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AIBU to think this punishment is unreasonable?

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teamaven · 18/03/2026 20:44

This is probably going to be divisive 💀 not looking for any judgment, only opinions.

My DD has just turned 5. I got a message from her teacher to say that at playtime, a child (boy also aged 5) had snatched some flowers off my daughter that she had picked at playtime. My daughter in turn hit the child, and therefore was to lose the next day’s lunchtime play. I will just add that she is not violent and this up until now has been a one off.

My first reaction was a bit horrified that she would hit someone and I was disappointed.

However, the first reaction of multiple family members have been ‘well they shouldn’t have snatched her flowers off of her, there you go’. My family is very well respected, especially my dad who is very professional so I was a bit shocked he would say this! But after much thought 🤷🏼‍♀️ 🤷🏼‍♀️. At the least I think both children should have been told off in this situation.

What are your opinions - before I draft my reply to the teacher?

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Ilovelurchers · 19/03/2026 13:52

Honestly, a face year old snatched flowers - are you seriously nursing a desire for retribution about this? Let it go.

Obviously your daughter got a sanction for hitting someone. School would be remiss if they ignored that - surely you agree?

I can't fathom what the "respectability" of your family has to do with it. Are we supposed to believe their opinions count for more, somehow, than those of the proletariat flower-snatching scum?

(I am being facetious, obviously, but also I think I have a point .....)

marcyhermit · 19/03/2026 13:49

Please don't bother the teacher with this pettiness.
I'm sure the other child was corrected for snatching but the school likely has a zero tolerance approach to violence.
You can't expect the be told how the teacher deals with another child, only your own.

BillieWiper · 19/03/2026 13:45

CurlewKate · 19/03/2026 12:22

What’s your family well respected for?

In the boxing community?!

Q2C4 · 19/03/2026 13:24

purser25 · 19/03/2026 12:14

Why was your daughter picking flowers unless they were daisies she should know we don’t pick flowers..

OP has confirmed several times on this thread that the flowers were daisies and dandelions.

usedtobeaylis · 19/03/2026 13:04

There does need to be a consequence for hitting so I wouldn't dispute that but on general I would be monitoring going forward because schools enable that shit from boys and then punish girls for reacting.

caringcarer · 19/03/2026 13:01

5128gap · 18/03/2026 20:47

I think you should just reply thank you for letting you know, you support the sanction and will reinforce at home with DD that hitting someone who has snatched from you is not appropriate, and if it happens to her again she is to tell the teacher.

This.

Tings · 19/03/2026 12:56

CurlewKate · 19/03/2026 12:22

What’s your family well respected for?

Floristry.

Aquarius91 · 19/03/2026 12:55

Email the teacher and tell them your father is VERY well respected, and share his opinion on the situation. Let us know how you get on, won’t you. 😁

IdentityCris · 19/03/2026 12:50

CeciliaMars · 18/03/2026 21:24

Please don’t draft a reply to the teacher. The teacher has already spent precious time dealing with this in the way they see best. Just bloody support them. You are why teachers are leaving in droves.

Oh, FFS, if a teacher is inclined to leave the profession because she gets a polite reply from a parent asking a reasonable question, the profession is better off without them.

OP, I'd respond saying something along the lines that you completely agree that hitting is not acceptable and you have reinforced this with your child; you hope that the other child has been told that snatching another child's things is equally inappropriate?

Runnersandtoms · 19/03/2026 12:27

Even in a situation where one child hit and another hit back the second child still needs to know it's unacceptable to hit. When one child tells me someone hit them first I say then you move away and tell a grown up you don't hit back.

Hitting back is very nearly as bad as hitting first. Hitting due to other provocation is completely unacceptable and you should be teaching your child this.

No wonder the world is as it is,when so many parents support their child's 'right' to use violence.

mbosnz · 19/03/2026 12:22

I think that punishment is fine. Don't worry about the other kid, worry about yours, in this instance. Coming down hard on hitting and getting physical, sooner rather than later, is a very good idea, and means the message that we keep our hands to ourselves or we suffer severe consequnces is a good one to embed early and unamibiguously. I did with my DD when she was at primary, and unlike the other two little madams involved, mine did not go on to get herself in further trouble for getting physical.

CurlewKate · 19/03/2026 12:22

What’s your family well respected for?

BillieWiper · 19/03/2026 12:18

'You don't hit people. If you do you will be punished. Adults who hit eachother can go to prison over it. It's no joke. If you hit someone and they fell and knocked their head they could die.

No bunch of daisies is worth that.'

Tell her that.

(I hope they weren't daffodils or something from the school garden?)

purser25 · 19/03/2026 12:14

Why was your daughter picking flowers unless they were daisies she should know we don’t pick flowers..

Greentrainers · 19/03/2026 12:12

YANBU.
I’m an adult, and if someone snatched one of my possessions, or took a project I’m working on off me, I’d hit them and try to get it back if I had the chance!

He started it, she ended it!

He should’ve just been told it served him right and not to snatch in the future and that be the end of it.

I think it’s a bit messed up instead he got the message that a girl will be punished for responding appropriately when he does something bad, and that the girl now may feel less confident standing up for herself in the future.

Lmnop22 · 19/03/2026 12:11

HoskinsChoice · 19/03/2026 10:37

Of course it matters! Picking daisies/dandelions is probably more acceptable but picking daffodils is definitely not! Daffodils each have one flower, only flower once a year and are usually planted by councils so funded by the tax payer. It is absolutely not OK to pick them.

Picking daisies/dandelions in my opinion is also inappropriate for a raft of aesthetic and environmental reasons but that's probably more debatable. Daffodils is not debatable, it is illegal - it is actually classed as theft and you could and should be hit with up to a £5k fine.

Now we should be fining just turned 5 year olds who pick daffodils without knowing the botanical and financial repercussions?

Jesus.

She didn’t even pick daffodils anyway 😂

teamaven · 19/03/2026 11:08

HoskinsChoice · 19/03/2026 10:37

Of course it matters! Picking daisies/dandelions is probably more acceptable but picking daffodils is definitely not! Daffodils each have one flower, only flower once a year and are usually planted by councils so funded by the tax payer. It is absolutely not OK to pick them.

Picking daisies/dandelions in my opinion is also inappropriate for a raft of aesthetic and environmental reasons but that's probably more debatable. Daffodils is not debatable, it is illegal - it is actually classed as theft and you could and should be hit with up to a £5k fine.

I said I meant dandelions. These flowers are NOT planted they grow wildly on the field and the kids make daisy chains etc at lunch. It’s really not that deep

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LoveSandbanks · 19/03/2026 10:49

UncannyFanny · 18/03/2026 20:46

How does that logic translate when she’s in her 20’s? That’s it ok to hit someone if they snatch? Come on now…

I’m in my 50s and if someone tries to snatch my handbag I’m going to hit them!

HoskinsChoice · 19/03/2026 10:37

teamaven · 19/03/2026 09:57

I meant dandelions. They grow wild, like weeds. Does it really matter? Mumsnet is a weird place 😵‍💫

Of course it matters! Picking daisies/dandelions is probably more acceptable but picking daffodils is definitely not! Daffodils each have one flower, only flower once a year and are usually planted by councils so funded by the tax payer. It is absolutely not OK to pick them.

Picking daisies/dandelions in my opinion is also inappropriate for a raft of aesthetic and environmental reasons but that's probably more debatable. Daffodils is not debatable, it is illegal - it is actually classed as theft and you could and should be hit with up to a £5k fine.

WorstPaceScenario · 19/03/2026 10:13

teamaven · 18/03/2026 20:46

If you re-read the post, I agreed. But I think both children should have been told off.

True, but hitting and snatching flowers are not the same so the punishment needn't be the same. If I snatched a piece of paper form someone at work I'd expect to be verbally challenged on it; if I hit someone at work I'd expect to be sacked. Clearly it's not quite the same with five year olds, but the punishment should still be proportionate

Growlybear83 · 19/03/2026 10:08

@teamavenof course it makes a huge difference if they’re daffodils. Dandelions and daisies are weeds, which will grow back quickly, daffodils aren’t and will only flower once each year. If all the children picked daffodils, they would all be gone in no time.

teamaven · 19/03/2026 09:57

HoskinsChoice · 19/03/2026 08:00

Wait. What?! She's picking daffodils?! That's fucking disgraceful! They're planted for everyone to enjoy, not for you/your child to pick. Imagine if every family was that selfish. Please teach her not to do this.

I meant dandelions. They grow wild, like weeds. Does it really matter? Mumsnet is a weird place 😵‍💫

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Jc2001 · 19/03/2026 08:10

teamaven · 18/03/2026 20:46

If you re-read the post, I agreed. But I think both children should have been told off.

Your AIBU was about your daughter's pinishment being too harsh.

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 19/03/2026 08:07

Keepingthingsinteresting · 19/03/2026 07:21

But that’s the point, this sort of stuff starts when they are tiny and becomes the norm, boys will be boys etc. Little girls need to be taught to be strong and take no shit.

And if it were a girl that did the snatching, would you similarly advocate she slap her also?

You are projecting.

HoskinsChoice · 19/03/2026 08:00

teamaven · 18/03/2026 21:10

No they will have just been the wild type daises/buttercups/daffodils. She loves flowers and is constantly bringing them home (much to my washing machine’s delight) so I understand why she was angry but yes the hitting not acceptable

Wait. What?! She's picking daffodils?! That's fucking disgraceful! They're planted for everyone to enjoy, not for you/your child to pick. Imagine if every family was that selfish. Please teach her not to do this.