DP says I'd look younger with hair and make-up, AIBU?

Some very, very peculiar people on this thread. And probably many with very few friends.
Which ones are those? Are you now not only equating not wearing make-up with not caring about your appearance but also with not having friends?

I'm not the one judging women as lacking in effort and failing to present themselves well because they don't know eyebrow combs exist.

@godmum56of course I comb my eyebrows, with a special little eyebrow comb. They’re lovely eyebrows too. Very fond of them.

DS, without gel, has fluffy hair. At 11 years old, he gels his hair himself. He also wears contact lenses because he doesn’t like his glasses. The contacts came about as he plays rugby. He cares about how he looks and presents, and I’m very pleased.

He is heading for grammar school, and trust me - appearances are important.

Dare I tell you that my DD age 4 has her own perfume? She has a strong preference for Dior, but sometimes likes her Sol de Janeiro body spray.

Some very, very peculiar people on this thread. And probably many with very few friends.

Make up can be great, fun, useful, etc but let’s also admit that we’re socially conditioned to think women look better with it on, while also to think that it doesn’t suit men. That’s only because we’re not used to seeing men in make up, any more than we think men look great in tights and high heels to show off their shapely legs. Makeup (and hair) is an expectation on women that men don’t have, and we should admit that’s the case and that women may face prejudice or discrimination if they attend a work meeting without makeup or with a shirt that’s a bit snug. Brian from accounts is never told to smarten up and put some corrective foundation on his face and lose a few pounds if he wants to be taken seriously at work.

Disclaimer: sometimes I wear makeup and sometimes I don’t. I don’t even own an iron, let alone use one (although I can).

I would love to wear a face of makeup and neat stylish hair everyday but I just can’t be bothered.
Clean face, clean hands, hair brushed. Job done.
Hopefully one day I will feel inspired to give a shit.

There's no anti make up comments. There's anti the "fact" that women should all wear it. No we shouldn't!!

it was me who said ignore this nonsense by which I meant that it is seen as an expectation rather than a choice. I have also said that people should of course do whatever they chose with their own bodies.

"I don't understand the anti makeup brigade. What exactly is wrong with makeup. Is it because some women believe we should be ditching everything classified as overly feminine. A belief we should adopt a more masculine appearance in order to appear more powerful & give men the impression we don't care about looks. 🤔"

definitely weird. I don't think that anyone on here has said they are anti makeup, just that they choose not to use it for many reasons.

I think you might need to re read the thread! There are plenty of anti makeup commenters on here accusing women of being ‘hostages to the world’s expectations’ and telling us our children need to ‘ignore this nonsense’. I’m happy to accept not all women want to wear makeup but there’s no need to judge those that do.

Fabulous. Nobody on the thread fits any of your description.

Nobody has been anti make-up at all let alone virulently. The only anti is against the unpleasant viewpoint put across that not wearing any is failing to present yourself in your best way and that anyone's bare face looks unprofessional or unattractive as a dinner companion.

I’ll never understand the militant anti-make mindset, just do whatever you want to do and stop judging other women.

Choosing not to wear makeup does not make you morally superior, or a better feminist, or whatever.

I love the stuff, wear it every day, don’t give a flying fuck what anyone else does

See comments like this are being deliberately goady. You might find it freeing to go without makeup but not everyone does. I grew up in a very strict religious household where makeup was pretty much banned so I find it liberating to wear makeup. Each to their own.

Oh there's no doubt about it. Past a "certain age" makeup can be quite ageing. I look less "pretty"* without it but perversely a lot younger.

*according to society's standards.

In what way is not wearing makeup "masculine"?
What a weird way to think

this and the sooner the better! And raise your children to ignore this nonsense as well!

I was like this for years but as I got older I started to really resent being a hostage to the world's expectations of what women "should" look like.
Free yourself. It feels great.

Lot of people on this thread framing his answer as "just being honest"
No! He was fucking rude. I mean, who asked him? And let's face it, he was "negging" her as they say. I wonder if he behaves like this a lot.

Unnecessary and bitchy comment, it actually sounds like he’s jealous the men were nice to you even though they were elderly so shouldn’t be a threat!

We all know most people look better with a bit of make up and their hair done but it’s just the same as most men looking better with facial hair (it really is like their version of make up- look at Jason Mamoa without…)

@TheSnootiestFox does your husband expect you to sit and look at a bare face if you are out? Why is that acceptable but not the other way round?

Doesn't plaiting armpit hair count as making yourself up? XD

And I don't understand why some people don't have better things to do with their precious time, so 🙄

It really is evidence that opinions on what constitutes smart or groomed or made an effort or however you want to describe it is. Because I'm just as incredulous as you. In my opinion no child with gelled hair will look good.

OMG you comb your eyebrows????

I’m aware that make up is tradition. For women. I’m trying to establish why you feel women need to follow this tradition in order to not look scruffy when men have not traditionally done so. Why do your eyelashes and lips need things his don’t?

you make your son gel his hair????????

But not everyone cares about looking younger. I'd also say that "better" is a very subjective judgement. I don't normally say stuff like this but I really think its what women have been conditioned to do and to believe. I know its a trope but how many men think like this? Its kind of cognitively odd. I would never say that people shouldn't do what they want to do with their bodies and saying "I do it because I feel better is of course completely reasonable....but what? did you feel bad about how you looked before? Who or what made you feel like that?