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To have distanced myself from my in-laws because of their casual sexism?

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Pinkzara · 20/03/2026 09:53

Amongst other things, I found my in laws very sexist.

For example. They’d do family gatherings which would be everyone goes to the pub, but then the women and children all walk back to
the house to prepare food while the men stay in the pub and get as drunk as possible. When I declined to go and prepare the food with all the women it was frowned upon.

Family dinners were always mil doing all of the cooking, then the women clearing up afterwards while the men all sit around chatting, drinking and falling asleep.

Mil gossiping about the state of other people’s houses and telling me the women of the house was dirty and a slattern, despite men living there too.

When dh and I were buying our first home and moving out of our rental. We were sorting out and doing tip runs and packing. Mil and Fil turned up unannounced to ‘help’, mil turned up with a bag of cleaning products and announced she’d come to help me to clean the property and that fil would take fb to the tip. Even though we’d not asked for any help or given any indication that I’d be cleaning alone.

On the very rare occasion we asked for a days childcare then saying it was for me to help me as I had to go to work, even though their son has a full time job too so presumably they are helping their son too.

Just a few examples and plenty more where that came from.

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LakieLady · 20/03/2026 14:51

YANBU, OP, not at all.

I've reduced contact with my ILs because of their racism and xenophobia. MIL is appalling, but my SIL and BIL are younger than me and just as bad.

Basquervill · 20/03/2026 14:42

Pinkzara · 20/03/2026 14:39

Hit a nerve?

Ouch! Yes, I’m absolutely reeling.

Pinkzara · 20/03/2026 14:40

EvelynBeatrice · 20/03/2026 14:33

But make sure that your kids understand that you don’t agree with their views and why you find them problematic. You don’t want them to be overly influenced by such views. So dangerous for little girls in particular to be taught that they come second and must accede to male wishes.

I’ve encountered some similar issues with racism. I chose not to sever all contact but to make sure my kids understood why I found it unacceptable and why I’d like to see them think differently/ do better.

It would be a better world for women if misogyny was treated as seriously as racism.

It’s interesting how people are so willing to tolerate misogyny and we are expected to smile and ignore it.

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Pinkzara · 20/03/2026 14:39

Basquervill · 20/03/2026 14:36

Good for you. I hope you are very happy.

Hit a nerve?

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FrenchandSaunders · 20/03/2026 14:38

If my dad was still alive he'd be 95 now ... he was a stay at home dad in the 1970s. My mum struggled a bit with motherhood, whilst he adored being a dad.

It's not age OP, it's just weird sexist beliefs.

Basquervill · 20/03/2026 14:36

Pinkzara · 20/03/2026 14:06

I don’t really care about their comfort to be honest. They haven’t cared about mine for all these years.

I said distance myself, not call them counts and never speak to them again.

Also I didn’t say anything about my dh or children not seeing them. My children are of an age where they’re old enough to see their grandparents themselves and dh can do what he likes.

Good for you. I hope you are very happy.

EvelynBeatrice · 20/03/2026 14:33

Pinkzara · 20/03/2026 14:06

I don’t really care about their comfort to be honest. They haven’t cared about mine for all these years.

I said distance myself, not call them counts and never speak to them again.

Also I didn’t say anything about my dh or children not seeing them. My children are of an age where they’re old enough to see their grandparents themselves and dh can do what he likes.

But make sure that your kids understand that you don’t agree with their views and why you find them problematic. You don’t want them to be overly influenced by such views. So dangerous for little girls in particular to be taught that they come second and must accede to male wishes.

I’ve encountered some similar issues with racism. I chose not to sever all contact but to make sure my kids understood why I found it unacceptable and why I’d like to see them think differently/ do better.

It would be a better world for women if misogyny was treated as seriously as racism.

DierdreDaphne · 20/03/2026 14:11

MrsPinkSky · 20/03/2026 10:35

Some people are incredibly old-fashioned and haven't adapted to the modern world.

If this makes you want to distance yourself from them that's your choice.

You can't really be unreasonable if that's what you've chosen to do.

This os so mad to me! This "modern" world was literally created by mine and the OP's PiL's generation! I'm older than them, I did not change my name on marriage, have always shared all domestic taks with equally ancient DH, etc.

These two are still of working age - how have they managed to be such 🦖 🦖 🦕 🦕?

Pinkzara · 20/03/2026 14:09

ColdAsAWitches · 20/03/2026 14:05

No, not obvious at all. You weren't gardening. You were cleaning the house and taking things to the tip. So they turned up and offered to help clean the house and take things to the tip! I fail to see how this fits into wanting to distance yourself from them because of sexism.

Well no I wasn’t cleaning the house. I didn’t say I was.

Dh and I were packing and going to the tip.

We weren’t going to clean until the end once the house was empty and we would have done it together. Mil and Fil turned up unannounced and mil decided that it was time for me and her to start cleaning. Cleaning as in dusting, vacuuming.

It was a complete waste of time because we hadn’t even packed fully.

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RosesAndHellebores · 20/03/2026 14:08

I'm 65. I think they are small minded and ignorant more than purposefully sexist.

Inertia · 20/03/2026 14:08

I remember my grandmother being horrified that my husband cleaned baby sick out of the carpet while I cleaned up the baby- she offered to do it herself so that the man of the house didn’t have to clean (we both refused her offer).

In our family , the ingrained sexism (and racism, and ableism) tends to come from FIL. I argue, with evidence.

Pinkzara · 20/03/2026 14:06

Basquervill · 20/03/2026 12:40

It’s a good idea to distance yourself. It will benefit everybody. You won’t have to deal with people who have ideas from a different era than you, which will make you much more comfy, and your children won’t have to be aware of an older generation and get a wider understanding of people and their variability. Also it will allow your in laws to feel confused and upset and judged by family as not worthy, which will be great for them to ponder as they age further. All round a Winning tactic is to judge and reject others.

I don’t really care about their comfort to be honest. They haven’t cared about mine for all these years.

I said distance myself, not call them counts and never speak to them again.

Also I didn’t say anything about my dh or children not seeing them. My children are of an age where they’re old enough to see their grandparents themselves and dh can do what he likes.

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ColdAsAWitches · 20/03/2026 14:05

No, not obvious at all. You weren't gardening. You were cleaning the house and taking things to the tip. So they turned up and offered to help clean the house and take things to the tip! I fail to see how this fits into wanting to distance yourself from them because of sexism.

ginasevern · 20/03/2026 14:05

Given their relatively young age (for such archaic opinions) I assume your IL's are very working class OP?

Pinkzara · 20/03/2026 14:02

ColdAsAWitches · 20/03/2026 12:25

When dh and I were buying our first home and moving out of our rental. We were sorting out and doing tip runs and packing. Mil and Fil turned up unannounced to ‘help’, mil turned up with a bag of cleaning products and announced she’d come to help me to clean the property and that fil would take fb to the tip. Even though we’d not asked for any help or given any indication that I’d be cleaning alone.

The bastards! Imagine the cheek of trying to help at a stressful, busy time.

Well I think it’s quite obvious from my post what I meant.

Help would be saying “hey, is there anything I can do”.

If you were doing something and I turned up unannounced and started taking over and trying to force you to do it the way I thought, would you find that helpful or irritating?

So just say you were happily doing your garden and I turned up with a bag of cleaning products and said “leave that, your house needs a good clean instead” I doubt you’d be pleased.

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Shabang21 · 20/03/2026 14:00

I reacted in the most spectacular fashion when, at a BBQ, DH’s nephew punched his sister, who then cried and wouldn’t play with him, only for MiL to then respond with cuddles for nephew, saying “oh, what has that mean little girl done? He’s just doing what little boys do!” Lost. My. Shit.

She’s also one for telling DH to not get up to clear the table as he’s worked all day and “us girls will do it”. I remain firmly planted in my chair with steam coming out of my ears. She’s 63.

BarbiesDreamHome · 20/03/2026 12:48

I think the reason these MILs find it hard to stomach is because they've taken such pride in martyring themselves, acting like a household provider in some ways, only to be visually confronted with fact that it was all for nothing. Their husbands expected it and their DILs and sons reject it because it wasn't the meaningful offering they thought it was.

I'm completely on the same page, that it's outdated nonsense, but I think that's why they dig in, because if they don't then they may realise that their life's work wasn't actually perceived as important and that must sting.

toodleoothen · 20/03/2026 12:43

Pinkzara · 20/03/2026 11:12

But it’s ok for me to be caught in the middle?

It affects me when they place their expectations onto me.

It's fine to distance yourself, leave your DH to it, and feel no guilt, but it is also possible to change the dynamic by just not complying with any of their gendered expectations. It will be challenging for a while but they will eventually get the message. They won't change - because it will threaten their identity - but they will learn to stop expecting you to do stuff.

Basquervill · 20/03/2026 12:40

It’s a good idea to distance yourself. It will benefit everybody. You won’t have to deal with people who have ideas from a different era than you, which will make you much more comfy, and your children won’t have to be aware of an older generation and get a wider understanding of people and their variability. Also it will allow your in laws to feel confused and upset and judged by family as not worthy, which will be great for them to ponder as they age further. All round a Winning tactic is to judge and reject others.

feellikeanalien · 20/03/2026 12:30

My Dad would have been 97 this year. He and Mum, who would have been 94, shared everything. Mum worked full time until she retired and both did housework, cooking and looking after us. I don't think it's an age thing, especially at 65.

Mumstheword1983 · 20/03/2026 12:26

5128gap · 20/03/2026 12:13

I think distancing from family is a big deal that causes a LOT of drama. Its also often very difficult and upsetting for the partner who's relatives they are, who is usually balancing irritation at their behaviour against love, connection and history.
So, for that reason, I'd not distance unless it was something absolutely intolerable.
Personally while I don't love the idea of pink and blue roles, provided they are carried out with respect and all parties agree to play them, I'd see it as live and let live.
Which is not the same as going along with them. And while you're not going to get very far by insisting on going to the pub with the men or the tip with FiL, you could opt out of the segregated parts of socialising altogether, joining only the mixed part if you wanted to, and politely decline your in laws offers of help. This should be possible without the need to 'distance'.

This.

Christmassy24 · 20/03/2026 12:26

I know people in their 40s like this so I don’t think it’s age, just attitudes. Boils my blood.

ColdAsAWitches · 20/03/2026 12:25

When dh and I were buying our first home and moving out of our rental. We were sorting out and doing tip runs and packing. Mil and Fil turned up unannounced to ‘help’, mil turned up with a bag of cleaning products and announced she’d come to help me to clean the property and that fil would take fb to the tip. Even though we’d not asked for any help or given any indication that I’d be cleaning alone.

The bastards! Imagine the cheek of trying to help at a stressful, busy time.

PuppyMonkey · 20/03/2026 12:20

If they were in their 80s, I’d say it was a generational thing and try not to let it wind you up - but your PIL are five years older than me. We’re Generation X FFS, not from the distant 1950s. Tell them your DH will go and help do the food while you stay in the pub.

Ella31 · 20/03/2026 12:18

Pinkzara · 20/03/2026 11:18

The trouble is when people say just ignore them, I can’t because it winds me up so much.

Especially when they’d make pointed remarks. For example mil asking me what I’m cooking for dhs tea even though I tell her every single week that dh cooks on Saturdays. Or telling Dh to sit down he shouldn’t be clearing the table he’s been at work all week. Even though I have been at work all week.

My life has been so much more peaceful without them.

That would drive me around the bend. It's a really tough situation for you and I can see how you wouldn't want your children to think this is normal for dh and the men to be sitting on their asses