Should I ask my DS and his girlfriend for money

As you've mentioned ADP I'm assuming you are in Scotland, and you mentioned ESA. If you are claiming any means tested benefits remember you need to advise Social Security Scotland that you now have 2 non dependent adults in your home. Some of your means tested (if applicable and won't affect ADP or NSESA) will be affected. If you have a severe disability premium attached to any of your benefits this may also be affected. Any non dependent deduction made from you is in the expectation that they will be paying their way. I am a welfare benefits specialist in England with full training in the Scottish systems also. I have rarely seen a situation such as yours end well when it comes to adults moving in on this basis- genuinely you are, if not from a benefits entitlement perspective, at the very least being taken huge advantage of and will continue to be so. Two people of 22 with anxiety as the only diagnosis should not be settling down to a benefits only existence with zero accountability, not even running a home or budget of their own but riding on the back of yours. This is a recipe for disaster.

I wish we could have a government with the backbone to tackle this but it is just getting worse. The people getting shafted are the workers. Ironic given that Labour are supposed to look after working people. Less and less people working, while the middle earners tax just keeps going up. Hack welfare and bring taxes down. Otherwise the whole system will collapse.

Within the next few years the welfare system collapses or the next government introduces very tight controls and reductions.

Either way there will be substantial changes.

I have bipolar 1 and GAD, I work a 40 hour week and 50% of the month I work away from home so live out of hotels. I was honest with my manger before I signed my contract, have been honest with my team and am honest with my wider coworkers. Having both doesn't mean it's impossible to work so don't write yourself off!

I find the routine of work and keeping the same sleep pattern helps me massively to remain stable. I take antipsychotics, mood stabiliser and anxiety meds. In total I take 25 tablets a day in order to lead a normal life,

If you are a law abiding, hard working infertile person you count for nothing. If you are an alcoholic, drug addict or never worked or pop out kids with different fathers indiscriminately the government loves you.

Loads of people are on more on benefits than those working full time. There should be a huge difference between lifestyle working compared to not working. Otherwise, why bother. Oh wait, they don't!

We can't afford to keep giving everyone who asks for it free money for life. We just can't. The threshold for getting benefits has to go up hugely AND anyone getting benefits should be working in some way, in any way. Picking up litter, filling pot holes, answering the phone, working in old peoples homes. Anything.

The country is on it's knees and we cannot keep doing this.

I have never watched them. I'm on ADP which is the Scottish equivalent and I answered the questions without any support. I was turned down several times for lcwra - even with support from welfare rights. I wouldn't go through the process again. It was very challenging - and I was suffering from more than anxiety at that point

The OP has bipolar. That's a bit more than just anxiety to be fair.

Of course there are always going to be people that milk the system. But it's not an easy process to go through - lots of people who are in genuine need are turned down

I would be telling her to sling her hook and if he doesn't like it he can go too. You are being taken for a ride. Either they pay or go. You are not running a hotel.

When I was 19 and moved into my boyfriends parents house while I saved for a place of our own I paid rent. I was in between jobs (agency work) and still did it. If my kids moved any of their partners in I would expect the same. It's not just about what they use but the principle of paying bills, it's an essential part of life. The sooner they get into the habit of doing it the better. If you don't need the money then set aside to help them save. I had anxiety and depression at that age, mental illness is no joke but neither is responsibility.

Do you mean at tribunal or at mandatory reconsideration. What I was trying to say is that a lot of claimants give up when they are turned down at the MR stage particularly as it can take time for a tribunal to be heard

My Lime - genuine question. What you think about You Tube videos and such like to help you answer questions for say PIP.

The number of our young people under the age of 25 who arent in work or education is nearly 1 million! I feel its an attitude and if you have family members who are on benefits and claiming whatever they can you will learn from them and they will teach you.

In this thread there are effectively three people living on benefits - there is a pattern here. Mum is anxious - so is son, so is girlfriend = benefits.

I’m talking from experience, her main post never said they were giving monies and forgive me for not watching every comment posted since. It’s funny how they soon find work when having to fund themselves.

The team I used to work on did 50-100 benefit appeals a year, the majority for PIP but also many for the limited capability for work element of UC (and its ESA equivalent pre-UC).

In the 10 years that the project has been running, every one of those appeals has succeeded.

In 25 years of welfare rights work, I never lost an appeal. That just shouldn't be possible.

I do agree with this

if there wasn’t uc im sure they would manage to find some kind of job - as no choice

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Good for her.

See with all due respect. If someone has been assessed as being unfit for work by the dwp. Telling them to go out and flip burgers really isn't helpful. It is hard enough to be disabled - particularly if you look well and you get the there's nothing really wrong with you comments - which seems to be running through this entire thread. That people with MH issues are liars and scroungers and all they need is a job to fix them

And herein lies the problem in the UK currently. A whole new generation of people are being raised who think it’s entirely normal to live on benefits if you get a bit anxious.

Actually no. I don't agree with benefits fraud. I just don't agree that disability benefits are easy to get. Some people who say they are haven't been through the process themselves

Regardless of whether you need the money or they need it more, it's a good practice to help young people understand the running costs of a household. The request for contribution does not have to be aggressive nor the amount necessary exact or punitive -- but the practice of "joining in" is a good habit to help young people to cultivate, I feel.

Who cares, they should get a job. Stack shelves, cook burgers, pick up litter.

Things are not free.

Being 22 and on benefits for anxiety is a conveyor belt to staying on them permanently.

Some on this thread will excuse this time and time again. Maybe they were getting some fresh air or going out to get medication? I often think that the people who dont want benefits to have a complete overhaul are people who are actually swinging the lead.

Labour tried to get some sensible changes to benefits. Howls of protest. How dare they?

Its rather like a discussion about the NHS and looking at a co payment system which works perfectly well in other EU countries. Screams from some who claim some people cannot even afford 30p for a box of paracetamol. That certainly isnt a reason to keep a broken system in place. Besides my friends Mother still gets paracetamol through a prescription. She was never asked to buy it herself and she said she feels she is owed it as a tax payer previously (she was a dinner lady)

Their UC won't cover rent because they don't have a tenancy

He's on other benefits. The OP said in previous posts