Should I ask my DS and his girlfriend for money

There absolutely were people on long term sick 20 years ago. And it was easier then to be on sickness benefits long term than it is now. All people had to do was hand in fit notes and they would be put on sickness benefits indefinitely. It's not like that now. The dwp can overrule a GP. It's harder to claim. Please - if you are going to slate people who have mental health and who are on benefits get your facts right

If I hadn't been able to claim benefits three years ago when I had my breakdown I would have been homeless. But you just keep shouting no one should get benefits

They are because they are poor. That's the way it works -not because of your beliefs. Hth

No one is ‘entitled’ to benefits for no good reason. These 2 young people haven’t paid a penny into the tax & NI coffers, yet think they are entitled to benefits from the public purse? Absolutely fk that! I don’t think ANYONE should qualify for benefits unless they have contributed a certain amount to the public purse.

20 years ago we didn’t have hundreds of thousands of shirkers on benefits for
‘anxiety’. I will vote for any party that promises to crack down on scroungers. This is a big part of why this country is going to shit.

They are going to pay. The OP updated the thread

Are they looking for work. Yes they should be paying especially as they are on benefits. State money is supposed to be a stop gap until you work

My lwcra is stopping in 8 weeks. I was given an end date when I was awarded it.

They moved in together this week

I am not a dwp worker. I have already said to you that the reason that some assessments have been stopped is due to a backlog. They are supposed to be starting some time this year - you are completely wrong as I have already explained. New claimants will be assessed. It's only people who claimed before a certain date that aren't being assessed just now

You disagreed with my post at 18.02. At 18.09 you are reprimanding me for not responding. Am I allowed a cup of tea?

Benefit claimants have increased to an out of control level. Why?

The outcome;'
A a % are swinging the lead. This harms the genuine cases. If nothing is done there will be NO benefits.

B the system is re established as a functional fit for purpose system. Tighter controls and procedures.

Which do you choose?

But that’s not the thread

I said earlier and someone else did as as well. That now they are a couple living together they should be on a joint claim so will be less money between them

For how long tho ?

in general

not just my ex but means anyone who applies will imm get it regardless

the country can’t go on forever giving everyone extra money

I had a nervous breakdown in 2023. I was assessed and told I was fit to work. I'm still unwell but I will be told very shortly again that there's nothing wrong with me and that I'm fit to work.
I won't put myself through that process again.

The dwp told me I was fit to work with anxiety depression and broken bones and I only got lcwra at tribunal on the third attempt.

Anyway people can think what they like. Maybe it's time to be a bit kinder to people and not assume everyone on UC is on the beg

I have no idea when your ex claimed or how long the award was for. As I said. The assessments have been put on hold due to a backlog

This . They are only 22 and need to be working . If they don’t start adulting they’ll be with you forever . How did we ever come to this .

He was a new claimant

so for almost 2yrs he has lwcra without anyone assessing him

I've also noticed how you haven't responded to me, because you can't think how to. Perhaps you have a "thus" comment for me though in your incredibly intelligent repertoire? Us working wives of disabled veterans are a lot more seasoned than the likes of you.

With respect I don't think anyone should have to justify their position full stop. The OP has said her son is on disability benefits - yet he's been called all the wasters and the scroungers on here - do you know what it's like to be called a scrounger because you are on disability benefits. I do.

People are entitled to benefits for their kids if they are on benefits. There are people on high incomes who claim child benefits.

People end up on benefits for all sorts of reasons. And there are people on UC including people who are disabled and parents who work.

You think it's just a little more. People on UC get 316 pounds a month or 400 pounds a month depending on age.

I honestly give up. Apparently I'm a genuine claimant. That's odd because earlier on I was told I wasn't.

And I am also sick of kids being used to justify this argument. Some women don't want kids. Some women can't have them. Not everyone on UC with or without kids is a scrounger and once more - if there were no safety net - it would cost the taxpayer more as people would end up homeless

Do people actually know the amount of people who live below the poverty line in the UK both in and out of work?

I knew you'd come out with this 'genuine claimants' tripe eventually. You've spent all this time lumping all benefit claimants together and now attempting some truly embarrassing backpedalling. You are judgmental, ill informed and unbelievably supercilious.

Christ, what a mess.

Quite. No one is saying no benefits for anyone. What has happened though is people are choosing to live on benefits/ with their Mum and then pay nothing or very little and use the rest of the benefits as their own pocket money.

They turn their nose up at jobs - why work for just a little more than they get from sitting at home on their bums. Why not have a child - not planned of course and then scam the system even more.

At 22 they have the rest of their lives in front of them. Benefits arent meant to give you a luxury life and so they shouldnt but if you have no ambition and see a parent claiming why wouldnt you try it. After all - you have nothing to lose.

Well minimum wage has lead to employers not hiring young people…

but no I’d boost the wages they get, in exchange for doing some work and the alternative being no money at all.

it would have to be below minimum wage in order to encourage people to get off and get a actual job.

There is a world of difference between genu8ne claimants (such as yourself) and those who swing the lead. The latter is rising hence why there is a massive problem.

You appear to be defending the latter. This is not helping your case. Why not campaign for tighter controls you would still be looked after.

I live in council housing. I did own my last home but it was demolished by the council (who I bought it from) as were all the homes in that area. They were of a very low value so I didn't have enough money to buy a new one (not a complaint - just the reality of the situation). The council rehomed everyone as they made us homeless.

I have to claim UC to get my rent paid or I would be homeless again

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If they're doing paid work, they should be paid national minimum wage. Legally, they'd have to be. So then they wouldn't actually be benefits claimants at all.