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All men should be aware of this

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mildlysweaty · 20/03/2026 21:08

I went for a walk in the sunshine around the back of my child’s school before pickup today. Usually the odd dog walker passes by but it’s pretty remote/foresty. I do this walk often but never go fully into the woods bit alone - because I’m female.

I was walking towards the woods and a person with long hair was walking my way - wrongly assumed it was a woman but when I passed them I realised it was a man in his 30s. I’ve passed plenty of men before walking their dogs, generally they give a nod and carry on. I started to feel a bit uneasy so rather than continue in that direction, I stopped a little further then turned around and started walking back (same way bloke was going).

I was a few feet behind him when he looked back over his shoulder back at me, then he stopped (with his back to me) and started opening his backpack. I felt bad vibes, there was no one else around. I managed to speed walk past him and pretended to phone my husband and had my car key ready to use if needed but all was okay in the end, I then passed some women walking.

In all honesty it could’ve been totally benign but any decent man should know that this sort of behaviour is intimidating for a woman, who’s alone, especially with nobody else around.

To get to my point: ALL men should understand how women need to be programmed to be wary of them, and how they can help is by ensuring they aren’t doing anything that could feel intimidating. They don’t know what it’s like to be a woman, but any decent man should be aware and conscious of how their behaviour may impact. I have reminded my husband of this today. It took a while to shake the feeling from this afternoon.

if voting I guess YABU = men don’t need to know this
YANBU = yes they do need to know this, it’s a way they can help

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ainsleysanob · 21/03/2026 09:55

WalkingThroughTreacle · 21/03/2026 09:51

What a horrible thread. The number of people (presumably mainly women, but who knows) picking apart the OP to find fault in the detail or criticising her for daring to feel vulnerable is shocking.

Male violence against women, including sexually motivated violence, is a commonplace reality supported by hard statistical evidence. Women have good reason to feel threatened, especially in isolated situations. Men should be more aware and more empathetic. Not being predisposed to violence against women is not good enough. Being aware that just your presence is enough to cause fear, and doing your reasonable best to mitigate that is not a big ask.

Ok. Then tell us what exactly this man did wrong?

Laserwho · 21/03/2026 09:54

WalkingThroughTreacle · 21/03/2026 09:51

What a horrible thread. The number of people (presumably mainly women, but who knows) picking apart the OP to find fault in the detail or criticising her for daring to feel vulnerable is shocking.

Male violence against women, including sexually motivated violence, is a commonplace reality supported by hard statistical evidence. Women have good reason to feel threatened, especially in isolated situations. Men should be more aware and more empathetic. Not being predisposed to violence against women is not good enough. Being aware that just your presence is enough to cause fear, and doing your reasonable best to mitigate that is not a big ask.

But the guy did. He stopped and let the lady past. There really wasn't anything else he could have done part from disappear which is impossible

Ghostspritz · 21/03/2026 09:53

MoFadaCromulent · 21/03/2026 09:47

She wanted him to do what any decent man would have done!!!!!!

There will be no follow up questions on this point

Which is what? Sorry I’m obviously not getting it. And I haven’t read all the thread so may have missed it if you’ve already said. I have sons and various other male relatives, so what should I be advising they do in a situation like this?

Th30G · 21/03/2026 09:53

TheSunjustcameout · 21/03/2026 09:44

No-one is spreading hate or fear or discrimination and mistrust about men.

Men do that all by themselves when they rape and assault women which they do everyday of every week up and down the country.

1 in 8 girls in this country is raped before reaching her 18th birthday.

If you really cared about trust, you'd do something to reduce the prevalence of rape or to facilitate the processing of rape cases in the courts - such as campaigning for rape-specific courts so that rape victims don't have to wait years to get to court in the first place. You could also campaign for minimum sentences for rape and longer sentences for rape than are currently given to make women and children safer.

And having had a male child that was raped and been through the court system I can assure you that the issues with the system are not what you have listed and your suggestions will not fix it.

FlaggedParrot · 21/03/2026 09:51

In relation to the example in the OP you are absolutely overreacting. So much so I'd seek councelling to overcome this batshit reaction to absolutely nothing.

WalkingThroughTreacle · 21/03/2026 09:51

What a horrible thread. The number of people (presumably mainly women, but who knows) picking apart the OP to find fault in the detail or criticising her for daring to feel vulnerable is shocking.

Male violence against women, including sexually motivated violence, is a commonplace reality supported by hard statistical evidence. Women have good reason to feel threatened, especially in isolated situations. Men should be more aware and more empathetic. Not being predisposed to violence against women is not good enough. Being aware that just your presence is enough to cause fear, and doing your reasonable best to mitigate that is not a big ask.

Th30G · 21/03/2026 09:50

TheSunjustcameout · 21/03/2026 09:44

No-one is spreading hate or fear or discrimination and mistrust about men.

Men do that all by themselves when they rape and assault women which they do everyday of every week up and down the country.

1 in 8 girls in this country is raped before reaching her 18th birthday.

If you really cared about trust, you'd do something to reduce the prevalence of rape or to facilitate the processing of rape cases in the courts - such as campaigning for rape-specific courts so that rape victims don't have to wait years to get to court in the first place. You could also campaign for minimum sentences for rape and longer sentences for rape than are currently given to make women and children safer.

Those stats are from Unicef and global figures NOT the uk.

Laserwho · 21/03/2026 09:48

TheSunjustcameout · 21/03/2026 09:44

No-one is spreading hate or fear or discrimination and mistrust about men.

Men do that all by themselves when they rape and assault women which they do everyday of every week up and down the country.

1 in 8 girls in this country is raped before reaching her 18th birthday.

If you really cared about trust, you'd do something to reduce the prevalence of rape or to facilitate the processing of rape cases in the courts - such as campaigning for rape-specific courts so that rape victims don't have to wait years to get to court in the first place. You could also campaign for minimum sentences for rape and longer sentences for rape than are currently given to make women and children safer.

Some men. Fixed it for you.

Weegielassie · 21/03/2026 09:47

Laserwho · 21/03/2026 09:44

This. I teach my son's to be respectfull of women, but they also need to respectful if him. I teach them to not go out of there way if a women is approaching, they don't need to cross roads etc. my kids walk alongside busy roads, why should they put themselves at risk by crossing them? As long as they arnt doing anything wrong they why should they? No man has ever crossed to road to avoid passing me and nothing has ever happened, we normally say a polite hello. That's what I've taught my boys

Edited

Exactly how I’ve taught mine too.

MoFadaCromulent · 21/03/2026 09:47

Ghostspritz · 21/03/2026 09:40

My question to OP is that did you expect him to do given the choices you chose to make? He wasn’t following you, he didn’t change direction, you did. He didn’t know who was coming up behind him until he stopped to look, or what their intentions were, he took an action that I would choose if I was him.

She wanted him to do what any decent man would have done!!!!!!

There will be no follow up questions on this point

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 09:47

gannett · 21/03/2026 09:41

This really is the most likely scenario.

People zone out all the time when they're out walking. It's part of the point. They're not thinking or even noticing other walkers - they're thinking about nature, or mulling over their worries, or philosophising in their heads. As long as you're not physically inconveniencing others around you, it's perfectly OK to do this. Even if you're a man.

This is a nothingburger of a situation. This isn't the same as a man behind a woman at night crossing the road to make her feel safer, which most men know to do in 2026. (Even then they don't have to do it in every situation - if a man needs to stay on one side of the road because he's turning a corner on that side or if he lives on that side, that's OK.)

But in this case there's nothing this man could or should have done differently. If you walk in the woods you have to accept that there may be men with long hair who stop to take things out of their rucksacks. That's acceptable behaviour and they don't need to avoid doing it. They don't actually need to have other people's anxiety at the forefront of their minds at all times.

Do you understand how priveleged it is to be able to do this without fear or wariness?
that’s the point of this thread. Jesus Christ

tripleginandtonic · 21/03/2026 09:46

In broad daylight that is normal behaviour surely? I think its more on you feeling on edge, that wouldn't particularly have bothered me as an older woman.

TheSunjustcameout · 21/03/2026 09:44

CoralOP · 21/03/2026 09:11

Agreed, I sometimes thing a 'manosphere' type programme needs to be made on some of the people on here. Purposely spreading hate, fear, discrimination and mistrust about men.
Can you imagine if there was a similar site for men(there probably is), lm sure Louis would have something to say about that!

No-one is spreading hate or fear or discrimination and mistrust about men.

Men do that all by themselves when they rape and assault women which they do everyday of every week up and down the country.

1 in 8 girls in this country is raped before reaching her 18th birthday.

If you really cared about trust, you'd do something to reduce the prevalence of rape or to facilitate the processing of rape cases in the courts - such as campaigning for rape-specific courts so that rape victims don't have to wait years to get to court in the first place. You could also campaign for minimum sentences for rape and longer sentences for rape than are currently given to make women and children safer.

Laserwho · 21/03/2026 09:44

PollyBell · 21/03/2026 09:36

So parents have to treat their sons like the enemy and have a long list of rules that sons have to be taught about how to treat women like victims and delicate little flowers

So what are the rules for women or are they all saints they dont need any?

Edited

This. I teach my son's to be respectfull of women, but they also need to respectful if him. I teach them to not go out of there way if a women is approaching, they don't need to cross roads etc. my kids walk alongside busy roads, why should they put themselves at risk by crossing them? As long as they arnt doing anything wrong they why should they? No man has ever crossed to road to avoid passing me and nothing has ever happened, we normally say a polite hello. That's what I've taught my boys

Gamerlady · 21/03/2026 09:44

You clearly have an issue with men to tar them with the same brush. This guy did nothing wrong and you're uncomfortable. You need to stay indoors.

gannett · 21/03/2026 09:41

IdentityCris · 21/03/2026 09:01

The likely scenario here is that the man barely noticed OP when she passed him the first time because he was thinking about something completely different. He walked on, and decided he needed something from his backpack - it could have been a map, a snack, his phone, it could even be that he felt something like asthma coming on and needed an inhaler urgently. So he stopped to get it out, then carried on his way again, having barely noticed OP walking past him again.

It's only OP who's made up some scenario where he was somehow at fault for the crime of having long hair, being in her vicinity, and carrying on with his walk without acknowledging her existence. We don't need to encourage other people to feel afraid in this totally harmless set of circumstances.

This really is the most likely scenario.

People zone out all the time when they're out walking. It's part of the point. They're not thinking or even noticing other walkers - they're thinking about nature, or mulling over their worries, or philosophising in their heads. As long as you're not physically inconveniencing others around you, it's perfectly OK to do this. Even if you're a man.

This is a nothingburger of a situation. This isn't the same as a man behind a woman at night crossing the road to make her feel safer, which most men know to do in 2026. (Even then they don't have to do it in every situation - if a man needs to stay on one side of the road because he's turning a corner on that side or if he lives on that side, that's OK.)

But in this case there's nothing this man could or should have done differently. If you walk in the woods you have to accept that there may be men with long hair who stop to take things out of their rucksacks. That's acceptable behaviour and they don't need to avoid doing it. They don't actually need to have other people's anxiety at the forefront of their minds at all times.

ChoosingMyOwnRandomUsername · 21/03/2026 09:41

This is mental.

You turned around and followed him - and quite closely too because you said you were a few feet behind him.

So this bloke is walking along minding his business, he glances over his shoulder and discovers the woman he just passed has almost instantly turned to follow him and is now bearing down on him, only a few feet behind.

He stops to let the speed walking woman pass...and he's the problem here? 😂

Balloonhearts · 21/03/2026 09:41

He literally did nothing. He stopped to get something he needed out of his backpack. You're the weirdo who turned around and started following him. He probably felt uncomfortable being followed and wanted to let you pass him.

If someone is behaving oddly and turns to follow you, it's safer to have them in front of you than behind you.

Ghostspritz · 21/03/2026 09:40

My question to OP is that did you expect him to do given the choices you chose to make? He wasn’t following you, he didn’t change direction, you did. He didn’t know who was coming up behind him until he stopped to look, or what their intentions were, he took an action that I would choose if I was him.

5128gap · 21/03/2026 09:39

IWaffleAlot · 21/03/2026 09:28

Agree. I have one of each and won’t be raising them differently. Certainly won’t be teaching my ds to feel inferior.

If you raise your DS right, he won't see acknowledging the truth that some men pose a risk as a problem. He'll see it for himself in the behaviour he sees around him and from the news. He'll want to do his bit to help women feel comfortable and he won't feel 'inferior' when he does. He'll likely feel better about himself for doing what he can. I have two adult sons and this is my experience.

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 09:38

PollyBell · 21/03/2026 09:36

So parents have to treat their sons like the enemy and have a long list of rules that sons have to be taught about how to treat women like victims and delicate little flowers

So what are the rules for women or are they all saints they dont need any?

Edited

You think teaching your sons to see women as human beings with feelings and rights that are equally as valid as theirs is treating them like the enemy?

Aluna · 21/03/2026 09:38

lovescats3 · 21/03/2026 09:29

Your gut instinct told you this was a dangerous situation so you turned back towards the area where other people would be, you did the correct thing, always follow your instincts

I mean if you think someone is a predator, ideally don’t turn round and follow them.

Th30G · 21/03/2026 09:38

OrdinaryMagicOfAcorns · 21/03/2026 09:33

Bollox. Absolute bollox.

You may not like it but it’s true. The vast majority of violent and sexual crimes are committed by a small percentage of men and as regards crimes against women most are known to the victim.

CoralOP · 21/03/2026 09:37

OrdinaryMagicOfAcorns · 21/03/2026 09:32

You are minimising reality. The known daily reality of women everywhere.

The experience of women on the internet is also a known and documented reality. It appears this site has been hopelessly infiltrated now.

Are you a man?

Ah the good old 'are you a man' argument because its too shocking to think a woman can disagree with you, good one

PollyBell · 21/03/2026 09:36

So parents have to treat their sons like the enemy and have a long list of rules that sons have to be taught about how to treat women like victims and delicate little flowers

So what are the rules for women or are they all saints they dont need any?