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Charltonstrek · 18/03/2026 10:30

Im finding the level of racism here in the UK to be very unsettling and it seems to be getting worse and im finding it depressing as I have a Muslim partner and I wonder if there is a future here for him. Ive mostly witnessed this on social media with some very derogatory comments anybody else or am I too sensitive

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Clavinova · 18/03/2026 19:53

nomas · 18/03/2026 19:49

The largest mosque in the UK accommodates 6000 in the prayer hall, not 13000.

And safety is an issue for all in Egypt, Muslims and Christians alike.

Gloria insisted there is no mass Christian worship in the ME, has been proved wrong, and is scrambling around desperately.

I took the number from this BBC report;

The mosque in south-west London is thought to be the largest in Britain with a capacity for 13,000 worshippers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62x53q1wp9o

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 18/03/2026 19:53

Only the ignorant try to reduce racism to a league table of oppression. So it stands to reason that hate crime is your ‘solid’ metric. You are conveniently ignoring things like structural racism where harm is arguable most measurable: disproportionate risk of death. That's about as concrete a form of harm as it gets.

Turning racism into a competition over who has it ‘worse’ is a pretty pointless exercise. Different groups face different harms. So if your contribution is that the Jewish community 'has it worse', you have nothing intelligent or useful to add to add to the discussion.

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 19:53

nomas · 18/03/2026 19:49

The largest mosque in the UK accommodates 6000 in the prayer hall, not 13000.

And safety is an issue for all in Egypt, Muslims and Christians alike.

Gloria insisted there is no mass Christian worship in the ME, has been proved wrong, and is scrambling around desperately.

'Desperate' Grin. It was you who thinks they're all holding hands in Egypt, Syria and Lebanon and not actually persecuting Christians and slaughtering them.

nomas · 18/03/2026 19:52

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 19:45

Oh very tolerant and accepting of Christians though apparently Confused

Yes Muslims and Christians do live together well for the most part. A few extremists and your bad wishes won’t change that.

Still ignoring Lebanon I see.

nomas · 18/03/2026 19:51

KatiePricesKnickers · 18/03/2026 19:43

3,000 people, the VAST majority Muslims, in the center of London, celebrating the end of Ramadan. Why?
It’s a religious celebration, not a political display. Why not in mosques or at home?

This is hilarious. People accuse Muslims of not integrating and when Muslims put on event inviting all communities to share food, you still moan.

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 18/03/2026 19:51

Hullabmoo · 18/03/2026 14:47

An immigrant shouldn't rely on the state to provide lessons though. Whether that's British people abroad or immigrants in the UK.

Precisely

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 19:50

5128gap · 18/03/2026 19:47

Nope. A sweeping generalisation would be to say 'all British people are like Alf Garnett with their 1970s racism'. What I actually said was that there had been an influx of Alf Garnetts with their 1970s racism. Which there has. However I'm not suggesting they represent the British public as a whole, rather that these unpleasant characters are spoiling things for British people.

Ah an influx. Gotcha. Very different.

nomas · 18/03/2026 19:49

Clavinova · 18/03/2026 19:39

The Cathedral in your link accommodates around 8,000 worshipers - the largest mosque in the UK accommodates up to 13,000.

Did you watch the video in your link?

The report states that the inaugural mass was held under heavy security - after a policeman was killed the day before trying to diffuse a bomb outside a Christian church. The blast was described as 'a sadly familiar sight' for a 'persecuted community' with more than 100 members of the Christian community killed by terrorist attacks since 2016 (the inauguration was January 2019).

The largest mosque in the UK accommodates 6000 in the prayer hall, not 13000.

And safety is an issue for all in Egypt, Muslims and Christians alike.

Gloria insisted there is no mass Christian worship in the ME, has been proved wrong, and is scrambling around desperately.

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 19:48

nomas · 18/03/2026 19:34

Gloria, your game is to keep changing the goal posts and hope no one notices.

You asked for examples of mass Christian worship in the ME , were given them and ignored them.

We’ve already played the ‘aren’t you proud’ game, how long are you keep going to keep flogging a dead horse?

I'll keep repeating myself until you accept and agree that we are a very tolerant and inclusive nation and nope, public Christian worship is not tolerated and included in strict ME countries.

Are you proud then, is that a yes?

5128gap · 18/03/2026 19:47

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 19:31

'My post is there for all to see and there's not a shred of anti British xenophobia'

Alf garnett, 1970s racism? Sweeping generalisation then?

Nope. A sweeping generalisation would be to say 'all British people are like Alf Garnett with their 1970s racism'. What I actually said was that there had been an influx of Alf Garnetts with their 1970s racism. Which there has. However I'm not suggesting they represent the British public as a whole, rather that these unpleasant characters are spoiling things for British people.

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 19:45

Clavinova · 18/03/2026 19:39

The Cathedral in your link accommodates around 8,000 worshipers - the largest mosque in the UK accommodates up to 13,000.

Did you watch the video in your link?

The report states that the inaugural mass was held under heavy security - after a policeman was killed the day before trying to diffuse a bomb outside a Christian church. The blast was described as 'a sadly familiar sight' for a 'persecuted community' with more than 100 members of the Christian community killed by terrorist attacks since 2016 (the inauguration was January 2019).

Oh very tolerant and accepting of Christians though apparently Confused

KatiePricesKnickers · 18/03/2026 19:43

nomas · 18/03/2026 18:09

Why? 3,000 people of all faiths and no faiths were fed for free, whats wrong with that?

3,000 people, the VAST majority Muslims, in the center of London, celebrating the end of Ramadan. Why?
It’s a religious celebration, not a political display. Why not in mosques or at home?

MannoseHelp · 18/03/2026 19:40

Bringemout · 18/03/2026 19:06

She didn’t say islamaphobia, she said racism, does racism only affect muslim people?

Look, this is my point. If somebody said that their child was being bullied because they were in a wheelchair and was this kind of discrimination getting worse, and then somebody posted in response that their child was severely autistic and that attracted much worse bullying, I would think that was a dick move. As I would if it was the other way round. That’s the point I was making about your post. If you don’t understand that, I am afraid I can’t help you

Clavinova · 18/03/2026 19:39

nomas · 18/03/2026 18:38

@Gloriia

And here is the inauguration of a massive new Cathedral in Egypt.

Muslim places of worship in the UK are nowhere near this large.

The Cathedral in your link accommodates around 8,000 worshipers - the largest mosque in the UK accommodates up to 13,000.

Did you watch the video in your link?

The report states that the inaugural mass was held under heavy security - after a policeman was killed the day before trying to diffuse a bomb outside a Christian church. The blast was described as 'a sadly familiar sight' for a 'persecuted community' with more than 100 members of the Christian community killed by terrorist attacks since 2016 (the inauguration was January 2019).

MannoseHelp · 18/03/2026 19:38

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 19:05

Well it's obviously relevant to compare our inclusion and tolerance to other countries Confused and nope, we aren't 'getting worse' and while extremists do not represent all Muslims nor do racists represent all Brits.

Well when the racism is getting worse or not, is the point of discussion. It’s an opinion and not fact.

nomas · 18/03/2026 19:34

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 19:30

You said Syria and Egypt, 2 places where Christians are persecuted and slaughtered so no, strict Muslim countries do not allow public displays of Christianity like we allow other religious worship.

Can you really not agree that we are a very inclusive country?! Are you a Brit, if yes aren't you proud of our diversity and tolerance?

Gloria, your game is to keep changing the goal posts and hope no one notices.

You asked for examples of mass Christian worship in the ME , were given them and ignored them.

We’ve already played the ‘aren’t you proud’ game, how long are you keep going to keep flogging a dead horse?

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 19:31

'My post is there for all to see and there's not a shred of anti British xenophobia'

Alf garnett, 1970s racism? Sweeping generalisation then?

nomas · 18/03/2026 19:31

ZookeeperSE · 18/03/2026 19:17

There is a double standard at play here.
Not by me, there isn't.

If someone brings up Islamophobia in the first few posts on an OP talking about about anti-Semitism, they would instantly be accused of derailing
So what? If some people are Islamophobic, that means anyone being Antisemitic gets a bye?

What did she say?
You want an Antisemitic comment, that has rightly been deleted, repeated for your own satisfaction? Why? Do you have a sliding scale of what is and isn't acceptable when it comes to Antisemitism?

So what? If some people are Islamophobic, that means anyone being Antisemitic gets a bye?

Gets a what? This makes zero sense.

What did she say?
You want an Antisemitic comment, that has rightly been deleted, repeated for your own satisfaction? Why? Do you have a sliding scale of what is and isn't acceptable when it comes to Antisemitism?

She could have called someone a wally for all we know.

You are not the arbiter of what has been said and hasn’t been said on this thread.

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 19:30

nomas · 18/03/2026 19:11

The OP didn’t say anything about other countries so you saying ‘But starting a thread suggesting the UK is any worse than anywhere else will and should be challenged. We aren't, we are far better than many places. I'd rather live here than the intolerant ME for example.’ is completely bizarre and not obvious at all. She didn’t start the thread that is in your imagination.

You also were emphatic that Christians in the ME never meet in public places and yet when given examples of Lebanon and Egypt, you ignore them.

You said Syria and Egypt, 2 places where Christians are persecuted and slaughtered so no, strict Muslim countries do not allow public displays of Christianity like we allow other religious worship.

Can you really not agree that we are a very inclusive country?! Are you a Brit, if yes aren't you proud of our diversity and tolerance?

5128gap · 18/03/2026 19:27

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 18:54

'And I'd be very thankful to live in an inclusive nation of it wasn't for the influx of Alf Garnetts, yapping on with their 1970s racist rhetoric spoiling it for those of us who enjoy living in a diverse society.'

That sounds xenophobic tbh, a sweeping generalisation of what you think Brits are like? The majority are kind and tolerant. Like the majority of Muslims.

The extremists and racists are not representative of white and brown people. We should all have realised by now that we shouldn't label any nation by the extremists and if all islamists aren't jihadis then all Brits are not islamophobes.

No. Try harder. My post is there for all to see and there's not a shred of anti British xenophobia in it. I'm referring to a particular cohort that are all over these threads with the type of racist hyperbole I thought we'd seen the back of somewhere in the 80s.
I'd like to think they were a minority, but as a white British person I'm not best placed to comment on the level of racism faced by people who aren't me, so I'll stay in my lane on that one and take people's word for it.
I'm commenting on what I see and what I experience. A cohort of racists perpetuating stereotypes about people who follow the religions of my friends and neighbours, and trying to divide the communities many of us value.

nomas · 18/03/2026 19:18

Bringemout · 18/03/2026 19:15

I don’t see why you are so upset about it being pointed out that his risk of experiencing a hate crime is lower than a Jews risk?

Edited

Oh come off it. Here is your mealy mouthed post again. Just awful and no need.

I think you are right but per capita Jews are the most likely to experience racism. We have definitely been ignoring that as a society, it’s extremely sad and an indictment of where the Uk is today.
I think the problem is that people have been watching things like the pro pal marches, people appearing to support hamas, grooming gangs, some poor soul seems to be raped every few days it its often an afghan or small boats asylum seeker. I can imagine for many muslims it’s extremely painful to be associated with any extremist or criminal elements but I’m not sure what you do about that. People read and watch the news. I think people know that it would be ridiculous to stigmatise every single muslim.

ZookeeperSE · 18/03/2026 19:17

nomas · 18/03/2026 17:27

There is a double standard at play here.

If someone brings up Islamophobia in the first few posts on an OP talking about about anti-Semitism, they would instantly be accused of derailing.

What did she say?

Edited

There is a double standard at play here.
Not by me, there isn't.

If someone brings up Islamophobia in the first few posts on an OP talking about about anti-Semitism, they would instantly be accused of derailing
So what? If some people are Islamophobic, that means anyone being Antisemitic gets a bye?

What did she say?
You want an Antisemitic comment, that has rightly been deleted, repeated for your own satisfaction? Why? Do you have a sliding scale of what is and isn't acceptable when it comes to Antisemitism?

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 18/03/2026 19:17

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 13:43

I would say the Jewish people have suffered the greatest ongoing persecution for their ethnicity over the last 2,500 years. How do you feel about antisemitism? Why don’t you want to discuss that?

Why don't you start your own thread? This thread is about racism in the UK, not lets build a hierarchy of oppression and gaslight all the other ethnic groups.

Bringemout · 18/03/2026 19:15

nomas · 18/03/2026 19:12

She was talking about the racism experienced about her Muslim partner and that he was down about it, and you pipe up with Jews have it worse than Muslims. It’s not a race to the bottom.

I don’t see why you are so upset about it being pointed out that his risk of experiencing a hate crime is lower than a Jews risk?

Firstbornunicorn · 18/03/2026 19:15

ginasevern · 18/03/2026 16:21

@Firstbornunicorn "But sometimes it's driven by the fact that they can speak English, so it makes sense to go to a country where they speak the language. Or sometimes there are relatives here who came over during Windrush."

I can tell you don't live in an area with large amounts of asylum seekers. Firstly, a very high proportion of them don't speak English at all and don't come from ex British countries. Secondly, are you seriously saying that any of them have connections to the Windrush generation? That's absolutely bonkers. A tiny (virtually non existent percentage) are from the Caribbean. The majority come from Syria, Afghanistan, Eritrea and Iran.

And you can't "tell" anything. I work with asylum seekers 🙄