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Should I ask my DS and his girlfriend for money

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DiaryofWimpy · 17/03/2026 19:43

My DS2 has moved his girlfriend in with her 2 cats.

Obviously it’s another person using the washing machine,,TV, gas and electricity they are both 22 and don’t work but get benefits.

Do you think I’m being unreasonable asking them for money?

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MissRaspberry · 19/03/2026 22:52

Bananaslushie · 19/03/2026 22:47

She can apply for housing benefit to live with you perhaps and pay you that

She can't add a housing element for paying board to her boyfriends mum. Housing element on UC is only paid if she has a proper tenancy agreement

XenoBitch · 19/03/2026 22:52

Yes, you should. 3 adults in one property... you get your rent paid that and will be the same regardless of who else lives there. So work out the proportion of what each person can pay towards to the rest of everything else. ADP/PIP should not count, as that is for the costs related to disability and not bills (unless the bills are extra due to extra washing of bedding etc).

I hope your DS has declared a change of circumstances to the DWP, as he is now living with his GF and that will affect his benefits.

Just be careful. It will be good to know what their long term plans are. I had a friend whose son (who was on UC... he is unfit to work) moved his street homeless ex in. She refuses to engage with the Job Centre so pays nothing towards bills etc. My friend is a pensioner and had had to get a job to afford everything. This started a few years ago and nothing has changed.

I have read the thread, and can't believe some of the shite on here. I know a few people with bipolar. The ones that do work are very much valued and their employer has bent over backwards to keep them happy, healthy, and employed.
If you are in a NMW job, you are just a number and they don't care.
You have bipolar, and your DS is at an age where if he has inherited it, it might start showing. Anxiety could be the start, and I assume you know that it can take years to get a proper diagnosis.

MissRaspberry · 19/03/2026 22:51

MyLimePoet · 19/03/2026 21:39

No one said they wouldn't be paying a contribution to bills either

To be fair the OP already stated in a reply when she broached the subject of paying to live there they initially responded negatively about it and showed a reluctance to pay anything. They told her she has money as she's just had a new mobile phone. So clearly they initially wanted to move in and not pay anything

Pickledonion1999 · 19/03/2026 22:50

Bananaslushie · 19/03/2026 22:47

She can apply for housing benefit to live with you perhaps and pay you that

It is Universal credit and no she can't claim when she is a lodger in someone's home.

Bananaslushie · 19/03/2026 22:47

She can apply for housing benefit to live with you perhaps and pay you that

MissRaspberry · 19/03/2026 22:44

Absolutely make them both contribute fairly. As you're in receipt of benefits it's going to be lowered when they both change their address to your home address on their claims. As they're both over 21 you'll get two non dependent deductions on your benefits so you'll lose a significant amount of your own benefits purely for allowing them to live under your roof. They sound quite entitled from what I saw of your reply regarding them sulking over you asking them to pay to live in your home. Plus your council tax bill will go up as you'll lose your single adult discount too. Is his relationship quite new as it sounds like she's moved with him after recently leaving a previous abusive relationship, she's probably using him hoping for a free place to stay

MyLimePoet · 19/03/2026 22:30

Lightuptheroom · 19/03/2026 22:18

@MyLimePoet thanks for clarifying the housing element, it's been a long time since I had anything to do with that part of the benefits system.
£320 a month obviously should cover something (the op has said her son has offered £50 a week) as op has said she claims ADP rather than PIP I'm assuming she's in Scotland so not sure how much her son can claim.

Yeah she is in Scotland. She's not clarified what benefit her son is on (her business really). Just that he gets more than the gf

Lightuptheroom · 19/03/2026 22:18

@MyLimePoet thanks for clarifying the housing element, it's been a long time since I had anything to do with that part of the benefits system.
£320 a month obviously should cover something (the op has said her son has offered £50 a week) as op has said she claims ADP rather than PIP I'm assuming she's in Scotland so not sure how much her son can claim.

MyLimePoet · 19/03/2026 22:11

Lightuptheroom · 19/03/2026 21:51

Yes, you should charge them rent. If she's not related to you, then she should be able to claim the housing allowance part of universal credit at the single room rate.
They need to be honest about what benefits/money they have coming in, not decide what amounts they wish to give you. As an example, my step son was in the limited capability to look for work or work related activity, which meant he received a higher amount of universal credit (standard rate for your son and his girlfriend is around £325 each I think) so obviously what they are receiving has a bearing on what they can pay. If they're not paying any other bills then £80 a week between them doesn't really cover anything, you need to list all the household bills and they should be looking at making they'd contribution as near to half as they can get it (again with the caveat that they can't pay what they don't have)

No she can't. The dwp won't allow two sets of rent element to be paid for one house - that's benefits fraud. How does 320 pounds a month not cover anything? The OP has presumably not been charging her son anything until now. Of course 320 pounds a month covers something

Moskova · 19/03/2026 22:09

Children under 18 you get child benefits for. OPs son should be a contributor.

MyLimePoet · 19/03/2026 22:08

LivingMyLifeWithKindness · 19/03/2026 21:49

Honestly I don’t think you’re charging enough. You have 2 adults living with you and in your home all day long paying less than £100 each week. They should be paying 25-30% of their income on rent and then split the utilities (water gas electric WiFi tv) 3 ways.

The son has been living there for a long time rent free by the sounds of it. The OP has another child - should they be paying too?

WiFi costs no more no matter how many people live there. Tv license same.

Lightuptheroom · 19/03/2026 21:51

Yes, you should charge them rent. If she's not related to you, then she should be able to claim the housing allowance part of universal credit at the single room rate.
They need to be honest about what benefits/money they have coming in, not decide what amounts they wish to give you. As an example, my step son was in the limited capability to look for work or work related activity, which meant he received a higher amount of universal credit (standard rate for your son and his girlfriend is around £325 each I think) so obviously what they are receiving has a bearing on what they can pay. If they're not paying any other bills then £80 a week between them doesn't really cover anything, you need to list all the household bills and they should be looking at making they'd contribution as near to half as they can get it (again with the caveat that they can't pay what they don't have)

LivingMyLifeWithKindness · 19/03/2026 21:49

Honestly I don’t think you’re charging enough. You have 2 adults living with you and in your home all day long paying less than £100 each week. They should be paying 25-30% of their income on rent and then split the utilities (water gas electric WiFi tv) 3 ways.

MyLimePoet · 19/03/2026 21:39

No one said they wouldn't be paying a contribution to bills either

MyLimePoet · 19/03/2026 21:38

LouiseK93 · 19/03/2026 21:26

Oh I see. They are paying now but weren't before, which was the point of the post. They are lucky £80 a week is very cheap accommodation with no bills.

They are on benefits. They don't have a lot of money

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LouiseK93 · 19/03/2026 21:26

Oh I see. They are paying now but weren't before, which was the point of the post. They are lucky £80 a week is very cheap accommodation with no bills.

MyLimePoet · 19/03/2026 21:23

LouiseK93 · 19/03/2026 21:09

The word 'apparently' tells me anxiety is a load of crap.

She wasnt too anxious moving into your home with two cats and the nerve to not even pay!

They're lazy and you know it.

They are paying. Read the full thread

LouiseK93 · 19/03/2026 21:11

Where is arguing a stranger getting you? Ignore and move on.

LouiseK93 · 19/03/2026 21:09

The word 'apparently' tells me anxiety is a load of crap.

She wasnt too anxious moving into your home with two cats and the nerve to not even pay!

They're lazy and you know it.

MyLimePoet · 19/03/2026 20:58

Happinessistheanswer · 19/03/2026 20:55

I said "written an essay, which was quite amusing".

Nothing insulting about that, You need to take a deep breath and calm down. Or write another essay.

Did anyone ask why you posted in the early hours. NO. I thought you were on another time zone. Posters have said you have been busy posting. Nothing wrong with that, in fact since 18.45 today you have posted 18 times on this thread. I would say it is factually correct you post often.

I'll say this one more time.
You don't tell me what I do or don't do online. Ok?

Happinessistheanswer · 19/03/2026 20:55

MyLimePoet · 19/03/2026 20:35

Why don't you just go away. Like I repeat. Just go away - shame I didn't put it into action. Sorry that I'm suffering from crippling insomnia that has me sleeping an hour a night despite being on medication. You know nothing about me. You are just a bully. You've been awful to lots of people on here. Not just me.

Keep your nose out.

I said "written an essay, which was quite amusing".

Nothing insulting about that, You need to take a deep breath and calm down. Or write another essay.

Did anyone ask why you posted in the early hours. NO. I thought you were on another time zone. Posters have said you have been busy posting. Nothing wrong with that, in fact since 18.45 today you have posted 18 times on this thread. I would say it is factually correct you post often.

everybodyscreeaamm · 19/03/2026 20:52

DiaryofWimpy · 17/03/2026 19:47

They apparently have anxiety so can’t work.

He asked if she could bring her cat, she brought 2.

Yes I could do need the money.

BEnefits system is an utter joke if two otherwise fit 22 year olds don't have to work because they have 'anxiety'. I'm sorry, but that's beyond ridiculous, the sheer number of young people claiming they're too anxious to work and pay their own way.

MyLimePoet · 19/03/2026 20:50

FasterMichelin · 19/03/2026 20:45

Then don’t say anything else. This isn’t your thread. You don’t get to decide what people post nor are you compelled to respond to people then tell them off for responding back!

Put the phone down and go watch a film, or take a walk, or write. Internet forums or the internet in general is probably not the best if you’re not feeling good.

No. YOU don't say anything else. You started this and made it personal. You don't get nasty and personal with me and then invite other people to laugh at me and then try and tell me what to do. Why don't you log off.

Don't try and gaslight me when you started this. Don't patronise me either and tell me what I need to be doing with my time just because you're attacking the OP and you've been challenged on it. HTH

MyLimePoet · 19/03/2026 20:46

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I posted at 1.49am this morning because I suffer from insomnia. It started when my uncle killed himself three decades ago and it got much worse after I was stalked and had a breakdown. Despite being on sleeping pills for the last two months nothing is making it better. That's why I post at unsocial hours. I would rather be asleep

You actually have the nerve to be sitting laughing at me on here? Wow!