Anti valuers are dumb and pathetic

Has this happened to you? Or someone you know? It’s extremely rare.

YABU

Clearly, you've never lost a child due to the worst vaccination side effect, i.e. death.

Your post is repulsive and highly ignorant.

It's absolutely ridiculous. It takes rigorous testing to get a drug/vaccine to the point where it becomes publicly available. Experts in their fields spend years making sure these things are safe. The results need to be replicable and valid. Lots of the people involved will have PhDs, or years of experience. But no, Bob obviously knows better because he spent a day looking at non mainstream resources because scientists and Big Pharma are evil and their data can't be trusted.

There will always be some people who come to harm due to vaccination, in the same way that anybody could have a poor reaction to literally drug in the BNF. It doesn't mean vaccines aren't safe for the vast majority of people.

DS had a 'reaction' to his 12 month vaccines (had a high temperature and was miserable, clingy and slept a lot) and again with his 18 month jabs, and I had one to my Covid booster. If you mean a bad reaction/allergic reaction or vaccine damage, then no, that's not the same thing at all and I wouldn't expect them to have another dose of the one that caused the issue.

I wonder if it's the 'we've had enough of listening to the experts' mentality that sprung up around Brexit? Why listen to the experts when your opinion is just as good?
Even within my church people argue that even though the church leadership strongly advises that you get your kids vaccinated (and we believe these people are chosen by God to lead us,) that their belief to not get their kids vaccinated is the right one. It's bonkers.

There are children who don't cope well with vaccinations. The number may be higher than the few, rare examples you think. When you have children who cope very easily with their shots, it can be easy to fall into judgement of others.

I have an ex friend who had ‘:done her research’ on vaccines and couldn’t see that even 100 hours of research is unlikely go give her the same level of understanding as people with medical degrees and years of experience in the field. This person thought that she knew stuff that doctors don’t know.

She even sent me a link to a charlatan’s website. The website owner has a medical degree and is an anti vaxxer. He reckons he has come up with some potion that is better than a vaccine ….. and conveniently be can sell it to you. The man may have a medical degree but he is a businessman. And a rich one at that.

Most people aren't qualified to research. Looking at Google isn't research! It's a genuine skill one undertaken and peer reviewed and yet people still say they think they know better. What they really mean is that they are willing to bet their child's life that enough other people have taken the perceived risk for them.

Short of a doctor certified exemption, they shouldn't be able to attend other places with kids, like soft play, school, international travel etc.

Yeah, when you see outbreaks of preventable diseases, it's hard to disagree.

I can't stand hearing 'I've done my research' and it turns out to be someone ranting on tiktok or something. Have you read numerous peer reviewed articles and critically appraised the evidence using a good database? No? Then you really haven't done your research.

Understanding of immunity and vaccination is piss poor, despite it being covered in school. There needs to be a significant public health campaign around it. Some sort of lesson around critically appraising evidence from different sources also needs to be implemented in schools.