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Racism in uk

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Charltonstrek · 18/03/2026 10:30

Im finding the level of racism here in the UK to be very unsettling and it seems to be getting worse and im finding it depressing as I have a Muslim partner and I wonder if there is a future here for him. Ive mostly witnessed this on social media with some very derogatory comments anybody else or am I too sensitive

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Gloriia · 18/03/2026 17:02

nomas · 18/03/2026 17:00

Maybe they feel sorry for you having to shave your legs and get all those in grown hairs all over you.

What a very unpleasant thing to say. Are you suggesting we are all covered in ingrown hairs?

nomas · 18/03/2026 17:02

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Gloriia · 18/03/2026 17:01

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:59

Please stop trying to normalise the idea that all Indians and Pakistanis hate each other in the UK.

It's ridiculous and a total lie. It might suit you to believe it but it's bullshit.

I was stating my experience <and I mentioned Filipinos not Indians> that many, many other nationalities are far more intolerant and racist than the very inclusive Brits.

Why are you dismissing other people's lived experiences?

nomas · 18/03/2026 17:00

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/03/2026 16:59

Ive seen women in burkas swimming in swimming pools. Perhaps they prefer it but it does make me feel sorry for them personally.

Maybe they feel sorry for you having to shave your legs and get all those in grown hairs all over you.

Hereforthecommentz · 18/03/2026 16:59

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:53

I think you are being ignorant to what that poster is saying. It's really not normal for Indians in the UK to hate all Pakistanis or for Pakistanis to hate all Indians.

Anyone suggesting this is promoting hate and division.

I have no skin in the game, nor did the pp who said her Indian friends don't get along with them. It's just bloody obvious looking at the history why many Indians and Pakistanis don't get along. For some reason the other poster jumped on her for it.

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:59

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 16:56

Exactly!

Another example I worked in the ME and fillipinas could not stand other Asian nationalities going to extremes of leaving staff rooms when someone entered. Of course none of the apparently colonial loving Empire supporting Brits would have behaved like this as we are very tolerant, inclusive and nice.

If only others would follow our example.

Please stop trying to normalise the idea that all Indians and Pakistanis hate each other in the UK.

It's ridiculous and a total lie. It might suit you to believe it but it's bullshit.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/03/2026 16:59

PropertyD · 18/03/2026 13:46

100% agree. I have been many times to the Middle East where women are largely covered up. In 40 degree heat dressed in a burka which is heavy to walk around in. Never mind - the men think its marvelous!

Personally I dont like the burka. If its that women's free choice then maybe although I still dont think in the UK it should be allowed (lots of other countries ban it). It doesnt do anything for women and women's rights.

Ive seen women in burkas swimming in swimming pools. Perhaps they prefer it but it does make me feel sorry for them personally.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/03/2026 16:58

Firstbornunicorn · 18/03/2026 15:52

Just as it is not racist to criticise Israel. Nor would it be racist to criticise theological issues within Judaism, Christianity, or any other religion.

I think people tend to conflate "Muslim" with "middle Eastern" and base their criticism on that...which IS racist.

But its Jewish people that are suffering racism in this country. Not Israelis.

Gloriia · 18/03/2026 16:56

Hereforthecommentz · 18/03/2026 16:50

I think you are being rather ignorant. There's a long history of why Pakistanis and Indians don't get along.

Exactly!

Another example I worked in the ME and fillipinas could not stand other Asian nationalities going to extremes of leaving staff rooms when someone entered. Of course none of the apparently colonial loving Empire supporting Brits would have behaved like this as we are very tolerant, inclusive and nice.

If only others would follow our example.

PeppyBrickQuoter · 18/03/2026 16:55

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 13:20

If you live in a country and can’t speak the language, of course you’re going to struggle! Maybe everyone living in the UK should learn to speak English then this would help reduce those barriers. Surely this is the answer to this problem! If I moved to Spain o would expect to be disadvantaged if I didn’t speak Spanish

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That is about British born people who don’t have language barriers!!

Eskarina1 · 18/03/2026 16:54

Does it matter who is most likely to experience racism? It's not a race to the bottom. No amount of racism is acceptable.

I'd be shocked if many people- except Badenoch obviously- who are visibly not white hadn't experienced racism. I'm entirely white passing but still had the experience of all my classmates circling me in primary school and making fake native American war noises because they found out my mum was Indian.

One of the worst, most divisive new things is this Jewish vs Muslim / Jewish vs Black rubbish. Can we make it racists vs everyone else please? It's not acceptable to parrot conspiracy theories about Jewish or Muslim people. It's not acceptable to say, as Diane Abbot did, that Jewish people don't know what real racism is. It's not acceptable to downplay the epic racism that Muslim people face by saying Jewish people have it worse. Mosques and Synagogues have been attacked. It is all horrific.

MissyB1 · 18/03/2026 16:54

OP starts a thread about how an increase in racism is getting her down. and all the racists promptly turn up to make it quite clear that they are entirely justified in their racist views! They are loud and proud these days, depressing but sadly predictable, Op has been proven right. Mumsnet like a lot of other social media sites has also become more racist.

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:53

Hereforthecommentz · 18/03/2026 16:50

I think you are being rather ignorant. There's a long history of why Pakistanis and Indians don't get along.

I think you are being ignorant to what that poster is saying. It's really not normal for Indians in the UK to hate all Pakistanis or for Pakistanis to hate all Indians.

Anyone suggesting this is promoting hate and division.

Hereforthecommentz · 18/03/2026 16:50

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:42

Hang around here long enough and you'll soon see it.

Of course all racism is equally abhorrent, but not everyone seems to agree.

See upthread the comments from one poster who is proud that her Indian friends hate all Pakistanis.

I think you are being rather ignorant. There's a long history of why Pakistanis and Indians don't get along.

LassiKopiano24 · 18/03/2026 16:48

I can’t think of any non-english speaking country I have been to where the locals can’t speak a basic level of English, sure some migrants can’t speak the language, but I find “foreigners” are much more likely to speak English than we are their language.

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stargirl27 · 18/03/2026 16:48

Vivi0 · 18/03/2026 15:27

Lol - would anyone tell (or expect) Spaniards to integrate with ex pat British communities?

Someone upthread said that Brits in Spain who did not integrate or learn the language were despicable. Since no one appears to have taken issue with this, I assume that is also true of the communities in the UK who do not learn English or integrate.

I was being sarcastic re it being despicable for British immigrants in Spain not to learn Spanish. My point was if that is the standard for immigrants in Britain then it needs to be the same for immigrants from Britain.

Eskarina1 · 18/03/2026 16:47

Bringemout · 18/03/2026 11:48

Did you ever read that article, he was pointing out that in a free society he’s free to think burqas make women look like postboxes and they are free to wear whatever they like. It was a point about freedom of speech and freedom of expression?

But people are entitled to wear what they like (within certain reasonable limits, e.g. appropriate coverage and nothing that could cause harm) because it is their body and you can't say what you like about another person because a) manners and b) not causing harm

Poetnojo · 18/03/2026 16:47

Busybeemumm · 18/03/2026 12:26

These stats are based on people actually reporting them in the first place and so therefore not completely reliable.

People of Muslim faith are also more likely to experience social disadvantage in education and employment therefore may also be less likely to report racism due to language barriers and not knowing who/how to report.

Of course stats are based on what's reported, how else could we possibly gather said stats?
Are you suggesting muslims in the UK are more likely to be racially abused just because you say so? Without stats to back it up? You're also doing a disservice to the Muslim population by saying they can't speak English and are so ignorant that they can't find out the proper information regarding who to report to.

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:45

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 16:42

I’m sure they will be looking at what each party has to offer, and making their decision. They’re very intelligent people who run their own businesses so will undoubtedly be looking at this from many angles. So do you think Reform
will win, you seem very focused on them.

I think anyone who can hate an entire nation of people, as you said your friends do, isn't capable of being intelligent.

Reform may win, but it will be a disaster for this country.

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 16:44

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:42

Hang around here long enough and you'll soon see it.

Of course all racism is equally abhorrent, but not everyone seems to agree.

See upthread the comments from one poster who is proud that her Indian friends hate all Pakistanis.

That isn’t accurate at all - where do I say that? I’ve said they have certain views on Pakistan - I’ve never intimated my view on that. Please try and keep this accurate

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 16:42

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:39

You're lovely Pakistani-hating Indian friends shouldn't get too uncomfortable under Farage. Judging by the racist comments to Indians from Reform supporters, they are going to have a hard time of it if Reform come into power.

I’m sure they will be looking at what each party has to offer, and making their decision. They’re very intelligent people who run their own businesses so will undoubtedly be looking at this from many angles. So do you think Reform
will win, you seem very focused on them.

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:42

Firtreefiona · 18/03/2026 16:38

Really? That’s not something I’ve noticed. Most people in Britain think all racism is equally abhorrent. I’m sad for OP that her experiences have been otherwise.

Hang around here long enough and you'll soon see it.

Of course all racism is equally abhorrent, but not everyone seems to agree.

See upthread the comments from one poster who is proud that her Indian friends hate all Pakistanis.

Mixedmix · 18/03/2026 16:42

Happyjoe · 18/03/2026 15:13

The stats say now that racism, well, hate crime is on the rise, I guess some of that can be down to people reporting it more. However, it certainly rife on social media, we even see it here. It's disheartening that folk are going backwards. To me it reminds me of the 70's where it's overt.

Probably more report it nowadays.

nomas · 18/03/2026 16:40

Wellthisisdifficult · 18/03/2026 16:39

But it was never about islamaphobia- it was a post on racism generally the posters husband was used as an example. But the post talks about Racism being bad in the UK. If you want to discuss something narrower it needs to be a separate thread.

Except that within a few posts she was told anti-Semitism is worse than racism to Muslims. Hardly coming together to fight all intolerance is it?