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Racism in uk

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Charltonstrek · 18/03/2026 10:30

Im finding the level of racism here in the UK to be very unsettling and it seems to be getting worse and im finding it depressing as I have a Muslim partner and I wonder if there is a future here for him. Ive mostly witnessed this on social media with some very derogatory comments anybody else or am I too sensitive

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SmallChildCryingTearsofButter · 19/03/2026 17:29

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5128gap · 19/03/2026 17:18

CatSpells · 19/03/2026 16:56

Really? They're extremely well promoted, even outside the community. I'd be extremely surprised if anyone hadn't heard of them. There's numerous ways to report hate crime, you can do it via email for one.

Yes, but they still require a response. HCRC have trained staff who interview the person, allow them to talk if they want to, give advice, signpost to help as needed. They support with form completion and liaise with the police. Then they complete records and process data. It's not simply a matter if going 'there's another one' and adding it to a list of stats. It takes time and staff and that takes money.
I'm making no comment on which problem is the greater. I'm simply correcting the misapprehension that resources don't impact ability to report.

SmallChildCryingTearsofButter · 19/03/2026 17:16

5128gap · 19/03/2026 15:14

Tell MAMA reported 6313 cases in 2024. The police reported 4478 cases. I don't know if the perpetrators were white (does it matter?) or the number of crimes per perpetrator so not perfect numbers, but some to be going on with.
I don't think anyone had said you can't hate Islam, have they? I think its when people hate other people simply because they are followers of Islam that the criticism begins. However, you can even hate Muslims if you like. Provided you don't turn your emotions into actions that harm people, you're free to hate who you like.

I don't know if the perpetrators were white (does it matter?)

Yes it matters quite a lot when we are being blamed for it. Attacks between ethnic groups are an issue as they bring entrenched rivalries with them from their home countries. That is not our fault. That is due to a political decision made by people who are then punishing us for dissent.

When OP and many in the government wish to shut down our free speech and further punish us it matters very much.

SmallChildCryingTearsofButter · 19/03/2026 17:04

CatSpells · 19/03/2026 12:33

You're kidding right? Have you not heard of The British Muslim trust, who replaced tell mama for reporting hate crimes against Muslims? They've existed since 2012! It's very divisive to insist only one religious faith has these government funded services.

Yes exactly. It is not in the interests of the organisation receiving government funds to discover and monitor Islamophobia to not find any.

The trouble as well is that the definition of Islamophobia is so broad it catches many things, even normal criticism of anti social or potentially criminal behaviour. Even then per capita it is pretty low.

We also don’t have proper reporting of the proportion Islamophobia coming from other ethnic groups who have brought their entrenched rivalries here from their home countries. It is all blamed on us OG Brits.

CatSpells · 19/03/2026 16:56

5128gap · 19/03/2026 16:47

In fairness it impacts it a lot. The more money an organisation receives the better it can promote its service to its target audience. The more access points it can create and staff, the more reports it can recieve.

Really? They're extremely well promoted, even outside the community. I'd be extremely surprised if anyone hadn't heard of them. There's numerous ways to report hate crime, you can do it via email for one.

SmallChildCryingTearsofButter · 19/03/2026 16:54

Busybeemumm · 18/03/2026 11:46

Where is your evidence for this? We had an MP who compared Muslim women wearing the burka as 'letter boxes' and still went on to be PM. Imagine if something like that was said about Jewish women who wear wigs?!

That’s not really racist though is it. The wearing of full face covering is based on religion.

There nay be a perception if increased racism due to the media and certain politically motivated people yelling racism at every opportunity, like at Suella Braverman for raising the specific issue of the grooming gangs comprising men originating from Pakistan. Her political opponents went to town on that.

It shouldn’t be deemed racist to call out bad behaviour by a specific group.

5128gap · 19/03/2026 16:47

CatSpells · 19/03/2026 16:37

Now I know you're being disingenuous. At first you stated there were no official bodies to which Muslim hate crime could be reported which skewed official data, and once corrected, say yeah, but they receive a lot less funding.... What's that got to do with anything? Why would that impact Muslims ability to report? C'mon now. Stop with the whataboutery.

In fairness it impacts it a lot. The more money an organisation receives the better it can promote its service to its target audience. The more access points it can create and staff, the more reports it can recieve.

CatSpells · 19/03/2026 16:37

nomas · 19/03/2026 13:20

Hardly comparable. CST were given £18 million by Keir Starmer for one year, Tell Mama were given £500k.

Now I know you're being disingenuous. At first you stated there were no official bodies to which Muslim hate crime could be reported which skewed official data, and once corrected, say yeah, but they receive a lot less funding.... What's that got to do with anything? Why would that impact Muslims ability to report? C'mon now. Stop with the whataboutery.

ToWhitToWhoo · 19/03/2026 16:07

Basquervill · 19/03/2026 15:02

Rupert Lowe seems to be doing extremely well. So I guess British people have started to feel that they have over extended their good nature, to their own detriment.

If that’s what you call racism, the meaning of the word has been lost. Which, of course, everyone knows is the case. Apart from those not paying attention.

Rpert Lowe is a monster of pure evil. And he isn't doing that well, though Farage unfortunately is.

ToWhitToWhoo · 19/03/2026 16:05

It's not a competition. AntIsemitIsm AND Islamophobia are horrible and have both increased recently (though probably neither is as bad as 50 years ago). Both are unacceptable, and neither justifies or minimizes the other- or for that matter any other form of racism.

Social media, especially Twitter/X, has a very very baleful influence.

nomoreforks · 19/03/2026 15:41

Everyone is angry these days and they align themselves with different groups of people to complain about other groups of people. This is exacerbated by bots on social media which i guess come from lots of different dodgy sources (china, russis,iran, US and so on). The bots try to encourage hatred between different groups of people. It is difficult to see racism against one group in isolation as it is all different racial groups from different groups. It is not just race though , it can be nationality, sex, disability, age, weight etc.. Social media encourages people to hate other groups of people.

LadyVioletBridgerton · 19/03/2026 15:31

I’m not racist. However, apparently a white person isn’t allowed to call a person of colour out on any sort of bad behaviour without being called a racist these days.

5128gap · 19/03/2026 15:21

Pineneedlesincarpet · 19/03/2026 14:58

Also, why are we calling a spanner a "wrench" now? Important point.

Probably for the same reason we're calling EDI DEI, the PCs in the EA 'identity politics' and are being encouraged to believe there are hammer and sickle wielding monsters under our beds.

5128gap · 19/03/2026 15:14

Naunet · 19/03/2026 12:51

How many white people are going around beating up Muslims and yelling racial slurs? Or do actual numbers only matter in one direction? Also why exactly can't we hate Islam? I hate all religion, yet its only this one people have a problem with me hating, why is that?

Tell MAMA reported 6313 cases in 2024. The police reported 4478 cases. I don't know if the perpetrators were white (does it matter?) or the number of crimes per perpetrator so not perfect numbers, but some to be going on with.
I don't think anyone had said you can't hate Islam, have they? I think its when people hate other people simply because they are followers of Islam that the criticism begins. However, you can even hate Muslims if you like. Provided you don't turn your emotions into actions that harm people, you're free to hate who you like.

Basquervill · 19/03/2026 15:02

Rupert Lowe seems to be doing extremely well. So I guess British people have started to feel that they have over extended their good nature, to their own detriment.

If that’s what you call racism, the meaning of the word has been lost. Which, of course, everyone knows is the case. Apart from those not paying attention.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 19/03/2026 14:58

Also, why are we calling a spanner a "wrench" now? Important point.

5128gap · 19/03/2026 14:54

Hoardasurass · 19/03/2026 14:12

Dog whistles is a far left identity politics slogan ment to shit debate down.
Sorry to disappoint you and throw a wrench in your theory but im not rich or privalliged. I'm from a working class family and worked hard all my life even with my disabilities until I had to give up work to care for my extremely disabled child.
People can disagree about how we spend our tax money and how much tax should be paid but this government is taxing us into destitution as a country destroying the ability of ordinary people to start businesses and create jobs.

And dismissing a belief in greater wealth equality as 'politics of envy' isn't designed to shut down debate? Rather than ask people why they believe it, an assumption is made that they're coming from a place of jealousy, emotionally rather than intellectually driven. Its belittling and designed to discredit.
Similarly aping US terminology to refer the evidenced belief that some people in society by virtue of certain characteristics will likely struggle harder to achieve less, because society works for people who are not them, is reductive.
You haven't thrown a wrench in my theory. Lots of WC people lean to the right, as shown by the popularity of Reform. Clearly the government are getting it wrong for many WC people with their taxation policies. However they're not getting it wrong because they're 'hard left'.

inamarina · 19/03/2026 14:45

nomas · 19/03/2026 10:01

Because many other communities were invited to share the festivities and food.

Muslims are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

I’m not saying it’s necessarily a bad thing, I just don’t really see it as a sign of integration.
I’m an immigrant myself. If the town I live in in the UK facilitated/allowed a festival for people from my culture in a public place, I would just see it as a friendly gesture from the town’s side.

Greyblankie · 19/03/2026 14:37

Busybeemumm · 18/03/2026 12:26

These stats are based on people actually reporting them in the first place and so therefore not completely reliable.

People of Muslim faith are also more likely to experience social disadvantage in education and employment therefore may also be less likely to report racism due to language barriers and not knowing who/how to report.

Then they should learn how to speak English

Hullabmoo · 19/03/2026 14:23

nomas · 19/03/2026 13:20

Hardly comparable. CST were given £18 million by Keir Starmer for one year, Tell Mama were given £500k.

I think you're being very disingenuous. The reason for the difference in funding is obvious (CST provide physical security services) and is not relevant to how much each organisation supports the reporting of hate crime.

Hoardasurass · 19/03/2026 14:12

5128gap · 19/03/2026 13:08

Sound bites like 'politics of envy' and 'punishment for hard work' are dog whistles for privileged people who want to pay low tax. And while I understand their self interest, what is a problem for them personally isn't necessarily a problem for society. (I don't expect us to agree on that!)
I'm not aware that anyone but TRAs would label FWS and SM as far right, and think its extremely unfortunate that GC people in general have been lumped in with the far right. I suppose its a bit like tigers and big cats, all right wingers are sex realists but not all sex realists are right wing. As evidenced by the Communist Party.

Dog whistles is a far left identity politics slogan ment to shit debate down.
Sorry to disappoint you and throw a wrench in your theory but im not rich or privalliged. I'm from a working class family and worked hard all my life even with my disabilities until I had to give up work to care for my extremely disabled child.
People can disagree about how we spend our tax money and how much tax should be paid but this government is taxing us into destitution as a country destroying the ability of ordinary people to start businesses and create jobs.

nomas · 19/03/2026 13:20

CatSpells · 19/03/2026 12:33

You're kidding right? Have you not heard of The British Muslim trust, who replaced tell mama for reporting hate crimes against Muslims? They've existed since 2012! It's very divisive to insist only one religious faith has these government funded services.

Hardly comparable. CST were given £18 million by Keir Starmer for one year, Tell Mama were given £500k.

Firtreefiona · 19/03/2026 13:16

5128gap · 19/03/2026 13:08

Sound bites like 'politics of envy' and 'punishment for hard work' are dog whistles for privileged people who want to pay low tax. And while I understand their self interest, what is a problem for them personally isn't necessarily a problem for society. (I don't expect us to agree on that!)
I'm not aware that anyone but TRAs would label FWS and SM as far right, and think its extremely unfortunate that GC people in general have been lumped in with the far right. I suppose its a bit like tigers and big cats, all right wingers are sex realists but not all sex realists are right wing. As evidenced by the Communist Party.

I suppose it depends on your interpretation of what tax is reasonable and what tax is unreasonable. If you earn £75k to £100k in Scotland your marginal tax rate is 45% (47% if you include NICs). If you earn £100k to £125k it’s 67%. Add 9% student loan repayments to these amounts and it looks pretty hard left to me. These rates were lower but increased due to pressure by the Scottish greens. A lot of these taxes are avoided by people just choosing not to work as hard (see the latest IFS press release). This is hard left policy in action.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 19/03/2026 13:10

nomas · 19/03/2026 11:09

The ones protesting against Brits and Germans making it difficult for Spaniards to buy homes.

Bit vague.
These are the ones that are "tired of hypocrisy" according to you. What evidence do you have to support that.

5128gap · 19/03/2026 13:08

Hoardasurass · 19/03/2026 12:40

Identity politics and an ever more authoritarian government are the main symptoms along with mangling of actual left wing politics to punish anyone who works hard and saves for a future its becoming the politics of envy and it's bad for everyone.
Your complaint about flotsam being labelled as far left could be put for the groups that are labelled far right and nazis like sex matters and for women Scotland, they're not right or left wing groups but because they stand up for women as a sex class and reject gender ideology they are labelled as such but thays identity politics for you

Sound bites like 'politics of envy' and 'punishment for hard work' are dog whistles for privileged people who want to pay low tax. And while I understand their self interest, what is a problem for them personally isn't necessarily a problem for society. (I don't expect us to agree on that!)
I'm not aware that anyone but TRAs would label FWS and SM as far right, and think its extremely unfortunate that GC people in general have been lumped in with the far right. I suppose its a bit like tigers and big cats, all right wingers are sex realists but not all sex realists are right wing. As evidenced by the Communist Party.