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All men should be aware of this

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mildlysweaty · 20/03/2026 21:08

I went for a walk in the sunshine around the back of my child’s school before pickup today. Usually the odd dog walker passes by but it’s pretty remote/foresty. I do this walk often but never go fully into the woods bit alone - because I’m female.

I was walking towards the woods and a person with long hair was walking my way - wrongly assumed it was a woman but when I passed them I realised it was a man in his 30s. I’ve passed plenty of men before walking their dogs, generally they give a nod and carry on. I started to feel a bit uneasy so rather than continue in that direction, I stopped a little further then turned around and started walking back (same way bloke was going).

I was a few feet behind him when he looked back over his shoulder back at me, then he stopped (with his back to me) and started opening his backpack. I felt bad vibes, there was no one else around. I managed to speed walk past him and pretended to phone my husband and had my car key ready to use if needed but all was okay in the end, I then passed some women walking.

In all honesty it could’ve been totally benign but any decent man should know that this sort of behaviour is intimidating for a woman, who’s alone, especially with nobody else around.

To get to my point: ALL men should understand how women need to be programmed to be wary of them, and how they can help is by ensuring they aren’t doing anything that could feel intimidating. They don’t know what it’s like to be a woman, but any decent man should be aware and conscious of how their behaviour may impact. I have reminded my husband of this today. It took a while to shake the feeling from this afternoon.

if voting I guess YABU = men don’t need to know this
YANBU = yes they do need to know this, it’s a way they can help

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MabelAnderson · 21/03/2026 10:13

mildlysweaty · 20/03/2026 21:35

Yes I think you’re right. I got the spidey senses as soon as I passed him, which is why I felt I needed to get back to civilisation asap, but I did keep going in my original direction for a bit so as not to be super close. It then was amplified when he looked back and stopped, it is hard to describe, it just felt very off and there was no one else within eyesight.

Op have you read The Gift of Fear ? Sometimes people take in information too quickly to process, but nevertheless notice very small things that make you feel uneasy. I once had this exact sort of feeling about a man, it was a sunny day, broad daylight, I was walking along a road in a city and there was a quiet section with few cars. The man was on a bike. I was about 18. There was nothing I could put my finger on, he just made me feel very anxious and he then dismounted and flashed at me. I have been flashed at four times, and each time I had this feeling about the man, before it happened. I think it’s something about their energy, the anticipation.
Listen to gut feelings, is the message of the book.

Luckyingame · 21/03/2026 10:12

Whataninterestinglookingpotato · 20/03/2026 21:13

Are you generally a very anxious person OP? Is this a very isolated place? I’m guessing not if you quickly ran into two more women. Was the man paying you any attention or just going about his business?

maybe I’m blasé but I rarely feel like this. For the most part people are just going about their lives and it’s pretty unlikely anything would happen in broad day light on a well used path.

You are right, people are mostly going about their lives.
Until they're not, as my husband says.
Being alert doesn't necessarily mean high anxiety, there might be a bad experience in the past etc.

gannett · 21/03/2026 10:12

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 10:08

Im not sure she did that… she expressed frutrstion at men not understanding why they can be so intimidating to women in certain situations and asked if it was reasonable.

but please correct me if im wrong

No, she clearly said that this specific man should have understood that his behaviour was intimidating. Even though there was no aspect of his behaviour that he should have reasonably altered.

If he had been walking behind her and keeping pace; or if he had walked too close to her; or if he had passed her, then turned to follow her, then yes, absolutely he should have understood how that behaviour would be intimidating, and not done it. Stopping to get something out of his rucksack though? The onus isn't on him to do anything differently.

MoFadaCromulent · 21/03/2026 10:11

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 10:08

Im not sure she did that… she expressed frutrstion at men not understanding why they can be so intimidating to women in certain situations and asked if it was reasonable.

but please correct me if im wrong

Her own words

"any decent man should know that this sort of behaviour is intimidating for a woman, who’s alone, especially with nobody else around."

Dogpootwo · 21/03/2026 10:10

mildlysweaty · 20/03/2026 21:21

I was several feet behind, he wouldn’t have heard me. He looked back and then stopped almost straight away and no he didn’t reach for the water bottle which was in the side pocket of his bag. It was odd, and felt dodgy. In my OP I said I often do this walk (3 years now) and never felt like that or had someone just stop in their tracks - the men (and women) usually carry on in their direction. Yes I turned around because I was walking in the direction of the woods and wanted to get closer to the village again - I didn’t think he would stop, and I was several feet behind him.

But do you see that you’re describing turning and following him, walking closely behind him but he couldn’t have heard you. But you expect him to be hyper aware of your feelings when you seem totally unaware of his. I would guess he stopped and looked in his backpack as a way of giving you space. I can’t see that he did anything wrong at all.

hippomail · 21/03/2026 10:09

Always trust your gut. You did the right thing. Have you read the Gift of Fear? It goes deeper into how trusting your gut can keep you safe.

And yes, both DP and I talk to DS about being mindful of how he/men could appear intimidating to girls and women, and what he himself, whether on his own or with his friends, should do to minimise that.

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 10:08

MoFadaCromulent · 21/03/2026 10:07

But you'd agree the OP was wrong for criticizing his specific behavior and labeling him as not being a decent man on the basis of this interaction?

Im not sure she did that… she expressed frutrstion at men not understanding why they can be so intimidating to women in certain situations and asked if it was reasonable.

but please correct me if im wrong

Laserwho · 21/03/2026 10:08

WalkingThroughTreacle · 21/03/2026 10:05

The specifics of this particular incident are irrelevant. Maybe the OP didn't describe it very well. Maybe she did, fear isn't always rational in the moment. Her overall point stands though.

Her overall point didn't stand though. She wasnt at risk. She changed direction, she followed the man at speed. She made the man feel uncomfortable forcing him to glance back then stop so she could pass. She caused the whole situation.

MoFadaCromulent · 21/03/2026 10:07

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 10:00

we discussed that this man did nothing wrong but op wasn’t wrong in feeling vulnerable and that the problem was the male violence against women in general, not any specific person in the situation.

But you'd agree the OP was wrong for criticizing his specific behavior and labeling him as not being a decent man on the basis of this interaction?

Tinytimmy123 · 21/03/2026 10:07

This week I've watched another few installments of the trumpstein files and the 'manosphere' documentary. All those men getting away with abuse and deviancy ....the media dont need to hype up too much its happening in reality.

WalkingThroughTreacle · 21/03/2026 10:05

ainsleysanob · 21/03/2026 09:55

Ok. Then tell us what exactly this man did wrong?

The specifics of this particular incident are irrelevant. Maybe the OP didn't describe it very well. Maybe she did, fear isn't always rational in the moment. Her overall point stands though.

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 10:04

Th30G · 21/03/2026 10:04

Not what the OP said

Yes I know it’s what the people criticising her have said

Th30G · 21/03/2026 10:04

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 10:02

Some people think that women being nervous about being alone with men they don’t know in remote environments is harmful to men and their rights 🙄

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Not what the OP said

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 10:02

Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 21/03/2026 10:01

I am confused to understand what the issue is here and what men need to be aware of…

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Some people think that women being nervous about being alone with men they don’t know in remote environments is harmful to men and their rights 🙄

gannett · 21/03/2026 10:02

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 09:47

Do you understand how priveleged it is to be able to do this without fear or wariness?
that’s the point of this thread. Jesus Christ

Of course? It doesn't change the fact that he did nothing wrong and shouldn't have behaved differently. (If anything, stopping to let a woman walking at a faster pace pass you is the better option.)

SorcererGaheris · 21/03/2026 10:02

DeftWasp · 20/03/2026 21:36

Why would he just not say "good morning" "good evening" or some such with a smile and carry on, that's what I do, not only is it friendly, it also breaks any tension someone may have.

@DeftWasp

To be fair, not everyone wants or sees the need to speak to strangers who they're walking by.

I rarely acknowledge strangers if I'm walking past them. I don't know them.

Seems to be quite common to say hello to perfect strangers in some parts of the USA, which I used to be find quite odd when I was a kid - but I understand that that's the norm in some places.

Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 21/03/2026 10:01

I am confused to understand what the issue is here and what men need to be aware of…

PollyBell · 21/03/2026 10:01

Ghostspritz · 21/03/2026 09:58

But what should he have done at the time? What could he have done better?

Not been born is all I can think of

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 10:01

Th30G · 21/03/2026 10:00

So because the man stopped to look in his bag whilst being followed he’s not descent- okaaaay🤔

we discussed that this man did nothing wrong but op wasn’t wrong in feeling vulnerable and that the problem was the male violence against women in general, not any specific person in the situation.

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 10:00

Ghostspritz · 21/03/2026 09:58

But what should he have done at the time? What could he have done better?

we discussed that this man did nothing wrong but op wasn’t wrong in feeling vulnerable and that the problem was the male violence against women in general, not any specific person in the situation.

Th30G · 21/03/2026 10:00

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 09:56

Be a decent man in the first place so the amount of sexual and physical violence goes down and women have less reason to be frightened in the first place?
be empathetic to the fact that their mere presence is enough to make some women feel uncomfortable in situations like this
You’re not powerless

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So because the man stopped to look in his bag whilst being followed he’s not descent- okaaaay🤔

TheCurious0range · 21/03/2026 09:59

MoFadaCromulent · 20/03/2026 21:36

He was finding an excuse to let you pass so you wouldn't have an awkward walking in lockstep given you had just passed him and then about faced to walk in the same direction as him

This. You turned and followed him.

I agree at night in shady areas men need to be aware of the impact of their presence, but he was just walking, he passed you, didn't interact, you then turned and followed him, he then probably heard you and either stopped so you could pass, or because he felt awkward or uncomfortable that you had turned and followed him or maybe he just wanted something out of his bag. It's your behaviour that's odd in this scenario.

Ghostspritz · 21/03/2026 09:58

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 09:56

Be a decent man in the first place so the amount of sexual and physical violence goes down and women have less reason to be frightened in the first place?
be empathetic to the fact that their mere presence is enough to make some women feel uncomfortable in situations like this
You’re not powerless

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But what should he have done at the time? What could he have done better?

IWaffleAlot · 21/03/2026 09:57

PollyBell · 21/03/2026 09:36

So parents have to treat their sons like the enemy and have a long list of rules that sons have to be taught about how to treat women like victims and delicate little flowers

So what are the rules for women or are they all saints they dont need any?

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I think many on here despise their husbands and sons. The hate for men is so strong that they must be hypocrites to have such a reaction to men but go home and be decent to their family.

confusedbydating · 21/03/2026 09:56

Ghostspritz · 21/03/2026 09:53

Which is what? Sorry I’m obviously not getting it. And I haven’t read all the thread so may have missed it if you’ve already said. I have sons and various other male relatives, so what should I be advising they do in a situation like this?

Be a decent man in the first place so the amount of sexual and physical violence goes down and women have less reason to be frightened in the first place?
be empathetic to the fact that their mere presence is enough to make some women feel uncomfortable in situations like this
You’re not powerless

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