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Should I ask my DS and his girlfriend for money

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DiaryofWimpy · 17/03/2026 19:43

My DS2 has moved his girlfriend in with her 2 cats.

Obviously it’s another person using the washing machine,,TV, gas and electricity they are both 22 and don’t work but get benefits.

Do you think I’m being unreasonable asking them for money?

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MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 16:19

Happinessistheanswer · 18/03/2026 16:17

There has always been unemployment, there has always been the poor. Why do those in 2026 think they are any different?

This used to be all the encouragement that was needed for someone to work hard at whatever job was available, yes benefit claimants should give back to their community by performing tasks. Before anyone asks carers are already giving back. What is stopping the NEET gamers from contributing?

What do you mean performing tasks?

Happinessistheanswer · 18/03/2026 16:17

MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 15:53

There aren't enough jobs for everyone as it is. If there were there would never be any unemployment.

There has always been unemployment, there has always been the poor. Why do those in 2026 think they are any different?

This used to be all the encouragement that was needed for someone to work hard at whatever job was available, yes benefit claimants should give back to their community by performing tasks. Before anyone asks carers are already giving back. What is stopping the NEET gamers from contributing?

UNDERCOVERELEPHANTINTHEROOM · 18/03/2026 16:15

I expect I'll get shot down in flames for saying this, but I have lived with anxiety all of my life. I am AuDHD and the one thing I find has the biggest impact on managing my anxiety is not medication, it is what I eat and drink.
When I avoid processed foods, seed oils, refined wheat products, fizzy drinks and basically eat what I call real food, my anxiety becomes a whisper.
I often wonder how people who are totally debilitated by anxiety are living day to day.

MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 16:07

PropertyD · 18/03/2026 16:03

Sorry, you do have a choice, stay on benefits and be given something to do or go and find your own role. What shouldnt be a choice is what the OP's family are doing.

I used to be a supplier to central government. The DWP who were one of my biggest clients - quite frankly I wouldnt trust them to cut my toenails. They also wont overule a GP who has written a sick note. Will create even more work for them.

As a supplier I worked with them for nearly 3 years. Honestly the waste, the lack of accountability. They didnt want to pull anyone up on anything suspicious unless it was blooming obvious something was wrong. It wasnt their money so why put your head above the line?

They overruled my GP three times. I applied for lcwra three times and I didn't get it. I had ptsd on my fit note. I was suffering from anxiety and depression. I was on medication. I had been referred to a psychologist - and I scored zero points each time.

The dwp absolutely do overrule peoples GPs. They have the final say.

PrettyPickle · 18/03/2026 16:04

You need a conversation with your son, it was not his decision to make and you need to set boundaries.

Parents can chose to subsidise their children, not strangers and their pets. If you are OK for her to stay, in that money is the only issue, charge her rent and if you are not happy with the cat, tell her no pets.

If she doesn't like it then she can leave. Sounds simple but the reality is often a lot more complicated.

PropertyD · 18/03/2026 16:03

Sorry, you do have a choice, stay on benefits and be given something to do or go and find your own role. What shouldnt be a choice is what the OP's family are doing.

I used to be a supplier to central government. The DWP who were one of my biggest clients - quite frankly I wouldnt trust them to cut my toenails. They also wont overule a GP who has written a sick note. Will create even more work for them.

As a supplier I worked with them for nearly 3 years. Honestly the waste, the lack of accountability. They didnt want to pull anyone up on anything suspicious unless it was blooming obvious something was wrong. It wasnt their money so why put your head above the line?

MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 16:01

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/03/2026 15:58

Oh no I thought it through.

It's a choice, they either work, or not get any benefits. That's the whole thing end to end.

If you can work you must work.

And there are more than enough things that need doing - and so there are enough jobs

Pot holes
Rubbish clearance
Park maintenance
Visiting old people
Cleaning public toilets
literally anything that needs doing but nobody will pay for

Jobs give people purpose, direction a sense of accomplishment, a reason for existing

Giving people money to do nothing even though they can work (and as I said, plenty of people cannot for many very good reasons) does not help then, it institutionalises them

Some of those jobs are jobs that councils have budgets to do. No one would be allowed to fill a pot hole in that wasn't employed by the council and wasn't trained to do it

Well seeing that you think the unemployed should do the jobs that no one else does or wants to do. That's quite telling

You also would not just be able to randomly visit an old person - there are safeguarding issues

Itiswhysofew · 18/03/2026 15:59

Tell her she is a short term guest and she doesn't have free rein to do as she likes in your home.

How does she afford 2 cats?

You're a saint for allowing it under those circumstances.

Yardbrushes · 18/03/2026 15:59

I would be very concerned that you have allowed a complete cheeky fxxker move into your house.
She soumds like an absolute madam.
Be very very careful you and your son are not being used for housing.
I would tell her that she needs to mind her mouth and manners or find somewhere else to live.
Do not allow them to make you feel outnumbered in YOUR home.
Tell them you will be making a list of house rules that you expect to be followed.....or they know where the door is.
We teach people how to treat us, remember that.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/03/2026 15:58

MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 15:55

It's slave labour - and who pays their travel? Where I live it costs 80 pounds plus a month for travel. Some areas will be lower but that's how it is in mine. And please remember that some of the people on 400 pounds a month will be running a home on that. So who pays for them to get to the work house?

People lived in workhouses.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/03/2026 15:58

usedtobeaylis · 18/03/2026 15:57

Even less jobs if you're exploiting people on benefits to do the job of the cleansing department at half the cost of an employee. It doesn't seem to occur to these Very Clever People that dealing with litter and waste is an actual job that people are already paid for.

They don't do a very good job of it do they?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/03/2026 15:58

usedtobeaylis · 18/03/2026 15:53

People don't think this shit through, they think they're geniuses.

Oh no I thought it through.

It's a choice, they either work, or not get any benefits. That's the whole thing end to end.

If you can work you must work.

And there are more than enough things that need doing - and so there are enough jobs

Pot holes
Rubbish clearance
Park maintenance
Visiting old people
Cleaning public toilets
literally anything that needs doing but nobody will pay for

Jobs give people purpose, direction a sense of accomplishment, a reason for existing

Giving people money to do nothing even though they can work (and as I said, plenty of people cannot for many very good reasons) does not help then, it institutionalises them

usedtobeaylis · 18/03/2026 15:57

MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 15:53

There aren't enough jobs for everyone as it is. If there were there would never be any unemployment.

Even less jobs if you're exploiting people on benefits to do the job of the cleansing department at half the cost of an employee. It doesn't seem to occur to these Very Clever People that dealing with litter and waste is an actual job that people are already paid for.

MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 15:56

Blondeshavemorefun · 18/03/2026 15:54

I think it depends on Area

my ex go lcwra without any proper assessment

he just wrote what was wrong and he got it 2mths later. Been on it for nearly 2years and no assessment review

The reviews have been paused except for new claimants due to backlogs

MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 15:55

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/03/2026 15:52

It's not for nothing - they get their benefits

It's slave labour - and who pays their travel? Where I live it costs 80 pounds plus a month for travel. Some areas will be lower but that's how it is in mine. And please remember that some of the people on 400 pounds a month will be running a home on that. So who pays for them to get to the work house?

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Blondeshavemorefun · 18/03/2026 15:54

MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 14:49

That's not what you said in the previous post - it's also not true. People do not get money thrown at them by the dwp to get them to go away. It's complete misinformation

It might suit your line of argument but it's not true. To get PIP ADP or lcwra you have to go through an assessment process. It's the same process for everyone

Someone with a low IQ would be at a disadvantage as has already been said because the system is hard enough to navigate as it is.

I think it depends on Area

my ex go lcwra without any proper assessment

he just wrote what was wrong and he got it 2mths later. Been on it for nearly 2years and no assessment review

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/03/2026 15:53

usedtobeaylis · 18/03/2026 15:51

A relative of mine has bipolar and worked all his life - until he couldn't. It's not the same for everyone, and it's not the same at every stage in a person's life, and that should be a given at this point. She didn't choose to have it and she didn't choose for her son to have anxiety. Just leave people the fuck alone.

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But they aren't leaving me alone are they? I have to work all the time, in order to feed the welfare state? I don't feel very left alone TBH

MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 15:53

There aren't enough jobs for everyone as it is. If there were there would never be any unemployment.

usedtobeaylis · 18/03/2026 15:53

MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 15:41

Right. So you want people on benefits to go out and work a 35 hour week for just over three quid an hour? Would you work for that?

People don't think this shit through, they think they're geniuses.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/03/2026 15:52

MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 15:51

You aren't answering my question. You've proposed a scheme that's not workable and you've just said that you pay high rate tax. But you want people who get 316 pounds a month to pick up litter. For nothing

You obviously don't know what work houses were like. If you think it's appropriate to put unemployed people in them just because they are out of work.

It's not for nothing - they get their benefits

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/03/2026 15:52

TeenToTwenties · 18/03/2026 15:50

What there maybe should be is incentives for employers to take on long term unemployed people on trial 3 months, with no penalty to employer or unemployed person if it doesn't work out.

Yes there should like this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9qdpzqnl2o

Young woman working on a machine in an industrial setting

Companies offered £3,000 to hire unemployed under-24s

It comes as ministers grapple with spiralling unemployment rates among young people.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9qdpzqnl2o

usedtobeaylis · 18/03/2026 15:51

A relative of mine has bipolar and worked all his life - until he couldn't. It's not the same for everyone, and it's not the same at every stage in a person's life, and that should be a given at this point. She didn't choose to have it and she didn't choose for her son to have anxiety. Just leave people the fuck alone.

MyLimePoet · 18/03/2026 15:51

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/03/2026 15:49

I don't care. No work, no benefits. If you can work you will work. I am quite comfortable with work houses frankly, it's certainly better than the trajectory we are on which is pitiful.

You aren't answering my question. You've proposed a scheme that's not workable and you've just said that you pay high rate tax. But you want people who get 316 pounds a month to pick up litter. For nothing

You obviously don't know what work houses were like. If you think it's appropriate to put unemployed people in them just because they are out of work.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 18/03/2026 15:51

TeenToTwenties · 18/03/2026 15:48

The thing is @SingleSexSpacesInSchools that working has costs, and benefits don't cover those extra costs.
Obvious costs are transport, clothes presentable enough for work, and possibly childcare.
Saying someone on benefits has to work for them just doesn't work.

There will also be many people who can do limited work but who can't find a job that fits their profile. For example people with neurological illnesses that come and go. They may well be able to work say 15hrs a week, but would need to do the work as and when they are well enough. That doesn't fit many employers, and the individual skillsets come into play too. Fine if you have good ability at admin skills, maybe you can do bookkeeping or some such from home, but someone who could be excellent at answering customer calls has to work when the employer wants, not just random hours.

Life is not free. It's just not.

If you CAN work - something I have been saying all this time - and you want benefits - you MUST work.

I know plenty of people have reasons for not being able to work at all, real illnesses, real disabilities. I 100% support those people.

I 0% support two people aged 22 on benefits for being anxious. No.

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