to all learn to rub together, woman and men of all races and cultures. Much better to go through life without fear and with the general perception that people are good and kind, would help you, have empathy & compassion and that we are a social species, that know how to have a good time.

I'm 59 and just wasn't brought up with this mindset. It's almost like young women today are brain-washed into the Neo-Victorian mindset that they are the fairer sex and need special considerations... that weird phrase that was doing the rounds, 'I'm just a girl'... often used as a way of self-limiting themselves.

Agreed, I sometimes thing a 'manosphere' type programme needs to be made on some of the people on here. Purposely spreading hate, fear, discrimination and mistrust about men.
Can you imagine if there was a similar site for men(there probably is), lm sure Louis would have something to say about that!

MoFadaCromulent · 21/03/2026 09:11

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 09:02

That’s what I’m saying - I don’t think there was anything else this man could have done and we’ll never know because OP listened to her gut and changed directions. So we don’t know what he would have done and if her instinct was right.
I only know how he responded, which seems to be to let her pass and hang back, which seems like the only good response in this situation.
i agree it’s a shame we live in a world where people can’t just walk in the woods. But op isn’t the one who you should be angry at for that.

Edited

I'm not angry at the OP for feeling scared, I'm baffled by what she expects this man to be aware of and vilifying him for what appears to be reasonable behavior.

The premise of the thread is
"any decent man should know that this sort of behaviour is intimidating for a woman, who’s alone, especially with nobody else around."

And the part that has most scratching their head is what sort of behaviour is the talking about?
And what would have been the alternative appropriate behavior?

Hellohelga · 21/03/2026 09:11

He didn’t do anything wrong. He was on a walk and stopped to get sth from his rucksack. You followed him. You had the choice to stop and let him get further ahead, but instead you followed just a few feet behind. Sorry OP this Ines in you.

Holdmybeermoment · 21/03/2026 09:10

How do you get through a day with such ridiculous paranoia? You won’t go
walking in a wood because “men”? They’re really bit after you. That guy was just walking; you started following him. What a weirdo.

Mt563 · 21/03/2026 09:09

disturbia · 21/03/2026 09:06

Maybe he thought you were following him

So what, only women have magic feminine intuition and are poor delicate beings in need of protection. He had no reason to think she might be following for any nefarious reason or to fear her. /sarcasm

TheSunjustcameout · 21/03/2026 09:09

Laserwho · 21/03/2026 08:56

Think about this from his perspective. A woman passes him, then that woman suddenly changes direction and follows him picking up speed. He was going to look round, it's a natural reaction if you think someone is following you, this applies to men as well as woman. It made him uncomfortable which is why he stopped so you could pass. You made HIM feel uncomfortable, why is that ok? Men feel fear to

Men feeling uncomfortable when women behave anxiously near them in a remote place is a consequence of many men attacking and raping women.
Don't blame women for making a man uncomfortable.
Do something to reduce the problem of male violence.

MoFadaCromulent · 21/03/2026 09:07

Shessweetbutapsycho · 21/03/2026 08:57

I find it absolutely hilarious that the same hoardes who absolutely lose their minds about trans people in women’s spaces etc (on the basis that these people are biologically men, and as we know, men pose an inherent threat to women…), are telling the OP she’s being ridiculous! Try turning all of the arguments on this thread (‘he was just going about his day,’ ‘am I missing anything, he didn’t actually do anything,’ ‘by and large, people are just trying to get on with their lives’) (etc, etc, etc!) and applying them to your argument about trans women. You can’t argue it both ways!

FWIW in relation to the OP original question- yes me should be aware that if they are in an isolated setting with a lone female present, they should take steps to try and increase her sense of safety.

Yeah but in this analogy it's a woman seeing a trans person in a bathroom that they have every right to me in, sneaking up behind them and then losing their mind about them being in their safe space

SomersetSausage · 21/03/2026 09:06

Notabarbie · 20/03/2026 21:58

People struggle to act normally when they're trying to look normal. Yes, men should cross to the other side of the road on a dark night and not walk up quietly behind a woman but I can't think how he was supposed to know that opening his back pack would be a problem. What if he was looking behind him to check he wasn't holding anyone up before taking a drink? Was he supposed to stride forward robotically for the rest of the walk lest someone imagine there was something more sinister in his backpack? I'm sure if that happened the next thing would be another person saying he was striding too stridently or something. Not to make light of the very real problem and fear at the heart of this but no, this is not the way forward.

I agree with this. I think it's important that men don't behave in ways that could be perceived as threatening towards women, such as walking close behind them at night. It's easy for ANYONE to predict that those actions might feel frightening.

However, I'm not sure it's fair to expect a man to reasonably infer that stopping and getting something out of a bag with a woman nearby could be threatening. Otherwise, men would have to go everywhere mentally checking through the most mundane actions "I want to check my watch/tie my shoelace etc, is anyone near me going to find that scary..."

Ultimately, I think OP got a creepy vibe/bad gut feeling about this man. That's valid, it does no harm to listen to your gut. But once you've got that gut feeling, you're more likely to interpret any action as suspicious. Plus, this recent incident in your area has got you on high alert.

When I was about 18, I was grabbed by two men waiting at the bottom of the stairs coming down from a station platform (not particularly late at night, small station where you'd often be the only person waiting for or getting off a train). They tried to drag me into the wooded area next to the steps, but because they were both so incredibly drunk, I managed to wriggle free and run. So it's not like I go through life not worrying about men acting weirdly. It's just that, from your description, I don't think most people would interpret this behaviour as inherently weird. Something about him creeped you out nevertheless, so you 100% were justified in being on guard and getting to safety. Better safe than sorry.

disturbia · 21/03/2026 09:06

Maybe he thought you were following him

Charlize43 · 21/03/2026 09:06

ThisLimeLeader · 21/03/2026 07:16

Honestly, I do not understand how women have managed to be so brainwashed by social media and each other that they're convinced they're in mortal danger of being abducted or worse every time they leave the house. Reality check: men are around 3x more likely to be murdered and 2x more likely to be attacked by a stranger as women. Only 0.0005% of women are murdered each year in the uk and the perpetrators are overwhelmingly their partners or someone they know with only 6% of the 0.0005% murdered by a stranger. While it does happen it's hard to overstate how rare it is and you are genuinely far more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a stranger. Add to this that you were in broad daylight on a road where other people were passing and you are being very unreasonable.

^ This.

It's a sorry state of affairs. The OPs post and some of these responses are full of assumptions, accusations, bias, division, etc. Not dissimilar from some of the anti-semitic rhetoric of Germany in the 30s designed to promote divisions and hate. I'm not sure who or how it would benefit, as humanity we have to all learn to rub together, woman and men of all races and cultures. Much better to go through life without fear and with the general perception that people are good and kind, would help you, have empathy & compassion and that we are a social species, that know how to have a good time.

I'm 59 and just wasn't brought up with this mindset. It's almost like young women today are brain-washed into the Neo-Victorian mindset that they are the fairer sex and need special considerations... that weird phrase that was doing the rounds, 'I'm just a girl'... often used as a way of self-limiting themselves.

IdentityCris · 21/03/2026 09:05

Shessweetbutapsycho · 21/03/2026 08:57

I find it absolutely hilarious that the same hoardes who absolutely lose their minds about trans people in women’s spaces etc (on the basis that these people are biologically men, and as we know, men pose an inherent threat to women…), are telling the OP she’s being ridiculous! Try turning all of the arguments on this thread (‘he was just going about his day,’ ‘am I missing anything, he didn’t actually do anything,’ ‘by and large, people are just trying to get on with their lives’) (etc, etc, etc!) and applying them to your argument about trans women. You can’t argue it both ways!

FWIW in relation to the OP original question- yes me should be aware that if they are in an isolated setting with a lone female present, they should take steps to try and increase her sense of safety.

It's fairly hilarious that you assume that it is only people who lose their minds about men being in women's spaces who are unsympathetic to OP. What is your evidence for that? I suspect that, if anything, it's the opposite - people who take a common-sense view that trans men are largely harmless types are equally the people who acknowledge that this man did nothing wrong either.

Th30G · 21/03/2026 09:05

OrdinaryMagicOfAcorns · 21/03/2026 09:03

Specific situation aside, what all men should be aware of is that they do ‘give women anxiety’ as the modern phrasing has it, and that is for very good reasons.

Male violence is endemic. Men are THE major social problem. The scale of violence and increasing sexism should not be minimised and dismissed with the endless excuses, nor should what men are pleased to call ‘misandry’ be compared to misogyny in any way shape or form. Misogyny and sexism is the result of irrationality and prejudice and the need to seek domination, power and control. What men and a few rich female helpers dismiss as misandry or namalt is the result of fact, learned experience, and the desire to protect both ourselves and our dependent children.

I am very concerned about the rise in men seeking to dominate, male violence, the rollback in women’s rights and also the death of democracy, which is closely linked.

Men need to start thinking about just what is in it for women to be anywhere near them, and women also need to reconsider this. Too many promises broken, every time, for the last thousand years. Too many times when women get written out of history, for the last thousand years.

Male violence is committed by a very small percentage of men so let’s keep this in perspective shall we.

OrdinaryMagicOfAcorns · 21/03/2026 09:03

Specific situation aside, what all men should be aware of is that they do ‘give women anxiety’ as the modern phrasing has it, and that is for very good reasons.

Male violence is endemic. Men are THE major social problem. The scale of violence and increasing sexism should not be minimised and dismissed with the endless excuses, nor should what men are pleased to call ‘misandry’ be compared to misogyny in any way shape or form. Misogyny and sexism is the result of irrationality and prejudice and the need to seek domination, power and control. What men and a few rich female helpers dismiss as misandry or namalt is the result of fact, learned experience, and the desire to protect both ourselves and our dependent children.

I am very concerned about the rise in men seeking to dominate, male violence, the rollback in women’s rights and also the death of democracy, which is closely linked.

Men need to start thinking about just what is in it for women to be anywhere near them, and women also need to reconsider this. Too many promises broken, every time, for the last thousand years. Too many times when women get written out of history, for the last thousand years.

Tacohill · 21/03/2026 09:02

I understand what you mean by men being aware of their behaviour and how women are constantly having to be on high alert.

But what did you expect this man to do?

You were the one who followed him, it’s not like he saw you and turned back on himself to go in your direction.

I can’t see that this man did anything wrong.

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 09:02

MoFadaCromulent · 21/03/2026 08:50

As a man I am absolutely none the wiser from this thread and posters supporting the OP as to what I am expected to do in the situation the man found himself in to alleviate the fear my presence could cause.

if I'm walking in the woods and a woman approaches me from behind, walking faster than me and I only become aware of her when she is a few feet from me.

I should speed up so she can't pass me even though all available evidence would say she is trying to pass me by?
If she does overtake me I should make sure that I get back ahead of her which would require walking very fast begins her?

Dark road at night, our running in the woods and approaching a woman from behind, under pass at night, all those are clear enough. middle of the day and woman choosing to walk quickly close behind me ? Not a clue what people who think he should have acted differently want other than not be there or has been suggested don't walk behind her (he wasn't) and maintain distance to make her feel safe (she unilaterally chose to close the distance which he was completely unaware of until she was within a few feet of him).

OP having her spidey sense and acting on it, no problem whatever makes her feel safe. Saying that the unread was somehow due to the man's lack of awareness or consideration to how women might fear men, baffled given all the decisions she made

That’s what I’m saying - I don’t think there was anything else this man could have done and we’ll never know because OP listened to her gut and changed directions. So we don’t know what he would have done and if her instinct was right.
I only know how he responded, which seems to be to let her pass and hang back, which seems like the only good response in this situation.
i agree it’s a shame we live in a world where people can’t just walk in the woods. But op isn’t the one who you should be angry at for that.

Th30G · 21/03/2026 09:01

Weeelokthen · 21/03/2026 08:56

No it is not fairly commonly known by men.
I asked the three men in my life and it wouldn't even enter their minds to cross the road. They would'nt get up close behind a woman but they certainly wouldn't cross the road.

Why should they!!!! I’m not teaching my sons to cross the road at every woman and I’m not teaching my daughters to expect it. That’s ridiculous.

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