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To think this was unfair, and to take time off for mental health.

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Dawnchorus1 · 18/03/2026 06:01

I work in the civil service, and after returning from mat leave was given the choice of returning to my current job full time or taking a demotion if I wanted to do 3 or 4 days.

I took the demotion. This was nearly 5 years ago. I've contributed fully and enthusiastically in my role and been successful in working on big projects and having my ideas taken forward consistently (we work in an environment where most projects have a few people creating initial ideas which the clients then chose from). This despite being managed by 'replacement', being a single parent to my son, having little family support and having lost my mum suddenly last year, and have been working very hard at keeping my shit together.

We've gone through a restructure recently which has been horrendous for most involved and taken it's toll (multiple applications to apply for our own jobs etc). I kept my job luckily. Then a position opened up for my previous role. My son being at school now I thought it would be a good time to get my career back on track - up my hours and resume previous role.

So put in application. Got interview. Knew others were going for it, but being the one who had actually done the job before thought I had more than a good chance of getting it.

Invites for interview were sent out on the Friday - which is non working day for me so I didn't see it until the Monday morning, meaning I Iost a weekend of prep time. Interviews scheduled for the following Monday, so only a week's notice for me. We had to prepare a presentation for the interview (with no time scheduled during work to do so). This also happened to be the week of my mum's 1 year anniversary of her sudden death, and the week in which we buried her ashes. I see a therapist and the week before this she said she thought I was depressed - because I said I was struggling to get out of bed and do basic things like the washing up and laundry.

I worked hard to prepare a presentation. Long story short I didn't get the job - despite being told I had done a really good presentation. Because I 'didn't have enough examples on the behaviour and strength questions'. Despite having worked with these people closely for 5-10 years. They know I can solve a problem, they've seen me do it every week. Yes I could have had better answers. But last week was the worst week for me to have to prepare for this. I put the time and effort I had in me getting my presentation in good shape.

I'm absolutely devastated. I feel like crap and need advice about what to do next. Think I'll need to take some time off for mental health reasons, how do I go about this? I feel so angry. I'm not sure if they were allowed to do what they did with demoting me when returning from mat leave.

OP posts:
Weeklyreport · 18/03/2026 07:12

I think you are angry and upset about the job rejection and this is clouding your judgement right now. You might also be a bit angry with yourself at how you approached this. Give it a week or 2 and see how you feel with some distance.

You have blamed your employer for a lot of things that were your choice. You chose not to look at your emails on your nwd despite knowing you could have an interview slot. You chose not to do any prep that weekend - you could have pulled together competency examples in anticipation. You have a day off in the week so have more non-work time to interview prep than the full-timers.

Im not saying all this to get at you but I hope you can reflect and see you did have agency here and nothing you have written suggests you were treated badly by your employer.

Lugol · 18/03/2026 07:12

These days if people don't get what they want they stamp their feet, sue their employer or go off on the sick.
No wonder the country is so fucked.

I'm sorry you didn't get the job OP. There will be better opportunities out there for you.

But this doesn't feel like you simply struggling with mental health, this feels like you wanting to teach your employer a lesson.

And they will just think they made the right choice.

hahabahbag · 18/03/2026 07:12

Taking time off for “mental health” in your case sort of proves their point, that you wouldn’t be able to cope with the more senior role currently. I’m wondering if the excuses you give here as to why it was a bad timing situation came across in the interview. But anyway a week is plenty of time to prep, the other person did a better presentation, sometimes we need to take it on the chin. I think you need to job hunt elsewhere

RedRock41 · 18/03/2026 07:12

FeyreArcheron · 18/03/2026 06:48

I am an employment lawyer

3 months minus a day from date of last act of discrimination but (very rare) under think (!) rule 5 time can be extended if not reasonably practicable or just & equitable to do so to extend time…doesn’t matter really as don’t think applies in OPs case, just not had a ☕️ yet…

Wildgoat · 18/03/2026 07:11

FasterMichelin · 18/03/2026 07:09

Unfortunately this is VERY common for women returning to work. The workplace is 100% discriminatory.

But she was not discriminated against, and it’s very wrong to suggest she was.

ChelseaBagger · 18/03/2026 07:10

"going off sick" isn't a difficult choice you have make - if you're too unwell to go to work then you can't go to work. If you're well enough to go on but you'd rather not, then I'm afraid you do have to go.

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 18/03/2026 07:09

Dawnchorus1 · 18/03/2026 07:05

I feel like if I had had more time I would have been able to get the presentation done and also had time to refresh my memory of the STAR stuff and prepare examples I guess.

This feels like a humiliation on top of the humiliation of the last five years being demoted to a more junior position and managed by my maternity cover.

Yes maybe legally they've done nothing wrong. But I do feel somewhat screwed over. The choice seems to be, don't have kids, have kids and go back to work full time, or have your career taken a massive nose dive.

But you have sat in a job for 5 years where you were demoted. You could have got another job with another company at the same level as your previous job. You made the choice not to. You want it on a plate, no mother gets it on a plate you’re going to have to put the effort in. I will say though STAR is shite. I’ve lost jobs on that basis too but that’s just the way it is.

FasterMichelin · 18/03/2026 07:09

Dawnchorus1 · 18/03/2026 07:05

I feel like if I had had more time I would have been able to get the presentation done and also had time to refresh my memory of the STAR stuff and prepare examples I guess.

This feels like a humiliation on top of the humiliation of the last five years being demoted to a more junior position and managed by my maternity cover.

Yes maybe legally they've done nothing wrong. But I do feel somewhat screwed over. The choice seems to be, don't have kids, have kids and go back to work full time, or have your career taken a massive nose dive.

Unfortunately this is VERY common for women returning to work. The workplace is 100% discriminatory.

Wildgoat · 18/03/2026 07:09

Dawnchorus1 · 18/03/2026 07:05

I feel like if I had had more time I would have been able to get the presentation done and also had time to refresh my memory of the STAR stuff and prepare examples I guess.

This feels like a humiliation on top of the humiliation of the last five years being demoted to a more junior position and managed by my maternity cover.

Yes maybe legally they've done nothing wrong. But I do feel somewhat screwed over. The choice seems to be, don't have kids, have kids and go back to work full time, or have your career taken a massive nose dive.

Cmon now, having a child is a choice, and millions of single mothers work full time. You chose the lower role. The more senior one couldn’t be done part time.

yes choosing a lower grade role part time will impact anyone who chooses that, male or female, for whatever reason, caring, health etc,

you made your choices, someone else is not to blame.

IwishIcouldconfess · 18/03/2026 07:07

Dawnchorus1 · 18/03/2026 07:05

I feel like if I had had more time I would have been able to get the presentation done and also had time to refresh my memory of the STAR stuff and prepare examples I guess.

This feels like a humiliation on top of the humiliation of the last five years being demoted to a more junior position and managed by my maternity cover.

Yes maybe legally they've done nothing wrong. But I do feel somewhat screwed over. The choice seems to be, don't have kids, have kids and go back to work full time, or have your career taken a massive nose dive.

But how much longer would you have wanted?

NetZeroZealot · 18/03/2026 07:07

I don’t work on Fridays either but I always take a quick look at my emails- in a professional environment surely most people do this? All the more so if I was anticipating an interview.

EverythingGolden · 18/03/2026 07:06

I’ve been in your situation before when I failed to get a job I should have been a shoo in for because I didn’t do a good interview. It was horrible at the time. For subsequent interviews I have rehearsed, rehearsed, rehearsed all the STAR examples. I’ve done lots of recruiting myself and it’s difficult not to give a job to someone who smashes the interview out of the park with clear answers and good examples. It feels personal to you at the moment but it probably isn’t if they have scoring matrix and take a strict approach to that.

If you need to be off you should go to your GP.

IwishIcouldconfess · 18/03/2026 07:06

Dawnchorus1 · 18/03/2026 06:49

I have been on the interview panel 3 times in my previous role at same place. I know what a scoring matrix is and looks like.

Then you know you clearly didn't hit the scores needed! Surely you know how it works?

Dawnchorus1 · 18/03/2026 07:05

I feel like if I had had more time I would have been able to get the presentation done and also had time to refresh my memory of the STAR stuff and prepare examples I guess.

This feels like a humiliation on top of the humiliation of the last five years being demoted to a more junior position and managed by my maternity cover.

Yes maybe legally they've done nothing wrong. But I do feel somewhat screwed over. The choice seems to be, don't have kids, have kids and go back to work full time, or have your career taken a massive nose dive.

OP posts:
Moonnstarz · 18/03/2026 07:05

Unfortunately I think you felt your experience and doing the job previously would swing things in your favour. Unfortunately as others have pointed out (and you say you are aware of) they have to be objective and do this based on the interview matrix and scoring system. If your score was lower than the successful candidate then that's how it is.

The only issue I see is that you were asked to take step down from the role 5 years ago, and this is where maybe you should have sought union advice over the legalities of this (and as others said contacted pregnant and then screwed) as this seems like the only dodgy thing that went on.

I think if you take time off now it will seem like sulking you didn't get the job, and depends how you want to come across.

Wildgoat · 18/03/2026 07:05

Rileysp · 18/03/2026 07:02

Agree with all of this.

i don’t think the OP sounds like they need the additional pressure of a new job at this moment

I think that’s a bit unfair, she’s just angry and embarassed, clearly wanting to go off sick, not preparing adequately and thinking you will get it as you did it six years ago, complaining you only had a week and needed the weekend too, doesn’t come across well, but sometimes people spiral, I assume she’d convinced herself she was getting it, and thays what’s led to the poor prep and the reaction now

Barrenfieldoffucks · 18/03/2026 07:05

StormySpanielz · 18/03/2026 06:29

Sounds absolutely valid to take time off for your mental health and I’m sorry you are struggling. But all of your anger at your job situation is misplaced and maybe you will be able to reflect on this when you are feeling better. Maybe consider medication as well as therapy if you are not doing so already.

Agreed.

Why would you expect time during the working day to prepare to interview for another job? Surely a week to prepare in your own time is totally standard?

sammylady37 · 18/03/2026 07:04

Dawnchorus1 · 18/03/2026 06:49

I have been on the interview panel 3 times in my previous role at same place. I know what a scoring matrix is and looks like.

And yet, you didn’t rehearse the STAR stuff, whatever that is.

C’mon now op, if you knew how interviews are conducted and scored, you should have prepped accordingly. This is on you, not anyone else.

RedRock41 · 18/03/2026 07:04

OP I’m sorry about the job. Respectfully it sounds like you thought the process was showjumping and that, all things considered you were the favourite.

By your own admission it was the interview questions that let you down. Unless you had pre-sight of them, it was a level playing field as everyone had 30 minutes to think on their feet.

Are you suggesting they should have had extra scores for did job previously?

If you genuinely feel the process was unfair, beyond it should have been you/I’ve a lot going on (as do most people unfortunately, life is hard and losing your Mum is tough) - then raise a grievance. Risk is you’ll look bitter and daft potentially.

All the reasons you cite for now taking sick leave begs the Q, that being the case, if your MH is so poor which sounds like it is, how would you have coped with FT more demanding role anyways given last time you did it you weren’t a Mum, and had your own?

It’s really tough, don’t mean to be harsh but look at it another way. If you are gracious in defeat, get your head down, wish the new candidate well and are breezy (feel what you feel but don’t let them see it)… well if she’s as bad as you say, it will only be a matter of time before it’s back up.

Civil Service also great for pension so don’t do anything too rash. Plus mind Mgt roles can be a total PIA. You can enjoy more stress free time with your son for a little longer.

Their loss for now…

IwishIcouldconfess · 18/03/2026 07:03

samspotato · 18/03/2026 06:57

Empathy bypass? Op is clearly struggling and you think it’s helpful to chip in with this snidey shit. How unpleasant.

Op I get why you’re annoyed. Cuts being made, managers receiving a promotion and getting cast aside for a job you’ve already done. It doesn’t exactly scream ‘great workplace morale’. People on MN are very literal - of course you weren’t entitled to get the job but you still are allowed to have certain feelings about the situation.

It sounds like you’ve had a really difficult time and emotions are probably coming to the fore more so now than when your mum initially passed. If you need time off I’d absolutely take it. Come back stronger, use the time to assess whether you want to stay there and just be kind to yourself.

They have literally shown they can replace you so don’t feel bad for prioritising yourself and your wellbeing.

Hardly snidey shit! Blunt maybe, but it is the truth.

The OP went for a job and didn't get it, doesn't matter what excuse she puts in the hat, it went to a someone else on the day.

Going off sick now will only demonstrate that they made the right decision!

Whatyoutalkingabouteh · 18/03/2026 07:03

They haven’t just ‘chosen’ who they like, as you said a few times, they held a fair and open recruitment process and the person with the best score got the job.
you might feel you are the best person- you might be who knows but as you said you didn’t do as well on the day. For them to just give you the job would be unfair.

Rileysp · 18/03/2026 07:02

TappyGilmore · 18/03/2026 06:58

It’s not unfair at all. It’s the way things go.

They are entitled to say that your previous role can’t be done part-time and that you have the option of working full-time, or taking a different role to get the hours that you want. (And actually that’s incredibly reasonable of them, they could have just said “no” to the reduction in hours request.)

Losing one weekend of preparation time shouldn’t have made a massive difference. You still had a whole week to prepare. As a single parent to a five year old, it would be surprising if you had a lot of time to prepare over a weekend, or if it would have been at most a few hours after they had gone to bed. And of course you would not have expected to use work time to prepare.

It is possible that you just didn’t answer the questions very well. As an interviewer, I have very often seen candidates who walk in so overly confident and not putting much effort in, because they have done the role before so think they are assured of getting it. Meanwhile someone who has never done the role will interview much better because they take it far more seriously, as they know nothing is assured. I wonder if that could be what happened in this case.

And actually, if you are genuinely depressed, it is probably for the best that you did not get the role. You would be better off getting yourself sorted out, and I’m sure that it would be easier while you are still working only part-time.

Agree with all of this.

i don’t think the OP sounds like they need the additional pressure of a new job at this moment

Bluegreenbird · 18/03/2026 07:02

So many unhappy people in the CS at the moment with all the restructuring and everyone lashing out because they think they are better than the people who get what they want out of the process.

OP you’ve now said yourself you weren’t happy with your interview answers. That’s all they can go on. It’s frustrating for everyone that when we recruit we’re not allowed to discuss the candidate’s overall prior performance with their current manager. But we can’t. Because it wouldn’t be objective.

Sounds like it’s time to break out of your comfort zone and look for a move - internal or external.

You are asking us to help you justify going off sick. From what you’ve said I think this would be a bad idea. You’ll stew and fret. If you want to get ahead you’ll need resilience and ways to cope with setbacks. Only you know if you can cope at the moment though.

IwishIcouldconfess · 18/03/2026 07:01

LarryStylinson · 18/03/2026 06:06

Im sorry its been so tough. Have a look at Pregnant then Screwed as I feel like there might be advice there

This was nearly 5 years ago

Come on - hardly pregnant then screwed! It was 6 years ago

Wildgoat · 18/03/2026 07:01

Dawnchorus1 · 18/03/2026 06:59

I disagree that this was a good way to find the best candidate. But that's the process they have. So yeh, I've fucked up.

To be fair if you got the job you’d probably think it was a good process, and fhey may feel they have the right person. To be honest, every interview process has ir pros and cons.

just lick your wounds, next time will be better.