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Aislyn · 17/03/2026 16:46

My eldest is at secondary school and has suffered horrific racist bullying due to being identifiably Jewish. She never told anyone, but they guessed due to her appearance, and her saying Eastern European countries when asked 'where are you from?'

Unfortunately the school has been completely unhelpful, and refused to tackle this.

My second child is starting at second and has sen. They are at even higher risk of bullying. They have an appearance that would mean that they could be identified as Jewish, especially when citing Eastern European countries in response to the above question. Can anyone think of a cover story for my child?

(Yes, I have tried to get them a place at a Jewish school, but there is none available)

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nomas · 18/03/2026 13:01

EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 13:00

Can you stick to what the op is asking? This is about her dc

Why do you never tell the people posting to me to stick to the topic?

Why do you only have a go at me when I respond to people posting to me?

ParmaVioletTea · 18/03/2026 13:00

Needspaceforlego · 18/03/2026 12:46

Do you really think kids would know a Jewish surname from any other Eastern European surname?

They may do if they've been brought up in a household where anti-Semitic views are casually expressed. And believe me, this happens, particularly with people who were raised educated in countries in the ME where Israel is not recognised as a nation (eg Saudi Arabia) or where the government's stated policy is to wipe the nation of Israel off the face of the earth (eg Iraq and Iraq's proxies such as Hamas and Hezbollah).

If children have been raised in an Islamicist fundamentalist household, they may have been exposed to, and be repeating standard anti-Semitic jibes.

EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 13:00

nomas · 18/03/2026 12:48

No, I don’t want to derail but I’m also not going to leave people a clear field for Islamophobia to run unchecked.

The poster you aligned yourself with does support Farage and Reform, which I found strange, given Farage’s views on Jewish people.

Can you stick to what the op is asking? This is about her dc

Needspaceforlego · 18/03/2026 13:00

Givenup2026 · 18/03/2026 12:50

depending on their age, I think that’s more of a giveaway.

especially something like Shapiro / Cohen (or anything ending in “stein” and or “man”).

I wouldn't think anything of the other names, they just sound like foreign names.

Stein makes me think Jock Stein Scotland manager. (Showing my age there)
AnythingMan - sounds English to me

Maybe I'm just showing my ignorance.

RosesAndHellebores · 18/03/2026 12:58

@Aislyn my grandparents were: Polish/Russian/German (Jewish), Russian (Orthodox) English/Irish (RC).

I've always said I'm European and I'm 65. My father just said he was from Germany, because he was.

Interestingly I married a man with a name similar to Cholomondly. Frequently, white British women comment "ooh that's a funny name, where's that from, is it Irish?". My maiden name (v Jewish) wasn't commented about nearly so much.

FunMustard · 18/03/2026 12:54

Needspaceforlego · 18/03/2026 12:46

Do you really think kids would know a Jewish surname from any other Eastern European surname?

Are you for real? Get lost.

nomas · 18/03/2026 12:54

toomanystupidquestions · 18/03/2026 08:31

That's the whole point. The kids asking the questions don't consider themselves British first and foremost. So they don't accept another "foreign looking" person identifying themselves as British. I - British born, Indian heritage, proud Brit - get this all the time from other people who look like me, but who don't identify as British the way I do; and who can't accept that my Indian heritage isn't my foremost concern and that I don't identify as "Indian", so persistently ask the "where are you really from" question until they get the answer they want.

So do Muslims keep to themselves or do they harass other people about their origins?

I really doubt droves of Muslims are asking about your Indian heritage, it’s not that interesting.

Most people are interested in their own heritage, not randoms.

cardibach · 18/03/2026 12:52

Manxexile · 17/03/2026 23:05

Yes.

I had to smile at the other poster suggesting this anti-semitism was coming from places like Reform and GB News.

It's sad that so many posters here seem (wilfully?) not to understand what your children have to go through at school,

Given the likely make up of your child's school I don't think it's in the least surprising...

You don’t think Reform having a leader who abused Jewish classmates at school suggests there’s at least some antisemitism from that direction?

Givenup2026 · 18/03/2026 12:50

Needspaceforlego · 18/03/2026 12:46

Do you really think kids would know a Jewish surname from any other Eastern European surname?

depending on their age, I think that’s more of a giveaway.

especially something like Shapiro / Cohen (or anything ending in “stein” and or “man”).

BonneMamanAbricot · 18/03/2026 12:50

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nomas · 18/03/2026 12:48

Aislyn · 18/03/2026 11:41

It is clear the above poster wants to derail, and their posting history is very telling about what kind of person they are.

I am not going to respond to any irrelevant comments about Farage or Reform. (This does mean I support them, it simply means they have no relevance to this particular thread)

No, I don’t want to derail but I’m also not going to leave people a clear field for Islamophobia to run unchecked.

The poster you aligned yourself with does support Farage and Reform, which I found strange, given Farage’s views on Jewish people.

Needspaceforlego · 18/03/2026 12:46

FunMustard · 18/03/2026 12:43

Will your surname not expose them also?

If not - could she say she's Greek?

Do you really think kids would know a Jewish surname from any other Eastern European surname?

FunMustard · 18/03/2026 12:44

Also just to add - I'm so sorry you're even having to ask this question.

FunMustard · 18/03/2026 12:43

Aislyn · 17/03/2026 17:35

No, it's not reliable, but some do look, like my kids, 'obviously' Jewish. In their case, dark curly hair, olivey skin. This together with naming an Eastern European country is a giveaway.

Will your surname not expose them also?

If not - could she say she's Greek?

EasternStandard · 18/03/2026 12:40

Aislyn · 18/03/2026 12:07

For the avoidance of any doubt, I can provide proof to MNHQ on request, regarding what my eldest has experienced. I am a poster with a long history here.

I think some of the posts, including the deleted one, are proving your point.

RainbowBagels · 18/03/2026 12:30

VegQueen · 18/03/2026 12:28

Yes exactly. My husband is Indian and when he’s asked where he is from (meaning what is his ethnicity/heritage, not where he grew up), it’s never white British people asking.

I'm Indian too, and it's also never White people asking. It's always Asians of every type. I don't know whether Black people get asked too, but Asians almost always ask it of other Asians.

VegQueen · 18/03/2026 12:28

toomanystupidquestions · 18/03/2026 08:31

That's the whole point. The kids asking the questions don't consider themselves British first and foremost. So they don't accept another "foreign looking" person identifying themselves as British. I - British born, Indian heritage, proud Brit - get this all the time from other people who look like me, but who don't identify as British the way I do; and who can't accept that my Indian heritage isn't my foremost concern and that I don't identify as "Indian", so persistently ask the "where are you really from" question until they get the answer they want.

Yes exactly. My husband is Indian and when he’s asked where he is from (meaning what is his ethnicity/heritage, not where he grew up), it’s never white British people asking.

Solost92 · 18/03/2026 12:21

Mexico? The appearance you describe I would say isn't uncommon there. The islands around America are quite curly haired and olive skinned aren't they?

I am surprised its such a big issue but I've realised I dont really understand the extent of racism. I wouldn't even know which countries you'd associate with Jews tbh

Velumental · 18/03/2026 12:20

I had no idea this was a thing. I do know as an Irish Catholic in Scotland with kids at a non denominational school that seems to come with an assumption I'm northern Irish protestant and lead to some people disclosing some views that raise my eyebrows.

I wouldn't have a child make things up, I'd change schools or move first but I suppose that's letting the bullies win. My kids are younger. I hope it gets better, thanks for educatig me

BlueJuniper94 · 18/03/2026 12:17

SpanThatWorld · 18/03/2026 11:35

What is this "left wing media"?

Most UK newspapers - including all the most widely read - are very right wing. The Guardian is liberal.

Social media is full of horrifically right wing bile.

The BBC and Guardian skew left and are free so have a wider audience

ParmaVioletTea · 18/03/2026 12:16

Whatkindoffuckeryisthiss · 18/03/2026 12:12

Wait. It’s anti-Semitic to believe that it is ‘ridiculous for someone to assume or
comment that you cannot be from London because you don’t look British’?

I’ve heard it all now.

You seemed to be doubting the OP's actual experience. You've clarified now that you did not mean that - so I withdraw my comment to you.

Whatkindoffuckeryisthiss · 18/03/2026 12:15

Aislyn · 18/03/2026 12:07

For the avoidance of any doubt, I can provide proof to MNHQ on request, regarding what my eldest has experienced. I am a poster with a long history here.

I do not doubt your (or your kids) experience at all. Bigotry, racism, and xenophobia disgust me.
When I said people are ridiculous for assuming you can’t be British due to how you look, I meant those people are ridiculous. I did not mean to imply this did not happen.
I am sorry you are experiencing such abhorrent behaviour, from individuals and from the school.

Whatkindoffuckeryisthiss · 18/03/2026 12:12

ParmaVioletTea · 18/03/2026 09:40

And your response is anti-Semitic, in your denial of an actual Jewish person's actual experience.

Wait. It’s anti-Semitic to believe that it is ‘ridiculous for someone to assume or
comment that you cannot be from London because you don’t look British’?

I’ve heard it all now.

BonneMamanAbricot · 18/03/2026 12:09

I just say Middle Eastern

Aislyn · 18/03/2026 12:07

For the avoidance of any doubt, I can provide proof to MNHQ on request, regarding what my eldest has experienced. I am a poster with a long history here.

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